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Go to Trader Joes
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I wonder if i can buy online. Does theirs not have sugr. T y
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Im not sure why you sent me there. All there was online was about ten warnings about salmonella in their almond butter
It was really hard to find it and see ingredients etc and there was no price or way to order
What i saw inimage was one with a little less sugar no added sugar or palm oil so it might be a little he as lthier but i canft even read the brand cuz pic is so bad
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- Q: could it be the almond butter that is keeping me fat?
No. Not if from a good fresh nut butter that is just of nuts.
Well, not like we might think but, yes, in another way IF from "old" oil yet, still not directly but by gumming up our bodies in other ways. Detail below.
I bet you have a store / market near you where you can get freshly ground peanut or almond butter. Or brands that are free of palm oil. -
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- Palm oil is a concern because it's often processed and becomes dangerous for us. Avoid it. And it destroys the trees and the way of life for those where this is obtained.
[Palm Date sugar is a different matter and that can be a help to us but I still have major concerns about the harvesting methods and how it leaves the communities where the trees are located. Be sure of the harvesting practices of your source.]
It's not good to have added to anything, really.
A good nut butter should be just from the fresh RAW nuts. Maybe a little sea salt.
The rice cake is far worse than any nut oil, IMO. They are like pure sugar the instant they hit our mouths (see how they crumble into powder, refined carbs they become in that process) and zero nutrients.
Still, it's best to avoid the sugar as it's often used to cover up the taste of old and rancid nuts.
There are some very good gluten free breads that, IMO, are far better taste and nutrients.
MARY'S GONE CRACKERS - makes excellent crackers that are gluten-free and excellent nutrition & great taste.
Back to the importance of getting enough good oils.
1. Be sure the nut oil is from RAW nuts, never from roasted. Check the date made and location.
Never, never, never skimp on good oils. Nuts are excellent for us - when they are still fresh.
A tiny bit of sugar - if from an organic source - is okay and will be balanced by the protein and oil to be more glycemic friendly to your body.
Now, most nut oils are NOT good for us when they are old or from roasted nuts. This is not that they "make us fat" but that they can destroy the lining of our blood vessels.
Nuts should never be roasted until ready to consume. The oil gets old and rancid and becomes a blood vessel destroyer.
Some nut butters are made, well, who knows when and have been stored, shipped, well, who knows where for how long. And who know just how hot they've gotten. Heat destroys the goodness of the oil. Fast. Very fast.
Make sure any nut butters are a fresh as possible and know the source - yes, where the nuts actually are grown -- or at least the region.
Buy only in GLASS jars (plastic leeched petroleum chemicals and other hormone disruptors).
It's easy to toast / roast nuts at home -- but open two windows first for a cross draft so the smoke alarm doesn't go off if there is a little smoke.
Many good food markets will have machines where you can grind your own peanuts and almonds - and you can see the shape of the nuts beforehand to know they are fresh.
Take your own clean jar, weigh it, mark the weight and subtract that at checkout - or use their plastic containers and transfer it as soon as you get home into a clean glass jar.
Keep in the fridge. Spoon (or "cut") out what you want a little while beforehand to warm up but keep the jar in the fridge.
You can add a little honey to it when it arrives home, stir it in then before it gets cold in fridge. -
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T y keebler. I had no idea rice cake was bad. All these years i thought it was a little protein and low calories and no sugar
Im pretty confused and discouraged. I was depending on almondbutter cuz i havent had a stove for six months to cook healthy bars and eggs and oatmeal that used to be breakfst staples
I dont know what to do. Its like trying to eat organic and then finding out someone lied and it isnt organic
I need to get house back together and stove hooked up i guess
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Trader Joes took off the shelf the infected organic almond butter.
They have perfectly good non-organic almond butter on their shelves..at a very good price, FYI.
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T y keebler. I had no idea rice cake was bad. All these years i thought it was a little protein and low calories and no sugar
Im pretty confused and discouraged. I was depending on almondbutter cuz i havent had a stove for six months to cook healthy bars and eggs and oatmeal that used to be breakfst staples
I dont know what to do. Its like trying to eat organic and then finding out someone lied and it isnt organic
I need to get house back together and stove hooked up i guess
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- You do not need to stop eating almond butter. Just buy a good one. Check the grocery stores that you go to -- likely one has a machine right there. Just talk to the manager about how they clean and maintain it -- and be sure the nut supply is covered - and kept fresh.
Best to avoid peanuts due to the outer molds.
Or find a good brand. There are several good brands.
Nuts need not be organic. I can't afford organic nuts. Most nuts can grow well without a lot of farm chemicals and the organic certification can be overly cautious for nuts. Just research the source, though, so you know a bit about where they come from.
And, yes, a burner is important. You may not need a full range, though.
We should not even eat the same foods for two days straight, some nutritionists say. Rotation of foods is very important.
Even with nuts, there are many kinds. One store near me carreis 80 varieties of nuts. Variety matters. But also don't overdo it. Nuts are high in glutamic acid so we don't want to overdo it, glutamic acid can be too excitatory for compromised nerve fibers.
And nuts won't supply all the protein we need, either. -
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- Wild Planet SARDINES can be excellent for those without a stove, or for travel. Good prices at VitaCost.com -
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Sugars are a much bigger cause of weight gain than fats. Keep your glycemic index low.
I also find that eating proteins with starches will add weight for me quickly.
Eat the almond butter with lettuce or something! I don't think a few rice cakes are going to make or break you, and neither will a little almond butter. I hope you can find one without sugar, but what you have is so little.
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So true Lymetoo (sugar)! I ate some sugar and gained 5 pounds. :)
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No its not the almond butter. I eat tons of it and I dropped close to 30 pounds. What else do you eat? You need to look at your diet closely.
There are many brands of almond butter without sugar. I sometimes buy the Whole Foods as they grind it right there in the store but when I can' t get there I have bought others that do not have any sugar.
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You can order plain, pure almond butter (no additives, such as sugar or palm oil) online from here (they have organic and non-organic, crunchy & creamy):
A favorite treat from when I could still eat nuts was almond butter on celery. It's also good on carrots & apples (green apples have the lowest amount of sugar). My family loves raw cucumbers with nut butter on the slices.
The nuts.com website has tons of various types of organic and non-organic nuts & seeds. I have no financial connection with them, just am a happy customer.
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I can eat it on celery and apple...i dont know why i never did that when i switched from peanut butter to almond butter
I ate peanut butter on celery and apples for years
I just thought the ruce cakes were low calorie, no sugar, no gluten, no dairy so they were a good choice for a fatty with ibs
I will never be able to eat sardines
When i am eating rught i eat
- no more than half cup rice or oatmeal and one slice of my spec ial multi grain yeast free bread a day for carbs -minimum of three servings of 4 oz protein a day(chic, haddock, scallips, shrimp, eggs, almond butter, quineoa, are what i usually have...sometimes turkey) -all the non starchy veggies i can eat esp greens -one cup coffee with skim mk...but that is hard...i like cream in it and almost aways have two cups Lots of water and tea -apples, berries and half a banana a day -lately i have been eating cottage cheese and tomatoes or apples -i have jarlesberg cheese when i can find it-its supposed to me naturally low fat
When i was strict with this years ago i lost 40 lbs in four months and then lost my gall bladder
I never felt hungry or hypoglycemic tho and that was helpful
Since may i havent been able to cook styff ahead like i usually do...or make soups like i used to or breakfast bars or my egg casserole...when i have food ready to warm up i do better cuz its easy
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And i stick to plan no matter how much pain
Above it sounds like i eat a lot of fruit but i dont think its too much...i need the half banana for cramps...sometimes i try to skip a few days but then i get restless legs or leg,foot or back spasms
I have an apple most days
I have heaping teaspoon blueberries a lot. Or i make stewed strawberrie . And pretend they are jam
Anyway...thanks for asking!
Ive been eating bad since may when house construction began. Everything is such a mess. So many ppl around. I often get takeout. I try tobe smrt about it...but its not like when i can prioritize cooking healthy
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- Sadly the marketing of rice cakes has been rather deceptive. There are far more enjoyable foods to consider - that will likely have you feeling better than the rice cake. I've been there. Who knew? Not I, not then.
I don't know if they are talking about the smaller rice cakes here but the amount matters not. A food is either processed, refined, high glycemic - or not. It's about how fast it's absorbed. It if turns to dust in your hands as rice cakes do, that's a very refined carbohydrate. Even the brown rice ones turn to powder.
Indulge in heartier fare than powdered puff rice. You deserve it.
. . . Rice cakes have a high carbohydrate content at 21 g per serving, and three cakes have a very high glycemic index of 100.
High-glycemic foods rapidly raise blood glucose levels and create a high insulin demand, which could lead to irreversible diabetes and cause cardiovascular disease, cancer, diabetes and weight gain . . .
. . . rice cakes are not a good choice for diabetics. . . . -
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Im not stupid about food and glycemic index. I cant believe i missed that
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Im not stupid about food and glycemic index. I cant believe i missed that
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- No, you are very smart about food and glycemic index. And you know what, we ALL missed it - for years and years. It's not just the marketing but, really, there is no good rice cake. They all taste like sawdust and have that consistency.
So, who would think they'd be so devious?
Some have a spray over them, too, to make them shiny. I think it's that spray coating that triggered me putting the dots together that there was something about them (even the best, most whole grain of the bunch) that just clobbered me.
It's only been in recent years that we've had "glycemic index" detail on foods. So, rice cakes already had their foot in the door and not being a luscious food we just did not suspect that they (neither the rice cakes NOR their marketers) could be deceiving.
It's only now that we are coming back to not viewing real food as the culprit. We don't have to settle for saw dust anymore. We can eat real food with density & depth. And then the curtain opens for what we (as a society) fell for along the way.
A baked potato is a far better nutritious choice over a rice cake. Even a delicious yam is. By far.
For paring with a good nut butter, as others mentioned above: apples are fantastic. Even celery has a fantastic flavor, IMO, too. That water crunch is very nice, too.
And a good gluten-free bread can work, too. Of course, it takes some work to find one that is worthy in taste, texture and nutrients -- and, like rice cakes, some GF breads are just bad news for blood sugar health.
Happy Camper in Oregon makes some excellent ones. Trouble I find (other than required a separate, dedicated GF toaster for those who share household) is that GF bread often falls apart in a toaster.
I rather just warm a slice on a plate with a pan cover (to keep the crust moist) for a few minutes in a warm oven. To toast, it can just be placed on the rack - toaster oven best.
Let the nut butter melt a bit on the side before spreading.
For a wonderful side dish to a good protein and lots of vegetables -- in a Thai or Indian meal, mix a good nut butter with about 1/2 cup BLACK FORBIDDEN RICE - or WILD rice, or BHUTANESE RED RICE (Lotus Foods is one good brand but also check out the BULK dept. of your own market) . . . and the same spices of a pad thai.
Also good for a hearty breakfast dish. These kinds of rice have an excellent glycemic index (far better than any noodles, even if GF) and are rich in nutrients. -
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When i have an oven i make healthy bars for breakfast and egg casserole with many veggies. I need something really easy for breakfast cuz im hypoglycemic, have horrible pain when wake up and hands are worst
I was using rice cake so i didnt eat bought muffins or bagels
I would have gotten more creative if i knew how bad rice cake was. It was just easy way to get protein in. I will have to cut pple and celery ahead of time...i have never found a healthy gluten free bread...but i cant walk in stores unless i know exactly what i want is there...no more trying out gluten free bread for me. It was one of the most processed food s i ever found
Thx for all your help. I have to stop the constructuon soon or i will die...so i wil l get back to cooking
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About the skim milk / cream ............. I've heard that whole milk is better for us than skim milk.
The fat (cream) is what slows the absorption of sugars. And when they take the cream out of the milk, what is left is the sugary part.
Back in the old days the farmers skimmed the cream off the milk and fed the skimmed milk to his pigs to fatten them!
So WHY are they telling us to drink skim milk???
Our family is using butter freely for years.
We are drinking whole milk - fresh, raw, right off the farm.
Keebler, I'll let the rice cakes in the store from now on.
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I don't think a few rice cakes are going to make or break you, and neither will a little almond butter. I hope you can find one without sugar, but what you have is so little.
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