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Jessiep
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Can someone explain this to me? Why would I after 7 weeks of bicillin suddenly feel worse than I have the entire time? Is this a herx? Why? I mean why would I herx now?
I just don't get it

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It is my understanding that it takes about 2 months for the bicillin injections to reach their full effectiveness in the body.

So, I think what is happening is probably typical.

Do a lot of detoxifying. Drink lots and lots of water and put fresh squeezed lemons in it. Use Alka Seltzer Gold a few times per day with lemon, etc.


From page 19 of Burrascano:

"Benzathine penicillin- Surprisingly effective IM alternative to oral therapy. May need to begin at lower doses as strong, prolonged (6 or more week) Herxheimer-like reactions have been observed."

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Ok thx. [Frown]
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Here are some detox tips from Dr. H of NY:

Herxheimer reaction (from 2010 Lyme Conference, Dr. H):

Take-home message: DETOXIFY YOUR LYME PATIENTS!

It does NOT matter what antibiotic you give people, they will NOT get better without detoxification

For Herxheimer reactions: 2 Alka-Selzer Gold (no aluminum) in 8 ounces of water with lemon or lime followed by 6-8 capsules of glutathione or 1500 mg of oral liposomal glutathione.

70% will feel better in hours

On the topic of water: Dilution is the solution to pollution. This suggests that in order to help our bodies detoxify, we must drink more water

http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/216-ilads-2010-conference-takeaways


AND, from a patient of his in Sept. 2013:


Flare protocol in a nutshell:

Try 1st:
--Burbur, 10 drops every 10 minutes for 2-3 hours or 10 days until flare resolves
--Parsley (same as burbur)
--Lemon/lime in H2O sipped through straw 4x/day
--Alkaseltzer gold OTC or sodium bicarb 4x/day

If above doesn't help, add:

Oral glutathione (Essential Pro) 6-8 caps at once, repeat as needed, up to 3x/day

If no help w/above steps, try:
--Pekana drainage 15 drops of each bottle 3x/day
--Sydetox 15 drops 2x/day
--LDN, as prescribed at bedtime

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