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For those of you who suffer(ed) from localized or systemic candidas, how long did it take you to get rid of it?
I am 3 months off of all abx and continue to treat yeast w/ naturals, nystatin and pulsing diflucan and of course pro.'s.
Everytime I rotate my herbs or increase the nystatin and/or diflucan I get a very noticeable herx. My diet is 75% clean but last night had half of a desert and ended up w/ symptoms this morning.
I would have thought by month 3 off of abx. w/ continued yeast treatment I would be further along by now! So how long did it take you to get yeast in check? Thanks!
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2 years.
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I've been fighting it for decades. It goes, but it keeps coming back.
I find it much more difficult to fight than borrelia and lyme. Lyme took me 'only' 4 years to get rid of.
Herxes are still horrible with candida. I'm now trying to rebuild the flora, after years of chelation. Still doing the KPU (which chelates on its own), and taking natural probiotics.
For me, candida comes just in winter, when the blood circulates worse and low body temperature ruins my immune system... It is better, as before I had it during autumn and spring too. I was only candida free in summer.
I used Sanum homeopathics for many years. Now, I can't find the right product anymore, but Sanum worked well for many years, really.
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I think that, for many with Lyme, the battle against candida/ yeast is ongoing, as it tends to overgrow in those whose immune systems have become compromised.
Also it has a synergistic relationship with metals, I find, so tends to overgrow when you are trying to get mercury or lead out of the system.
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Not a problem for me. I discontinued abx a few months ago.
I took Thorne sf722 for a month and did the GI stuff in here (starts on page 36). There's a yeast chapter (page 62). HMF replete is very good and helped me in the past.
I'm doing great (no candida, white tongue or any of that) and am not taking probiotics anymore.
I have a pretty healthy diet, but basically eat whatever I want (some bread and a candy once and a while)
I think lavela also helps (it's for anxiety, but has anti-yeast properties). I take 1 a day. It's lavender oil.
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I treated for close to 10 years off and on w/ abx.s and have been off of abx.s for close to a year now. Still struggle w/ yeast if I slip off my diet or stop my anti-fungals.
Give Byron White A-FNG a try..
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I kinda think it's ongoing, since we have compromised immune systems, and it's in the gut too, along with our immune system.
When I first started on the noncandida diet, I was able to get over sugar cravings in 10 days. I think that was the hard part. Then I could handle the noncandida diet ok.
My candida-treating doc said I could cheat once a week if it was a small cheat and didn't pull me back into sugar/bread eating. So, we have to know whether we're strong enough to handle and enjoy a small cheat once in awhile or not.
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One other thing: if you choose to use herbal anti-fungals to help you get rid rid of candida/systemic yeast, I would advise you to buy several different ones and use each one for about two weeks. That way you should be able to use those herbs over a longer period without them losing effectiveness.
I wish I had known this when I first started treating candida 11 years ago.
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I've been battling bad candida for 3 years and nothing touches it.
I've done diet, cleanses, rotations of all of the normal RX antifungals, herbals I even sent away for this dog flea powder(Lufeneron)that claims to get rid of it, nothing.
I just read a post on Lyme Disease Awareness Facebook page where a commenter said he had trouble with the RX antifungals and his doctor put him on compounded Amphoteracin B. Here's his comment:
"I've tried just about everything out there when I had bad candida during treatments.
I couldn't take meds like diflucan, fluconazol, or nystatin. I had bad reactions to all of them.
Then our doc had me try compounded Amphoteracin B from a local compounding pharmacy and it... was... amazing!
I had no weird side effects, no extra misery, but the candida started losing the fight immediately.
I had it bad. High levels in my blood and everything. Felt like Candida was coming out of my pores before I started the Ampho! I felt gross!
From what I've read online, IV ampho can be a bit brutal, but compounded capsules of it worked great!
I really had no problems at all so long as I detoxed properly and flushed all the dying candida out of me.
I think it only took two rounds of ampho to get rid of it completely and it stayed away for a long time after that.
Its worth a try if your really having a lot of trouble getting rid of it."
I'm going to question my doctor about it, not very hopeful as she's a holistic doctor and rarely prescribes RX, but we'll see.
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Interesting on the Ampho B- it isn't suppose to be as harsh as Diflucan, Keto, Spornox, and those 3, by the way, hit different strains, so I was told,
so perhaps trying one if at whit's end.
I went back to no grains the last 3-4 days (always been gluten free, but added GF grains back around gall bladder surgery)
anyway, I feel better Paleo (no grains) and have had yeast die off (only on Enhansa curcumin 2x a day, probiotic, vitamins)
I really hate yeast lurking/ waiting- because if I start with the desserts, then I start craving/ wanting every night- it's the one infection that wants to be fed (for me).
Really nice when past that and crave free. Feel crave free now. Let's see if I can make it thru Christmas. At least being gluten free/ dairy free, hardly anyone's got something sweet for me!
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I guess different candidas, different treatments. Rotating killers is a good way to go. And never forget to clean herxes with binders.
I agree that there is some synergistic relation between candida and heavy metals. for me it is CLEAR that every time I succeed in flushing some heavy metals off, I will almost certainly have some candida activated somewhere.
for people who think candida means white tongue or GI symptoms, I swear, that you can have barely any symptom and be totally dominated by candida infections.
The proof is that after taking the right anti candida killer, and getting, for example, a big cleaning in your intestines. It happened to me often. It was not the wrong remedy nor a reaction to the remedy (as I used mostly homeopathic nosodes to kill candida).
the violent reaction was a big cleaning of candida.
Then I realized that I got more energy, less fog, I slept better, or stuff like that.
You may think you got no cadida symptom, then it means you are candida free.
But when you get it killed, and herxes cleared with good and enough binders, and you find that your health gets better in general, you get convinced you got an infection before, without clear symptoms!
I hope you guys understand what I mean by that. A bit like lyme, after taking killers and seeing your symptoms get worse (only then you realize that you got borrelia in all those joints you thought were healthy before the killer).
After the years fighting any chronic disease, everyone is confronted with candida or fungi, on and off. And also you start concentrating on building (your flora) than only on killing and cleaning herxes.
As I said, my war lasts more than 2 decades now, but I clearly improved. But such improvement came only with a clear intention to treat candida. It does not come by itself...
And most people end up concentrating on building the flora in the end, as you get totally convinced that using only killers will never get you out fighting chronic candida.
Another thing to look into (for both lyme and candida) is low body temperature. Such infections (and many more)thrive in low body temperature (because enzymes do not work well).
So another way to fight it is trying to solve that temperature problem that most chronic infection patients have.
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