I know I have read that ticks can transmit Lyme immediately. Does anyone have clear information debunking the 48 hour myth?
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- You say you "have read that ticks can transmit Lyme immediately."
Believe what you read. I'm not sure of the sources but if you list those, then we don't have to hunt them down, too. Or at least we would know what body of research you've already got so as not to have to retrace all those steps.
I've seen that enough times in reputable articles, heard in conference presentations, and had on LLMD tell me face to face that he saw someone develop the classic lyme bullseye within 20 minutes of a mosquito bite at a picnic he attended.
That was "clear information" to me. Really all I needed. As first hand as it gets.
I have read & trust detail (and heard in a video presentation by an excellent lyme researcher) that within 12 hours of a bite, lyme can infect the central nervous system, although some accounts suggest perhaps faster than that.
Some say that the instant there is the breakage of skin & introduction into the host's blood, it's pretty clear that is all it takes to set it in motion. -
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This is not about my belief, this is about documentation. I am looking for studies/articles.
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- If you post what you've seen so far, that will save lots and time and energy for anyone who might be willing to help you out here, so they don't have to retrace.
If you have not yet studied her work, you might start with the work of Eva Sapi. -
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Keebler, I don't have any sources written down. That's the point of my request.
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- It's hard to know when someone says they've read something if it's from a direct source or social media. So, then, Eva Sapi is the place I'd begin.
I had a file with some collected excerpts - titled: "BITE - 12 hours CNS infected" and recall that being in a good article - but I can't open my file -- or rather it is all in some kind of code -- messed up when my last computer crashed. Many of my file notes were just lost.
Really, though, it just makes sense that the instant there is blood contact with ANY tick part, infection can be set on its way if the tick is infected.
Like a needle prick for other infections, it's just the prick & blood contact that lights the match. No one says an infected needle needs to remain in someone's arm so many hours.
Only the very rare nymph tick which has been born with lyme & has never had a blood meal yet but carries lyme / TBD in its gut - well, maybe only then might their mouth be clean and it take time to spew out their belly after attachment.
But most ticks who bite have bitten before. It's out of the gate to stay.
If the tick has had any previous blood meal their mouth parts can be loaded with spirochetes & other microbes - all those are not going to be locked away in its gut. Spirochetes do not like to stay locked away, anywhere, it's just not in their nature. -
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