Maya12
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I am currently treating babs and would like to know what others have experienced as herx sx?
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I am feeling very strange and surreal and derealized and depersonalized.
Also heart racing a bit, chills, weak, almost delerious. Chest pain and shortness of breath.
Just had an ozone yesterday.
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Also have head pressure and pain and also pain in my temples.
Is this all normal for a babs herx?
I know it is babs because I saw tones of babs on the live cell yesterday when I saw my llnd.
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I feel like I am not getting enough oxygen to my brain and it feels like my brain is swollen and I almost feel like I could black out
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Also having lots of anxiety right now
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Please help, I am so scared
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The head pressure is so bad it feels like my brain is going to explode
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I don't do well with ozone treatments. Those sound like the symptoms I had BEFORE I had babs and did an ozone treamtment.
I'm sorry you're going through this.
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Maya12
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I can barely turn my head and I feel like I am having absence seizures or something
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Those would be Babs' Herx symptoms for me. You are super inflamed.
Do your detox. Hydrate. Ice packs on the head help with brain swelling. Maybe you need an OTC antiinflammatory to get through the day. Two Advils on my worst days make a ton of difference.
Are you doing IV ozone? Can you cut back a little? Maybe this is too much Herxing for you.
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Hey boxer so these sx are all normal for a babs herx?
I am also sweating and have a bit of a fever.
This really sucks and is practically intolerable.
I feel like I need to be at the hospital.
I also feel like I am going parylized.
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When I began treating babs, I got weekly flares like clockwork. My lyme doc called them "flares," not herxes. He said that babs has a 7-day cycle and a 14-day cycle. I eventually experienced them both.
When the flare would come, all I would do is lay. I didn't talk, move, eat, drink, go to the bathroom, etc. I drifted in and out of consciousness.
And all during the flare I had an overwhelming sense of DOOM. I thought things like, "This is how I will always feel. This will never go away., etc."
After the first episode (which lasted 48 hours and then lifted), you would think that I could have had a better mental outlook, but no. Each time I had a flare, I thought the same way.
Telling myself that the flares always lift after 48 hours (which they did--like clockwork) didn't work at all.
When I reported these flares at my next monthly lyme doc appt (I had had 4 of them by then), he added the herb artimesinin to my protocol.
This worked like a miracle! He had me start the art right before the flare was scheduled to hit and to continue taking it until the flare lifted. So, I took it from Friday morning until Sunday night each week.
That next weekend, my flare was very mild and only lasted 6 hours. It was an overwhelming need to go to sleep.
Each week the flares got less and less. Finally, they switched to every other week (14 day cycle). We knew when babs was gone when I no longer got any sign of a flare ever.
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Maya12
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To be honest sonatina, I appreciate your help but I have been fighting this disease for 2 years and I do herx from babs tx and even my Lyme doc told me you will herx from ALL infections.
The ozone is done in a very sterile way.
I also tried abx and they did not work. I have no other options.
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Maya12
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Hey tf, did you get physical sx with your flares as well.
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Maya, notice where I said "I didn't talk, move, eat, drink, go to the bathroom, etc. I drifted in and out of consciousness."
This was like you saying you feel like you are becoming paralyzed.
I felt so awful and out of it that I became like a zombie, just laying there. I COULDN'T talk, move etc.
I drifted in and out of consciousness.
It was an unbelievable 48 hours every weekend.
My husband could tell when it lifted on Sunday night. I would get up, go to the bathroom, go in the kitchen and look in the fridge, drink water, finally start talking, etc.
I would become normal again!
I treated babs last. So, I had already gotten rid of lyme and bartonella. When I wasn't in a babs flare, I felt like a normal person.
So, the flares were as far from normal as you can be--both physically and mentally.
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Maya12
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Thanks for telling me this tf.
I had my blood checked with live cell yesterday and now babs is def the dominant infection.
So I must be hitting this but boy is it ever a horrible herx. My head feels so strange
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Hi Maya, I had very similar symptoms when I treated Babesia a few years ago with Mepron and Art. I recently started the Nutramedix herbal Enula thinking I still have some babs active.
My recent herxes are much less but are: blurred vision very tired/fatigued neck stiffness rocking/dizzy shortness of breath/air hunger slightly elevated heart rate/feel my pulse weakness
Sounds a lot like you. My advice is to go slow and only do the dosage that you can tolerate. Obviously...detox. Good luck.
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Maya12
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Thanks jammers, I appreciate you sharing your sx with me.
I am wondering has anyone else also had severe anxiety with babs?
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I didn't have anxiety with babs, just chest pressure, balance issues and headaches.
I just got better and better with babs treatment. I don't think it's necessary for everyone to have a massive herx to get better.
Don't mistake an adverse reaction for a herx.
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