droid1226
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Besides low carb & no sugar spikes(zero carbs before bed) being law in Dr B's protocol, here's a pretty convincing case for low carb/high fat for neuro,immune,heart health.
There's study after study of HIGH fat & LOW carbohydrate beneficial for brain & heart function. Despite what we've been told in the 80s & 90s.
Carbs are terrible for yeast as well as so many other things.
If weight is an issue, a week or 2 on atkins(low carb ketosis) will change that as lbs fall off.
I'm posting this because I've met so many people that are so sick who refuse to go low carb, mostly because they want the energy & already feel restricted. But it's vital considering Dr H (hypoglycemic) & Dr B both say it's necessary.
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Zero carb was the best thing i ever did. For me it meant i was finally able to gain weight instead of losing it. I was very malnourished and severly underweight on my previous carb diet.
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I always feel better eating low carb. Way better.
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Keebler
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- Carbohydrates get such a bad rap, just as fat before it. Both are excellent - if our selection & treatment is wise.
Vegetables are carbohydrates. We need lots of vegetables, the excellent complex carbohydrates that help us is no many ways. Our cells require their nutrients and our colon requires their fiber. A high carbohydrate diet is actually what most vegetarians employ. But - with COMPLEX carbs.
One need not be vegetarian to also gain much good from a plant focused food plan, though, even if clean fish, meats are utilized. Vegetables should cover 3/4 of our plate at meal times (even breakfast).
Therefore, we need to be careful about the definition of "low" carb when usually we mean reduced processed foods / refined carbs, simple sugars (and flours as the finer the grind of any food, the more like sugar it becomes). We can do well, very well without these. -
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droid1226
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For sure, in the video he puts much more of an empasis on high fat for the brain but it results in low carb. The name of his book is Grain Brain & it's had amazing results.
As far as lyme is concerned, Dr H says low to no carbs.
Dr. B says very low & zero at night.
Zero processed sugars.
I think it's a good experiment as I continue to test myself out like a lab rat. When I go no carb, my brain fog is gone but I'm exhausted. When I do higher carb, I'm nauseaous, bloated, and foggy-but I have more energy.
I guess when you add it all up, everyone is different but you can come to the conclusion that low complex carb is best, for others-low to no carb.
This is important to me because I see so many that are sick, that straight up ignore diet.....especially carbohydrates(probably because it's so hard to do) When it's clearly spelled out in the best protocols with lyme at least, to not eat them.
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- Saying "no" to the entire range of carbohydrates is just too severe for most (and most likely to cause exhaustion for good reason). Also keep in mind that the colon simply cannot work without complex carbohydrates.
Nutritional deficiencies are bound to arise without this category and a buildup of toxins as vegetables, plant materials, are what provide antioxidants and fiber, essential to being able to properly manage oxidation / metabolic waste / toxins.
Three food groups: carbohydrates; protein; fat. We need some of each. For good reasons.
A war on vegetables and is just ridiculous for my body, I know that. I really need a range of foods grown from the earth.
IMO, the "Grain Brain" idea has some good points (and gluten containing grains are an issue for many) but to cut out all grains, or grain like plants seems very severe. Many people may not do well with that. I sure did not. I kept passing out.
In addition to vegetables, my body needs some of the non-gluten yet low glycemic whole grain-like plants to help the other foods have a fuller glycemic longevity - and for fuller fiber, etc.
Black, Red, and especially WILD rice (actually a grass - and so excellent for colon health, by the way). And these are excellent on the glycemic index, so good and stable, in fact that they are recommended even for diabetic diets - in moderation of course and along with a full balanced meal.
The GLYCEMIC INDEX seems a much better guide for my body [while continuing to be gluten-free and even free of all processed foods]. -
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I've heard this, but I just don't do well without carbs.
I eat tons of vegetables. I eat quinoa and wild rice. I eat either corn or gluten-free oats usually once or twice a week. I eat apples, blackberries, blueberries, and strawberries. I eat meat, eggs or fish usually once per day or less. I get lots of fats with avocado, olive oil, coconut oil, butter.
This is what works for me. Compared to *most* people, it's lower carbs, but it's certainly not "low" or "no" carb. The bulk of my diet is fruits and vegetables.
It's probably different for everyone. I never thought much of the blood type diet, but I am finding I can easily eat vegetarian or even vegan and am type A, but the rest of my family are all type O and get tired without meat just like I get tired without carbs.
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Heres a little of what I found out the hard way. Tortured by this yeast thing I decided to do the no carb thing.
I did as low carb as someone could for two years.
My results were no improvement,constipation and I ended up with high cholesterol,tested three weeks ago ,cholesterol 300.
Well my cholesterol was 300 and I wasn't going to go on statins so I was forced into making a change.
I started eating some complex carbs and cut out almost all meat and saturated fats.
I was worried the carbs were going to send me into a racing wired fit.
Pleasantly to may surprise I have been a little better since I have switched the diet.
I think the big difference is this diet along with added magnesium is clearing my bowels out much better than the low carb diet.
Im definitely for watching how many carbs you eat and what kind but I know for me its just as important to make sure you are really having bowel movements
Trust me ,I doubt anyone did the low carb thing as strict as I did and for as long. It didn't get me anywhere but high cholesterol and constipation.
I also find I am tolerating antifungals better since I go to the bathroom more.
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droid1226
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I did it as hard Joe. Lol. There were 2 yrs where I'd literally freak out if I went to 21 carbs cause 20 was always my daily limit. It's so weird too because when I did it in my early 20's, ketosis kicked in quick & stomach problems disappeared. In my 30's, it didn't help me as far as symptom wise, but I keep going back to it for some reason. I know there's something to it.
Also Joe mentions magnesium. I've done way too much, just a little, right inbetween, all types of mag......and it doesn't affecct my bowels so I don't think I'm absorbing it or an infection is using it. Idk(babs?)
Six, that's great to hear you say that because you are better & proof that you don't need to go on low carb.
Keebler, I couldn't agree more. My colon literally stops with no carbs which really goes against everything I try to open up detox pathways.
I have a problem with vegetables & fiber. My body doesn't like fiber. I swell up and cannot pass gas.
I just think it's something that everyone should try just because a select few have incredible success for whatever reason.
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I have always been thin. If I don't work my muscles consistently (light weights, walk hills) it looks like ill thin.
Having said that, my digestive system took a hit with Lyme/ Bart/ parasites/ yeast.
100% gluten free, then went dairy free. Don't miss it. My bad gallbladder, and now no gallbladder, can't eat Paleo high fat only anymore.
My brain definitely needs good fats. Mood and brain better with good fat, but fine line w/ no gallbladder.
I also need carbs. I exercise, get too fatigued without, and yes, bowels need carbs. And sometimes, I really need and have to have a nut butter sandwich on Udi's (GF) bread.
And coconut ice cream. I did very low carb/ 100% Paleo for a long time. Then my gallbladder finally gave out. So now I eat more GF carbs.
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I was put on a very low carb diet a few years back. I mean, so low that I was very limited on the veggies I could even eat. Basically, the "nutritionist" (not a real degreed nutritionist) told me to eat mostly animal protein and fat.
I was constipated, I could not sleep, I felt worse, not better.
I have heard that low carb for women is not a great idea because we make so many hormones. I find that the second half of the month, my body asks for more carbs and I gladly give my body the carbs it needs.
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When I say "low carb" .. I mean low STARCHES. Green vegetables are fine. I stay away from starches in order to feel better.
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Hi there,
This is interesting, TxCoord and I went modified low carb' almost a year ago now.
I get a bit more carbs than he does,but we are both off the diabetic meds,and both losing weight,slowly and healthfully.
TxC' has lost around 60 lbs, in about a year,and I have lost 40 lbs. I do get to have apples,and berries from time to time, but I monitor and limit anything starchy carb' very carefully.
Right now, finding foods that don't cause or worsen Histamine intolerance, are my main frustration.
Thanks for posting this <<<<< droid' >>>>>,
Jus' Silverwolfi
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Fructose is REALLY bad.
Foods and histamine = H2 receptors.
Copper dependent DAO...it normally soars, I mean SOARS, during pregnancy - to protect the fetus from excess histamine in foods.
A histamine free diet is nearly impossible. A LOT of foods are high in histamine.
Silverwolf...look very closely at Swanson's berberine + curcumin supplement. It is not expensive and IMO, maybe worth its weight in gold.
Read about estrogen-histamine.
Never mind, I'll help:
"least 1% of the population, and 80% of those affected are (ahem)…middle-aged.
Women seem to comprise the majority of people who complain of histamine intolerance.
This may be because estrogen and histamine reinforce each other—histamine can increase estrogen levels and vice versa, which may explain why histamine intolerance is associated with pre-menstrual cramps and menstrual migraine.
Even more fascinating is that pregnant women may experience relief from food sensitivities during pregnancy because the placenta secretes very high amounts of diamine oxidase, or DAO, the enzyme that destroys histamine.
Yes, DAO is available.
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Hi<<<<< droid' and everyone on the thread >>>>>,
And Thanks for the info' link Marnie, with TxC's help, as I am not a techy type person, we moved your Hisatamine intolerance link onto my Allergy/Histamine intolerance thread.
Hopefully more Allergy/HIT folks will see it there and be helped.
Back to the low carb' dietary lifestyle, if it is modified somewhat, it may benefit many folk,with various forms of sugar disease. I know it helped us a lot. I have to be more watchful what types of fats I eat, then TxCoord does.
But being able to go off of the lab created diabetic meds,that were damaging my liver is a huge blessing for me.
I do take a berberine supplement on a daily basis,as well as a Turmeric/ Resveratrol blend, to address what Marnie mentioned.
Hopefully more folk will chime in on what does and does not work for them w/ diet,and low carb', Lyme and it's co-infections are so individualistic for all of us.
Thanks again for putting this info' up Droid'!!!
Jus' Silverwolfi
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: When I say "low carb" .. I mean low STARCHES. Green vegetables are fine. I stay away from starches in order to feel better.
Yes, I understood this. I have to have some starches for energy or I don't do well. If I go a few days without anything starchy, I lose energy.
That being said, I don't eat tons of starches. A bowl of oatmeal (topped with either apples or blueberries, ground flax, chia, mulberries, and goji berries, yum!). A serving of quinoa. Corn tortillas for tacos. Some organic corn chips with guacamole. And not every day.
Surprise, I also eat coconut ice cream. Yum!
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