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lymeonade2015
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I'm trying to decide between either PICC line or getting a butterfly needle every day. I'm leaning toward needle because I'm really worried about the vein problems with PICC and it seems like they are common.

For needles in general - What happens to you vein after the needle? Why doesn't it leak? Does it close immediately? Will taking a blood thinner like serrapeptase prevent the vein from healing and cause it to leak?

For vein health - How many days do you think I can hit the vein before it becomes damaged? I would have 2 IV's so one needle per arm per day. I might do this for 30 days.

Thanks!

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I just sent a reply and it did not post. Testing here. Might try later.

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Lymetoo
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I would hate getting stuck every single day!

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susank
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I will try again.

Did you see my post of a few weeks ago in regards to Saline Locks and Butterfly needles?

You are considering starting IV's on yourself with a Butterfly? Do you know how to do this?

Have you had IV infusions before of anything?

How good are your veins?

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Pos.Bb culture 2012
Labcorp - no bands ever
Igenex - Neg. 4 times
With overall bands:
IGM 18,28,41,66 IND: 23-25,34,39
IGG 41,58 IND: 39
Bart H IGG 40

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Littlesprout
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Puncturing the vein daily will cause scars I would think
My veins are crappy to begin w so doing something being daily I would be worried.

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lymeonade2015
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My doctor said I appear to have good veins. I wouldn't be doing the needles a nurse / practitioner would. Thanks,
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It would be better to leave the peripheral line in at least 3 days.

I've read that research is showing that it might be better to leave the lines in longer if there are no signs of infection, inflammation, or infiltration.

So hospitals are now leaving adult peripheral lines in for up to 5- 7days. Something to consider and discuss with your medical provider.

Also, if you don't like the idea of a PICC, you might like a Midline? It is not considered a central line as the tip ends near the middle of your arm pit.

Besides trauma to the vein, you risk infection by attempting at least 2 new IVs every day. And what if you don't get those 2 started easily with the first try? You may end up with numerous pokes daily.

You can get one Midline and use a Bifuse connection (if the meds are compatible) and run both IVs at the same time each day. Then you are done. And you can do this at home!!!

I agree with you that a PICC is a serious consideration with many potential risks (blood clots, sepsis, heart arrhythmia...). If considering long term IV, as in a year of treatment, then a PICC may be something to consider as Midline do not last as long in general. PICCs can last over a year if cared for well.

Lots to think about! Good luck!

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Bicillin shots come to mind.

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