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Semia
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I just ordered Kratom to hopefully help my pain and insomnia. Anyone notice benefits from this?? Thanks.
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This past week, an article about how Kratom can be addictive was in the New York Times. I did not read it but saw the headline many times over several days. you might want to check on that.
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To help with pain, be sure magnesium is on board. Liver support, too, can help decrease pain.

And going gluten free helped ease pain at least 50% in my whole body. If you've not yet tried that, you might. Many LLMDs strongly suggest a gluten free diet so as to help ease inflammation (that is often a trigger for pain).


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Topic: MAGNESIUM - Informational Links set


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too
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I prefer the natural choices over Rx as, often, Rx are so hard on the liver: you might check out the CORYDALIS post here:

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Topic: Looking for long term pain management
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Just went to read that article and the headline and premise, I think, are not quite balanced.

The examples they use are of those who have been addicted to various rough drugs who then move to kratom. IMO, they paint this with too broad a brush, yet, seizures are mentioned (again, there are multiple variables so it may not have been teh only consideration) yet it might be good to look at the science section of the patient advocacy group here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/us/kratom-an-addicts-alternative-is-found-to-be-addictive-itself.html?_r=0

Kratom . . . Alternative . . . Is Found to Be Addictive Itself

By Alan Schwarz - The New York Times - Jan. 2, 2016

Excerpts:

. . . Kratom has been linked to seizures and respiratory depression, but deaths related to it appear rare. . . .

. . . Susan Ash of Norfolk, Va., said she had taken kratom during treatment for dependence on prescription painkillers, and now uses a small amount daily for chronic pain and depression.

Last year, she founded the American Kratom Association, a consumer group of more than 2,000 members that lobbies against state bills to ban the substance. . . .

[full article at link above]


http://www.americankratom.org

American Kratom Association - many educational links here
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There have been a few threads in the past about kratom. You can search in the subject line of both general and medical forums to find those.

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Be sure to talk with your LLMD about this as they would need to know everything you take. If possible, you might also consult a naturopathic doctor - as they have at least four years of medical education in this specialty -

and they would know if this is the right thing for your body at this point in time - or what else might be better.

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How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc. . . .
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http://www.naturopathic.org/

Association of Naturopathic Physicians (AANP) is the national professional society representing licensed naturopathic physicians.


http://www.naturopathic.org/AF_MemberDirectory.asp?version=2

Find a ND in your area

[Of course, for anyone with lyme, a LL ND is best. Be sure to ask at your area support groups, etc. And you can inquire once you have some names in NJ who might have completed the ILADS physician training, etc.]
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Looking at your posting history, two weeks ago you posted that you take Klonopin (Clonazepam) - (and it's long longer working for you).

There could be some interactions between klonopin and kratom (or between ANY Rx or OTC, or supplement).

It seems wise to be off of klonopin for at least a full week or longer before starting kratom. Not just to get it out of your system but to let your brain chemistry get to a "normal" you before introducing anything that can alter that.

And, it's never a good idea to just stop taking any drug that is an anti-seizure drug, even if you take it for other reasons. So, don't just stop it. There would be a very precise way to slowly titrate down. So, I do hope your MD or a LL ND can help you with this.

Good luck.
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