I suffer of chronic lyme, babesia and bartonella, and I am being treated with antibiotics.
I would like to ask a question that is bothering me. Are there any serious risks of having a baby in a situation when a male suffers of chronic Lyme & coinfections and a female is healthy?
I am sure there are many men on this board who decided to be Dads. May I ask - how are your kids doing? I would be very grateful if anyone could share your thoughts.
Many thanks to all of you.
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bluelyme
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Welcome lyme patient 300 ,how long have you been treating and what abx are you currently on now? My three year old is not yet symptomatic.still praying ..just found lyme in october last year ..likely had it for 12...it is sexually transmissible...long story but baby momma likely has it and is mostly symtom free . Old gf is not afraid to kiss but likely it is in saliva as microscopy thread lymed2010 has shown spiros in mouth swab ...my llmd did say like 80% chance ok if mother has it and is on abx ...it would be a risk for both ..i just saw spirochete come out of my rbc so it can be inside sperm too
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bcb1200
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I had 2 more kids after being diagnosed in 2010. Both are healthy and normal.
My wife also had lyme before she was pregnant with one of them and treated with an LLMD during pregnancy (was on 2 antibiotics for the duration for the pregnancy.)
For each kid, we had the cord tested for lyme/bart/babs and both were negative. Note we got the cord tested because my wife has a history of lyme...not because of my lyme and co.
I think the risk is extremely extremely extremely low. It is a much bigger problem if the Mom has lyme.
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Hello and thank you for your responses. This is great to hear that your children are doing well.
I started antibiotic treatment almost 3 years ago. The results are moderate, I would say. There were months when I was doing 40-50% better and there are months, like for example now, that I am doing worse. I can only work part-time job.
Currently I am on Doxycycline, Biaxin and Bactrim DS. At some point I think I will also try alternative approach if I hit long plateau with antibiotics.
If anybody else can join this thread, please write. Thanks a lot!
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TF
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Since you have been in treatment for 3 years without any great results, I suggest you consider looking for a better lyme specialist.
Have you read the Burrascano Lyme Treatment Guidelines? Once I did that, I dropped my lousy lyme doctor (wasted 2 years with him) and switched to a Burrascano-type doctor. Then, I got well, meaning cured.
If you give us your location, we can give you some names of docs who are helping people.
You are not on flagyl (metronidazole) or tindamax which are the 2 cyst-busting meds. I didn't get rid of lyme until I switched to a doc who added this to my protocol.
Read in Burrascano that this needs to be done.
I got rid of lyme, babs, and bart over 10 years ago now and I have the same life I had before lyme disease. At least 5 of my friends got the same result when they switched to a Burrascano-type doctor. The doc is the key. Can't emphasize that enough.
Here is a summary of the Burrascano protocol:
You must attack both the regular and cyst (or other) form of lyme simultaneously--requires at least 2 different antibiotics taken together to do so.
You must test the patient for all co-infections and other physical ailments (thyroid, etc.) and treat everything the person has.
You must treat all co-infections the patient has(including babesiosis, bartonella, ehrlichia, mycoplasma, etc.) or the patient will not get well.
You must use Igenex for most of these tests--they are a tick-borne disease speciality lab in Calif.
You must use very high doses of antibiotics to kill the diseases (batericidal doses).
You must give the patient supplements, probiotics, herbs such as artimesinin if babesiosis is suspected, and require adherence to rules such as low carb diet, no alcohol, no smoking, rest, and exercise as the patient is able to do it.
You must treat at least 2 months after all symptoms have disappeared (if sick at least 1 year).
These are just a few of the important points you will see in the guidelines. If possible, you want a doc who does EVERYTHING Burrascano says to do.
He treated lyme for over 25 years, and compiled what he learned so that other docs could benefit from it. He was the most successful lyme doctor on the planet. They came from every country in the world to be treated by him.
So, check your medication dosages. Are they high enough? Also, are you eating the required diet, taking the required supplements, and doing the required one hour of continuous weightlifting every OTHER day? That exercise requirement is ESSENTIAL if lyme is ever to be cleared.
Read it in Burrascano. My lyme specialist told this to me at my very first appointment. It worked wonders for me.
I wish you the best! We will help you here as much as we can.
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Hello TF, thank you for your post. My LLMD is full-time dedicated into tickborne diseases treatment, she also is a Burrascano-type doctor. Plus, I made quite a lot of reading myself since the diagnosis, in order to understand the disease. I appreciate your help very much. Posts: 3 | From home | Registered: May 2016
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TF
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Well, see the quote below from Burrascano:
"The conventional antibiotics used for Lyme, such as the penicillins, cephalosporins, etc do not kill the cystic form of Bb, yet there is laboratory evidence that metronidazole will kill it. Therefore, the trend now is to treat the chronically infected patient who has resistant disease by combining metronidazole with one or two other antibiotics to target all forms of Bb. Because there is laboratory evidence that tetracyclines may inhibit the effect of Flagyl, this class of medication should not be used in these two- and three-drug regimens. Some clinicians favor tinidazole as this may be equally effective but result in fewer side effects." (page 15)
So, you have been in treatment almost 3 years now and you are not on Flagyl (metronidazole) or tinidazole. I hope you can see that you cannot kill lyme with just Doxycycline, Biaxin and Bactrim DS.
Bactrim kills babesiosis and bartonella. So, you are taking only doxy and Biaxin for lyme. That is not going to kill the cyst form of lyme. Only metronidazole and tinidazole kill the lyme in cyst form.
Some lyme specialists will NOT give a cyst-killing medication to a patient. They are afraid of the side effects. However, in my experience, you cannot get well without one.
I spent 2 years taking amoxicillin for lyme. If I stopped the med, within 2 weeks I was just as sick as I was at day 1.
Then, I switched doctors. The new doc said to me, "Congratuations. You have succeeded in turning all of your lyme into the cyst form."
He then put me on amoxicillin PLUS flagyl. I got my first herxheimer reaction on that combination of meds.
The amoxicillin kills lyme in the spirochete form and the flagyl kills it in the cyst form. This way, there is no way for the lyme to avoid getting killed.
After 60 days of flagyl, I was rid of lyme disease.
People have to be willing to change doctors if the doctor they are with is no longer able to get them any more progress. It is not easy. I know. But, changing doctors was the best decision I ever made.
I got rid of all my diseases. That was over 10 years ago and I now have the same life I had before lyme disease. Praise God!
So, it may be time to ask your current doctor about adding a medication capable of killing lyme in the cyst form. The doctor's reaction will tell you what your next move should be.
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droid1226
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Burrascano also says if you aren't better after a few yrs to move on to a different diagnosis.... I don't think it matters. There may be an increased likelyhood of autism but it's all conjecture at this point...
Brussels
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Shift to natural protocols. Many people swear by them. Burrascano cannot heal everyone, nor any lyme doc can. Just follow you gut.
I think lyme in males is better than lyme in females (for having kids). Does your wife have lyme?
Many people have kids despite lyme. It's more a matter of energy: do parents have enough energy to dedicate to a small child, full time? It is a lot of energy, and many lyme sufferers do not have that stamina.
My child had lyme after being born. The risk is anyway everywhere...
Have you heard of zika? That sounds MUCH more frightening than lyme, in my opinion.
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