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TexasBartonella
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So, I'm on the following pro oxidizing drugs:

Malarone
Mepron
Tindamax [well, it affects mitochondria at least, and anti oxidants protect mitochondria]
Artemisinin

I am concerned about all this drug induced oxidation going on constantly, plus my mitochondria health from the Tindamax.

Is it okay to take a greens superfoods shake that has kale, berries, green tea, beet root, maca root, wheat grass, barley grass, chlorella? Or will these anti oxidant foods interfere with the drugs? Also what about taking 1 gram of Vitamin C daily? Thoughts?

[I do know to specifically avoid CoQ10 as it interferes with Atovaquone...]

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Regarding supplements:

Usually never take antioxidants (which most liver supports are) with an Rx, within a few hours of both clock directions. Liver support should always be on board, just never too close as to interfere with absorption and therapeutic dose levels of the Rx.

As for concentrated veggie juices: probably best to put even a reasonable amount a couple hours away from Rx, too.

As for veggies - as food - a balance is good so you're not eating too much of any one thing at a time. The Rx should do okay with that.

Just not grapefruit or grapefruit juice. Drugs for babesia need to sure they can get to the therapeutic dose range and stay consistent so good questions. Your doctor would be best to confirm what you work out, though.


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As for superfoods shakes, I'm not so sure they are a good idea. 6 ounces maybe but not more. Spread it out. Too much liquefied vegetables just far too much - of so much - for the body in one hit.

Whole foods, though are also better for glycemic balance. So, with your veggie juice, be sure to also have some whole foods (lightly steamed, etc.) so your juice doesn't just hit and drop.

Some use various protein powders and good fats in a health shake and those can help stretch out the glycemic hit, however, whole foods do so better. And they can complement each other. Always good to have some solid foods with any veggie juice.

Oxalates? [You did not ask yet it comes to my mind.] You might want to be mindful of oxalate levels in the foods you choose. Some people can have trouble with those in excess, alone.
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I would be concerned about the high oxalate content of the shake you mentioned. It can get a person into real trouble.

Just continue to eat "healthy" .. including salads and vegetables. You will do great on those.

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Which of the ingredients I mentioned has high oxalates and what is bad about them?

Should I not be worried about this shake interfering with mepron/artemisinin or other pro-oxidizing drugs as far as weakening them against babesia etc?

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I know for sure that berries, kale and beets are high in oxalates. The others may be lower, but still too much .. especially when they are juiced.

When you juice, you get much more and it's more concentrated because you're consuming more than you would if you ate them as is.

Most think of oxalates in relation to kidney stones, but that is not the only issue. It affects everything.

When we have FEWER healthy GOOD bacteria in our gut due to antibiotics, then the problem is even bigger than we thought.

http://www.lowoxalate.info/

http://www.childrensdayton.org/cms/resource_library/nephrology_files/5f5dec8807c77c52/lithiasis__oxalate_and_diet.pdf

I never worried about the anti oxidants.. our bodies need all the help they can get when we are ill.

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