this researcher says that the same Aedes sp mosquito can carry different viruses such as dengue, yellow fever, Zika, not at the same time, but sometimes at the same time.
(does it sound new?)
Zika is a flavivirus of only 10 genes. Very 'simple', and it exists for quite many years, without causing bad diseases, even if it infected almost whole populations.
Borrelia is a prehistoric bacteria that was not known to have caused so many bad diseases until the last 30-40 years or so. In my view, the coinfection part of the problem complicates the illness.
Zika is a flavivirus very close to dengue, to West Nile and to the TBE virus (the tick born encephalitis virus)!
It can cause a skin RASH, fever, flu like symptoms. Most people recover after 10 days of acute symptoms. But what is crazy, is that Zika can remain in the body for very long, and it is found in the MOUTH (saliva), and sexual organs (semen, vagina).
Tranmission in utero is known as well as sexual transmission.
I listened to about 40 minutes of this lecture, but I'm amazed to see how many similarities there are with lyme disease.
The virus infect the placenta, and so affect the flow of blood to the fetus. So that the fetus will present growth problems.
The virus infect the brain, and can cause microcephaly in babies and also encephalitis or meningitis in adults (like TBE that is becoming a big issue here in Europe).
Zika started to be noticed NOT because of microcephaly in Brazil, but because it caused GUILLAIN BARRE syndrome somewhere in the French Polynesia!!! that was before Brazil.
It seems then, that it messes with the immune system, the neurological system, it is known to affect the EYES of babies, somehow it can infect pretty many tissues.
Don't you feel a sort of freaking similarity with Borrelia?!
Mexico is known to have Zika, as well as the whole of Latin America. Don't tell me that mosquitos do not cross country borders, like ticks do not cross state borders!
They do not have any vaccines for any flaviviruses so far.
Why is that only Brazil started having so many cases of microcephaly? Researchers do not know but suggest 3 hypothesis. One is that the virus could have mutated.
This Zika story is smelling bad. I don't want even to know what kind of interaction could happen if a lyme sufferer still gets Zika on top.
I didn't know TBE was a flavirirus too. I just know through experience (my daughter caught TBE), that it was the freakiest infection we ever fought.
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I'll look at the link later. Just wanted to say I was thinking the same thoughts you are…
The Natural Health Ranger guy is saying that it's the pesticide - not Zika that is causing people to be ill. I don't know. I'd have to study it further...
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Brazil had lots of microcephaly a couple years before Zika was thought to be there.
It was Monsanto that first reported a link between the microcephaly and the Zika, which means that Monsanto is just trying to cover up that the Monsanto products are causing the problems there.
This does not mean that Zika isn't causing any problems for anyone, just that it is not the main thing going on in Brazil. There are many causes for microcephaly.
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Some hypothesize that Zika is not the cause of microcephaly, but that the latter disease was actually caused by drinking water contaminated by pesticides.
I can't pretend to know, but I do think Zika exists. I also think that spraying and killing all those bees is not a viable solution.
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What if Borrelia hasn't become a mess for all of us just because of pesticides either?!
Have you all thought about that?
I wonder then what is then the COINCIDENCE between Guillan Barre syndrome and Zika in the French Polynesia, previous to Brazil?
PIIS0140-6736(16)00562-6.pdf (I couldn't copy paste the link well, but just google French Polynesia and Guillan Barre syndrome and Zika).
Also google map French Polynesia: it's a lost set of islands in the middle of the Pacific.
I don't see any BIG INTEREST of Monsanto there. I might be wrong, as they are everywhere... But no study of microcephaly then, only G.Barre syndrome (which is bad enough, in my opinion...)
It is very strange that G.Barre syndrome increased, and that almost all G. Barre syndrome patients had Zika virus in serology.
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Just think about the flavivirus that causes Tick born encephalitis (TBE).
Zika is a flavivirus!
You guys in the US are not that much in trouble with TBE as we here in Europe. Half of Switzerland is now RED for TBE.
Ticks are getting more and more infected, and even the mainstream media is reporting about cases of TBE.
Perfectly healthy young people getting literally handicapped FOR LIFE with problems such as: eternal headaches, 4 member paralysis, deafness, problems of concentration...
Anything related to the central nerve system (brain and spine) can be affected.
It takes ONLY about a month for that to happen! The infection and its damage can be done very very fast.
Just think that TBE virus in ticks come TOGETHER with Borrelia and other co-infections, and then you get the picture of how about 30% of patients who are reported get encephalitis, or meningitis, or meningo-encephalitis or myelitis.
30% is big. I just see Borrelia infection: almost everyone I know has been bitten once at least by ticks. Some many times, every year, and none of them have lyme.
The mainstream media has been reporting more and more cases. Drs. don't want to talk much about it, they just push whole populations to get vaccines!
TBE here causes lots of problems. All of them, are neurologic.
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There has been a remarkable increase in tick-borne flaviviral disease incidence throughout the past 2 decades.
Transmission of tick-borne viruses, like other vector-borne agents, is impacted by a very broad set of factors, both natural (eg, climate and ecology) and man-made (eg, human mobility and agricultural patterns).
As our encroachment into areas of virus endemicity intensifies, and as changes in global economic and environmental conditions continue to promote the expansion of tick populations,...
... we will undoubtedly continue to observe attendant increases in rates of disease attributable to these vector-borne pathogens.
This article focuses on a some of the major tick-borne flaviviral diseases, caused in particular by
Tick-borne encephalitis (TBE), one of the most dangerous neuroinfections in Europe and Asia, is caused by tick-borne encephalitis virus (TBEV) and currently involves approximately 11,000 human cases annually, mostly in Russia.
Epidemiologic data concerning the other tick-borne flaviviruses, namely Louping ill virus, Langat virus, and Powassan virus that ALSO produce ENCEPHALITIS on a SMALLER SCALE, are also presented.
Here we describe the history and current epidemiological role of Omsk HEMORRHAGIC fever virus and Kyasanur forest disease virus, two viruses that are genetically closely related to TBEV, but produce hemorrhagic fever instead of encephalitis, ...
... and provide possible explanations for these differences.
The other viruses in the tick-borne flavivirus group are also included despite the fact that they do not play an essential epidemiologic role in humans.
------------------------- It's crazy that so many of these flavivirus cause encephalitis.
Some cause hemorrhage, like dengue, that is 'coincidently' a flavivirus....
I don't find it too strange that Zika could be causing malformation in the brain...
I wouldn't be so fast in putting the whole guilt on Monsanto, only. Even though they deserve much worse!!
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I was just thinking: pesticides are all over in Europe, the US, in Latin America, Asia.
We all drink them, breathe them, eat them daily. Even if you are the organic all natural guy.
What if a not-so innocent virus such as Zika (which could cause G. Barre syndrome or some sort of encephalitis) got imported by mosquitoes to Brazil,...
... and then met a weak population, with their immune systems messed by excess of pesticides and herbicides, and then just thrived there, through mutations?
TBE flavivirus is known to be on earth at least 120,000 years, according to many studies (that go search for genes in the Artic ice).
Why only now, has it become epidemic??
Same as Borrelia, known to be prehistoric and more innocent than guilty in the past?
How is that almost innocent viruses and bacteria start to cause so many illnesses recently?
My point is that Monsanto may be as guilty for causing part of the problem of the Zika infection damage as it is for causing other problems, such as lyme disease and TBE. If not only Monsanto, the whole agrobusiness.
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: Monsanto is definitely involved, in my opinion. Then on top of that, they want to SPRAY for mosquitoes.
Get the picture?
Ditto.
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---and on top of that they just released GMO mosquitoes there in Brazil within the past year or two. I can't remember the timing, but that is the EXACT area where they were released.
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I don't think anyone really knows what is behind all of this. After studying what my health problems are & how I've had to cope… It's just more of the same scenario.
There are so many possibilities about what this is - it's mind boggling. I don't know if the public will ever know the truth.
There's a lady who did massive research & wrote these thick books documenting all the times they did live testing on the public… it's unbelievable. I forget her name & the book's title. It's about 3 inches thick… If I can find it, I'll post it. The point is - they've been doing so much experimenting & testing of all this stuff on the populace - who knows what is going to happen to humanity…?
I don't know any sane person who would decide to poison the food, air, & water of the place where we are all living.
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Zika Spraying Enriches Chemical Companies While Endangering Public Health
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Models warned 200 million Americans would become infected with Zika this summer, but the two states with the highest rates of Zika infections, New York and Florida, have only had 625 and 507 cases respectively so far
Naled insecticide, which is being aerially sprayed in Florida and elsewhere, can have adverse effects on your nervous system. Organophosphates are also linked with shortened pregnancies, lowered IQ and increased risk of ADD
New York and California are using pyrethroid pesticides to combat Zika-carrying mosquitoes; ingredients are known endocrine disruptors with neurotoxic and potentially carcinogenic properties, and may be harmful to the fetal brain
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It's a crazy world we are...
I am posting my guesses only... After seeing my daughter going through TBE, I don't doubt that a virus can cause all sorts of problems in the nervous system. And very serious problems.
She also got dengue (also a flavivirus), after having had her body covered with mosquito bites (more than 20 bites in one day) about 4 years ago.
that the damn mosquitoes in the tropics are contaminated with pathogens, I have no doubt.
Biting insects have played an extreme important role in evolution and natural selection.
Don't forget the plague transmitted by flees, malaria, now lyme and all the DOZENS of co-infections.
Just don't discard the possibility that mosquitoes are getting more infected.
The problem with dengue is also recent. When I grew up, it didn't exist. It started to be a problem since I moved out of Brazil.
That researchers find more and more strange critters inside biting mosquitoes is a FACT. Just go to wikipedia.
Most critters in mosquitoes seem to barely cause any disease, so they are not really well studied.
Just imagine that some sort of symbiotic behavior could happen: critter A alone causes not much disease, critter B neither. But combined, they could start causing problems.
Same logic with lyme: bartonella alone is not a big deal compared with bart + Borrelia.
Even babesia alone is not a big deal, but when combined with Borrelia, it becomes a bomb.
Who knows?
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It's like the scenario of "death by 1000 cuts…"
I do think that combinations of pathogens have been studied. I heard a scientist talking about drugs combined with EMFs create "synergistic" effects. Specific drugs have frequencies & when these drugs are combined with external EMFs - it causes a predictable reaction.
I'm sure these combed effects have been studied. Whomever is deciding to release all these pathogens probably has data about it. It's sort of odd that the pesticides have similar effects to Zika.
It may be a coincidence but I don't know… We are all living in a toxic soup. No one is even talking about Fukishima anymore. I'm sure that plays into all of this.
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I was thnking about Fukishima yesterday- when I went to grab a bottle of natural spring water from the remote springs of iceland...
do they test these types of springs???? I mean for radiation.
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Probably not… Icelandic water is probably pretty good. It's hard to say how good the water in bottles is, though. I was in Iceland a while ago & even the tap water there tastes good…
Above, a paper in Portuguese, talking about many pesticides and microcephaly.
Dengue: was already LONG in Brazil (since 1779!!). Reports until 1950 showed dengue as INOFFENSIVE.
I grew up in Brazil in the 70-80s, I have zero memory of dengue in the media.
In 1968 started the governmental action to fight mosquitoes. How? Through pesticides.
They tried TEMEPHOS, it worked for a while. Mosquitoes got resistant.
They changed to DIFLUBENZURON and NOVALURON: they worked for a while, moquitoes got resistant.
These chemicals are now known to have caused meta-hemoglobin (red blood cells change and can't transport oxygen).
both chemicals INHIBIT GROWTH (as they are aimed to kill larvae).
They added MALATHION.
2004 FERITHROTHION.
Recently (2014) they added PYRIPROXFEN.
Confirmed cancerigenes (1998, UFPE university study) are malathion, diflubenzuron, ferithrotion.
Note that the government recommends pregnant women to use DEET repellents to avoid any mosquito bite (due to dengue, now due to Zika).
The paper says that until 2013, the number of DEATHS from DENGUE in Sao Paulo State (southeast) was small.
It was there that DENGUE concentrates mostly, while MICROCEPHALY is basically in Pernambuco State (Northeast).
From 2014-2015 there was a SUDDEN DEATH INCREASE in SP from DENGUE infections: 400 deaths only in that state (2 of my brothers had to spend about a week in hospital too due to dengue; they were knocked out, they said).
In SP, the government uses a lot of MALATHION to control insects.
The paper suggests that the use of chemicals to control pests is totally inefficient as mosquitoes ALWAYS develop resistance.
And they somehow 'suggest' a possible cause for strange diseases (some chronic) that have been increasing recently after extensive use of pesticides.
The COMBINATION of so many teratogenic (cancerigenous), hormone-imitating chemicals, growth blocking substances, INSECTICIDES could be causing both DEATHS of people through DENGUE (that was not at all killing people for centuries, literally), and MICROCEPHALY.
This is a paper from an association which includes many medical doctors, including epidemiologists.
The paper CLEARLY suggests that a freaky combination of pesticides is WHAT caused the almost innocent virus (dengue) to start CAUSING disease in humans. And somehow, the tipping point in the case of dengue was Malathion.
Maybe the tipping point for Zika or microcephaly was Pyripfoxyfen.
--------------------------------------------- Similarities to lyme disease? Certainly. It is not only the bacteria causing us disease. The bacteria has evolved with us, like dengue virus.
Why is it that we are all falling so ill with bacteria and critters that existed so long?
Note that until the 90s many people could go to lyme remission only with one antibiotic (doxy).
After 2000, the picture changed (according to dr. K). And it continues to change, as we need more and more killers to control a wide range of infections.
---------------------------------------- Aren't we making the same mistakes as the Brazilian government trying pesticide after pesticide?
Mosquitoes develop resistance, they use another, and another. Then come more serious diseases!!
It freaks me out to see that so ill patients with lyme are using dangerous chemicals to protect against ticks! Permethrin, DEET...
Exactly the same mistake Brazil has been making.
Not to speak about antibiotics, that are somehow the 'pesticides' of microbes!
In my opinion, there is much more than one single cause, but the soup of man-made toxins + once innocent microbes can be explosive sometimes, like in the case of microcephaly, ...
...but MOSTLY it creates not-so-clear problems to call public attention, such as allergies, hormone problems, neuro problems, inflammation .... In short, chronic diseases.
Not only Monsanto is guilty (easy to point the finger there), nor Zika or Dengue alone...
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Personally, I don't use ANY chemicals to keep ticks away. I stay AWAY from TICKS!
It really scares me to think they will start spraying in all of our communities. I thank God I am no longer living along the coast. We were sprayed constantly and malathion and DDT were used back then. Really awful.
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