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Tincup
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Absolutely! Even the machines in chiropractic and PT offices can cause a severe herx. Mine you could set a clock to it- about 2 1/2 days later it would start.
With the main problem being, the patient feels fine when leaving the building after a treatment, and 2 or 3 days later they crash in misery from the machine that was hooked up to a power source.
Most of the time they don't connect the "good" feeling and machine use at the office with the herx because it isn't immediate.
One of the LLMDs even wrote to a number of doctors telling them not to use these machines on Lyme patients due to this reaction. It can be very serious.
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I definitely had that with certain frequencies.
The day after 432, for instance, I usually felt pretty good and clear headed, but by that night, and certainly by the day after that, I would sink into a terrible combination of brain-dead and fatigue. This would last four days, then I would climb out of it. It generally took ten days before I was able to do that freq again. After a while, of course, I stopped having any reactions to it.
787 too -- many herx syx would start the second day after coiling.
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Keebler
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- Brain blip - your "headline" reads "Herx delay after rife session"
My eyes saw "herx daily" - so, after my replies I see you did not say you are doing it daily. Still, some good detail here that may help.
As others say, indeed, a delay in a herx can certainly be common - and explained.
-- Not sure how long you've been doing rife or the state of lyme . . . if you are rifing for lyme everyday, though, that could be far too often.
For lyme, it's important to rife only every TWELVE DAYS, as a basic rule. More often can damage kidneys.
Another basic "rule" is to let a herx taper off before rifing again for lyme. Usually the twelve day window allows for that.
Rifing for other TBD can be done more frequently, though.
Always end on 10K, always. And that can be used every day. -
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Keebler
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- including Rosner's book & discussion threads -
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Keebler
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- Liver support should be on board BEFORE every rife session, too, and - of course - pretty much all the time. If that is happening, you might need a little adjustment if a herx is too strong. Always try to avoid a strong herx if at all possible.
I have been in treatment since 2004. At the moment pulsing with tetracycline and flucanazole. Some years back I bought a GB4000 and used the frequencies that came with it. I never saw great effect though, no major herxes. So I didn't use it for quite some time, maybe a couple of years.
Recently my LLMD, who was never pro rife, told me that several of his patients did see improvement using their rife machines. So I thought to give it another shot. I used the frequencies he gave me.
I did a 40 minute sweep from 1218 to 1230. I did that Wednesday night and did not notice anything that night or Thursday. Then Friday at around noon somethings hit me, what felt like a major herx. It reminded me from when I first started treatment many years ago with Bicillin injections. That herx lasted around 4 hours and then I felt better.
Later I posted my question here.
Now Saturday, I feel like crap again. Also have neurological symptoms. Plus fever blisters are starting up. Is this like a second wave or my immune system going overtime?
All in all, I should be happy that something is happening I guess. No, no way I'm doing this daily 😄. I hope to recover soon - I need to go to work on Mondau - and then repeat 2 weeks from now.
I will be most grateful for any comments or suggestions!
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D Bergy
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1224 Hz is a higher harmonic of the original Doug McLane frequency of 306Hz. I ran it on my wife asvthe 612 Hz harmonic so your are right in Lyme territory with that sweep.
Two of the best Lyme frequencies I use are 2016 Hz and 840.6 Hz. Yeah, I would give some recovery time before you try again. It's a marathon as you already know.
Dan
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It's Sunday afternoon now and I have had another bad episode, what feels like another herx. Shorter this time but still. This is strange to me. I have never experienced multiple herxes due to one treatment with antibiotics. Is this even possible (due to a rife treatment)? Or is it unrelated?
Thanks,
Tim
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D Bergy
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Antibiotics typically work by interfering with reproduction. Frequency treatments and oxidative treatments kill directly. Frequency treatments can also just damage some of the targets that might die off later on or are then taken care of by the immune system.
I can't prove it, but I also suspect the sudden die off gets the immune system ramped up to the infection.
It can be pretty unpredictable.
Dan
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Keebler
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- tvalentijn
You say "Sorry to bother you all"
Not at all. That's what the forum is here for. Anytime you have a question - as often as you have a question - just post.
Do you have Rosner's book? That's in the links set.
Good luck. -
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2 days is about average for me to have the herx kick in. Start slow and ramp up treatments as symptoms allow.
I found that I needed to get to a point where I was treating lyme much more frequently than every 2 weeks to maintain progress.
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