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So much contradictory info out there on eating fruit with Lyme. Is it good? Bad? Which ones to eat? Which to avoid? Help!!!
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- Check the GLYCEMIC INDEX. Low sugar fruits usually also contain things like chromium that can balance blood sugar (such as blueberries).
Low sugar high antioxidant dark, rich, bright BERRIES are best. Best after a well balanced meal, though, and also be sure to have anti-candida measures on board (such as olive leaf extract or other antifungal herbs).
IMO, some fruit is essential for the specific nutrients.
Be sure to get vitamin C, though, somehow. Berries are not that high in C. -
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I am unable to digest veggies due to severe gastroparesis symptoms but I do tolerate all fruits well.
I see nothing wrong with anyone here eating fruit and when I see these kinds of questions it makes me sad. Fruit is full of colorful nutrients and vitamins! Eat it and enjoy!
If you are super worried about the bad sugars, eat the fruit with your protein. Balance your meal.
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I went without fruit for several years. That was over 20 years ago. I still have Lyme.
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I don't think dietary strategies help much. Of course if you're celiac or have a food allergy, avoid those, but Lyme is a parasite and eats us, not our food.
Some people who have brain disorders from Lyme do better on ketogenic diets, but otherwise I'm not sure if even that helps.
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If you are on antibiotics or have candida I would pass on the fruit.
Otherwise, berries are great due to their high concentration of antioxidants and their high pulp to fruit ratio making them a slower burning sugar. And as Sammy suggested, consume fruit after protein, healthy fats, and fiber.
Fruit is healthy in moderation but sugar is sugar and its called "natures candy" for that reason.
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- To help guard against candid overgrowth, along with common sense & planning, probiotics:
A very specific brand of Olive Leaf extract (or a brand that uses the same methods of growing, harvesting, processing) - Seagate. Detail:
OLE Links -
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I'm with Tincup (live), unless of course you are on abx.
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I never stopped fruits, not during lyme, not after lyme. I love fruits.
I still have sometimes candida, but what is helping me is to add live food (probiotic FOOD, not supplements) to my diet, daily, like a religion.
When candida is too high, I go slower with fruits.
The best in my opinion is to stop gluten. Somehow, gluten makes my digestion slow, it messes up with my digestion.
Fruits, veggies, never really mess with me. Only when I'm allergic to them.
Juices is though in my NO NO list. Too much sugar at once.
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what about the sugar in fruit? if you've got yeast, isnt it a problem?
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Have you seen garlic with yeast? Of course, they eat garlic too.
Or onion with yeast? Of course, they get blackish or whitish, and stink alcohol.
Do they decompose your salad? Yep.
Ginger? Yep.
Fruits? Yep.
Some even decompose skin, meat, everything (see links above).
Are you going to eat what then? There is no choice.
Fungi / yeast are here to help decomposing organic matter.
they are also here to help your gut digest foods.
Without yeast / fungi, we may eat, but the nutrition in our food wouldn't be absorbed well by us and we could easily starve (despite eating good food).
Garlic, onion and lettuce have sugar, and virtually everything in nature is decomposed by fungi /yeast with the help of bacteria and insects.
What can we eat then?
Have you ever done the no-sugar no-carb diet, very strictly?
My candida does not bulge only with 'anti-candida' diet. It helps so minimally, one can barely notice.
This is because candida will find food in anything you eat. Of course, eating fruits in great amounts won't help.
But they contain good vitamins and nutrition. I always ate them moderately.
What stopped my candida now was simply adding kimchi (fermented garlic, onions, fish sauce, cabbage, chili pepper, etc).
I don't know if this will last, but usually Jan and Feb are my worst months with candida.
Now I have zero symptoms! Let's see if it will last. I'm still eating fruits (and all Xmas / year end cakes, champagne, wine....). Zero symptoms for the moment.
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Fruit contains a lot of natural sugar, so if you have a yeast infection, you might want to avoid fruit until the yeast infection is gone.
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I am on antibiotics and do have celiac, so that complicates things. Aside from fruit, I'm mainly on a diet of grass fed beef and bison - there aren't many things my system can tolerate, and most veggies are out, so I'd like to keep on the fruit for nutrients. But it does sound like there's mixed reviews at best.
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Have you looked at pages 34-35 of Burrascano's Guidelines? He tells you what fruits you can eat and which you can't while you are taking antibiotics.
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It's easy to say 'stop eating fruits'.
Then add: 'stop eating carbs'. They are sugar too.
It remains only proteins to eat: meat, fish, chicken, tofu, stuff like that.
But proteins feed bacteria!!!
In my view, a balanced diet is the only way out, when one is a lyme sufferer.
It is much more important to stop eating foods that cause you allergy or reactions (such as gluten, sometimes cow milk products, fruits and veggies that you are allergic) because they will mess with your gut, digestion...
... boost inflammation, and then you make a perfect environment for bacterial, fungal and viral infections!
Plus you get all the nasty inflammatory symptoms that just wrecks your life.
Many people with lyme suffer from multiple allergies, specially food.
If you are not allergic to bananas, apples, but allergic to most other fruits, would you stop eating apples and bananas?
Take vitamin pills instead? And risk getting allergic to the chemicals in pills?
There is NO one single fitting for all diet. Unfortunately. It would be good if there were: just follow the book, and get well.
when I'm flaring with candida, of course I avoid sugar containing stuff, and diminish carb intake.
but gluten for me is more poisonous for candida than an apple or a banana. I flare clearly with gluten, and it lasts longer than the flares with fruits...
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