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randibear
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I've had this cough for months. sometimes its so thick i cough up crud, other times jus cough.

my doctor jus says oh thats some nasty cough you have there but since I have malignant blood pressure I cant even take cough syrup.

does lyme cause chronic cough?

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very possibley Chlamydia Pneumonia, a lyme co-inf


http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/general-support/212679-chlamydia-pneumonia-lymes-twin-sister

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good info here

http://www.cpnhelp.org/potential_new_protocol?page=1

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In addition to Cpn, Babesia sure caused me to cough a lot - for years.

Be sure to banish all fuzzy things around for the microbes they can attract - and very fine particulate matter can get into the lungs and be such an irritant. Clothes, textiles, even bath mats (a cork mat does not shed at all or harbor germs).

A HEPA filtering system on your vacuum is also important.

Of other things to consider: milk / dairy. Why?

Milk causes phlegm. That's the major reason to avoid it. Phlegm harbors all kinds of germs and the respiratory systems and gut can really hold a lot of phlegm. And, so many other reasons:


http://tinyurl.com/obow8h5

Got Milk? Might Not Be Doing You Much Good

- by Aaron E. Carroll - The New York Times - Nov. 17, 2014


http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/07/got-milk-you-dont-need-it/?hp

Got Milk? You Don't Need It

By MARK BITTMAN - The New York Times, July 7, 2012

and follow-up to that:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/more-on-milk/?ref=opinion?hp

July 24, 2012

More on Milk

By MARK BITTMAN -The New York Times

Sidebar: When a lifetime of suffering, medical visits and prescription drugs can be resolved with a not especially challenging dietary change, a certain amount of retroactive frustration seems justifiable.

Not surprisingly, experiences like mine with dairy, outlined in my column of two weeks ago, are more common than unusual, at least according to the roughly 1,300 comments and e-mails we received since then.

In them, people outlined their experiences with dairy and health problems as varied as heartburn, migraines, irritable bowel syndrome, colitis, eczema, acne, hives, asthma (``When I gave up dairy, my asthma went away completely''),

- full article at link above.
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https://www.diet-health.info/en/100001/papers/6166/nutrition/book-review-dont-drink-your-milk-by-frank-a-oski

“Don’t Drink Your Milk!“

by Frank A. Oski - First publ. 1996; 3rd edition 2013

Another doctor recognized problems caused by milk and provided short descriptions for 32 of the many studies he had analyzed.

Book Review - 28 Jul 2015

Excerpts [Much more extensive detail in the book]:

. . . Vegetables (such as spinach, chard or mangold) contain at least twice as much iron and up to 30 times more than in milk. Vegetables also often contain more calcium if you consider the important net intake figure. . . .

. . . In the next part of the book Dr. OSKI writes about milk allergies and these have nothing to do with lactose intolerance.

Nasal congestion, asthma attacks, respiratory infections, uneven skin changes, vomiting or diarrhea are all symptoms of cow's milk allergy, where there is no other explanation for it. . . .

. . . But one must always carefully ascertain no other reasons exist for these symptoms.

Unfortunately, people suffer too often from unrecognized food allergies. You should always check first if milk is the cause of any symptom.

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Food allergies, and especially milk, are often not IgE-dependent. Gluten intolerance (celiac disease) is also one of the immunological, non-IgE-caused food intolerances.

Antibodies in the blood rarely indicate more besides the fact that the person has been consuming more of that food item. . . .
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. . . Research Appendix, Page 95

On the following pages, Prof. Dr. FRANK ARAM OSKI M.D. introduces 32 scientific papers he used . . . .

[this book review provides an annotated bibliography with key points of those papers, along with some References and Reading

Suggestions. Scroll all the way down.]
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ELDERBERRY EXTRACT has been a wonderful helpful to calm coughs for me.

Also to help reduce coughing spasms from irritation & sooth the tissue in the throat:

Slippery Elm Bark, Marshmallow Root, DGL (a form of licorice)

And some kind of anti-inflammatory such as Turmeric / Curcumin -- & Ginger (but not too much as ginger can be a bit stimulating)
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Your magnesium levels might do well to be checked. RBC / intracellular levels, not blood serum.

If magnesium is low, muscle spasms from coughs can be so much worse. But the kind taken, and the frequency matter. Details:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=123746;p=0

Topic: MAGNESIUM - Informational Links set
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jus got tested. I'm low in potassium, cholesterol is a little high but not enuff for statins. also had a ct scan for calcium in the heart. I'm excellent for that. no deposits.

also the sneezing after eating is so bad. I counted 10 sneezes after lunch. dr says its rhinitis but i sneeze no matter what I eat. embarrasing...

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The thing is that most doctors are not going to suggest all the various causes (not to mention the influences that may not be a cause but can make things worse)

nor some of the solutions to try. They just don't think that way.

There are so many variables that we have to "test out" for ourselves regarding textiles, products we are around, apply, ingest or breathe, etc.

Inflammation is the largest influence and while it may take a while to figure out the cause(s), inflammation is most certainly something to address that is likely to help.

Inflammation can cause more phlegm to develop & make it harder for the body to move it out - and that's never a good thing for a body to have choke any of its systems.

Oh, that brings me to WATER being so very vital to help the lungs, too. But it takes a concerted plan to cover all the bases. And most typical doctors are just not going to walk anyone through what it takes.
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try some essential oils in the nose. Thieves oil would be great. Young Living is the best, imho

i've done this and it really helps

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Randibear what are you eating that brings on the sneezing? That could very well be a histamine intolerance type issue.

While it might not be related to the cough, avoiding foods your body doesn't like can reduce the overall burden of what you have to deal with, possibly improving many different symptoms. Food intolerances definitely contribute to inflammation.

Babesia gives me a wicked cough, it's either cough or choke until I do. It tends to be sporadic but much worse and more frequent when Babs is flaring. Happens at the most inopportune moments too.

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Isn't there an LLMD that you could see?? I know, this is Texas, no known for being kind to LLMD's. You sure do need it.

I'm not saying that everything is that, but it sure would help.

And yes to the food intolerances, histamine issues, etc.

What gz says above is exactly what I experience with coughing, choking, short of breath, etc. I badly need to get back on treatment.

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I sneeze no matter what I eat. I've checked dairy, meat, veggies, you name it. doesn't matter if I eat at home or a restaurant.

frustrating because I can't take any medication, at all. my bp won't allow it. not even coricidine.

called one llmed in denton. he's not taking new patients plus he's raised his fees and all cash. I called a center in dallas and they said they don't treat lyme. rats..

can't convince dr to send me for allergy testing. I swear if he mentions stress again I'm going to kill him.

I asked the cardio if stress caused this last episode and he said no. he said it definitely will raise bp but he's never seen a patient whose stress caused it to go that high...ever. so no he didn't believe it was stress.

one idiot even suggested lyme was stress induced. almost hit that one...grrr

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Maybe check with your TX Lyme Support Groups to see if they can suggest someone you could see:

TX online state Lyme groups:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TexasLyme/info

Some more resources for you (including Support Groups info):
http://whatislyme.com/lyme-in-texas/

www.txlda.org

http://www.lymenet.org/SupportGroups/UnitedStates/Texas/

How about getting homeopathic treatment? It is gentle and doesn't interfere with medications.

http://homeopathyyes.com/

http://www.homeopathyhouston.com/

Perhaps a Functional Medicine doctor could help you? Find one here:

https://www.ifm.org/find-a-practitioner

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