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Christopher J
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Works wonders for my Lyme symptoms!

In all of the comments following the discovery of Lyme needing large amounts of Manganese, and that certain drugs that reduce Manganese levels show promise, we got the standard dribble warnings of 'Don't try to 'starve' your body of Manganese, you'll die! Instantly' (ok Im exaggerating but that's the gist).

Knowing convential wisdom on anything Lyme related is usually wrong, I decided to remove all Manganese food products from my diet progressively. So no nuts, no seeds, no chocolate, no beans, no oats, no rice.

I found out milk is the ultimate food to accomplish this. Pretty much nutritionally complete (with a little vitamin c once in a while) and virtually no Mangaese.

Im currently on a low fat milk fast, where I drink basically 1 - 1.5 Gallons of milk per day and I have never felt better. All of my Lyme symptoms disappear by Day 4 or so.

Ive done these milk fasts a couple times now, and everytime same deal. I just dont continue it as long as I should, but I will this time. I would estimate my total Manganese daily intake now is close to zero.

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Glad you found something to help you!

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Wonderful! I know I don't feel well on any of the foods you listed. (they are also high in histamine)

I THINK dairy is OK for me... been trying to figure that out for a year or two now.

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Christopher J
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I use Organic Valley Lactose Free 0% (fat free). I have some problems digesting other milks but this one is aces. Instant digestion, no issues. My theory on milk is that it must be processed correctly to make it digestable. Contrary to trendy thinking, raw milk doesnt digest well for me. I prefer ultra pasteurization and with the OV lactose free they heat it and then add an enzyme which converts the lactose to glucose and galactose.
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Marnie
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Some people who think they are lactose intolerant really are reacting to a protein in milk called A1.

Several grocery stores carry now A2 milk (more expensive,'natch). It tastes just like regular milk.

It's sort of the "latest thing" - lactose intolerant, gluten intolerant...now A1 (protein) intolerant.

Supposedly it helps raise glutathione - which needs cysteine and D3 with K2 to be made...K2 keeps Ca where it belongs - in bones and teeth - not in soft tissue. It does not function like K1 which is associated with clotting.

K2 helps our mitochondria. D3 with K2 made a remarkable improvement in our son just recently - all of a sudden happy and thinking more clearly, so I researched as to WHY...He's autistic and kids with autism have mitochondria dysfunction (which happens in a lot of diseases/genetic problems as well). BTW...he also takes P5P (active B6) that contains B2 (riboflavin - needed to make FAD and FMN in the mitochondria)+ Mg and Ca by NOW (brand) and ubiquinol (CoQ10 antioxidant) for mitochondrial support.

K2-mitochondria - link here:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120511101240.htm

Goat milk and mom's milk only contain the A2 protein.

Here is a really good link with a very easy to understand PICTURE about what causes our mitochondria to malfunction.

See PICTURE (easy to understand!) which indicates Ca 2+, free radicals ->oxidative stress and NFkB -> inflammatory cytokines ALL lead to mitochondrial dysfunction.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213231715000282


Keep in mind, Bb may also use Ca for biofilm...

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Christopher J
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I wish they had organic A2 milk because Ive been eyeing the A2 since I first saw it in the store. I seem to never buy it though since it's not organic. I dont want to risk getting milk from conventional cows being fed mountains of GMO corn and soy. Im sure if it gets big enough, there will be an Organic Valley A2 milk.
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