Topic: Trump Lays Groundwork to Stop Mandatory Vaccination
Beverly
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So Sorry Keebler, Lauren is not my sister, I was copying it from another post on Facebook, a person who wanted it posted everywhere for awareness about what some people go through with vaccinations. People are so ignorant about how others suffer.
It would be nice if you could post Lauren’s picture, Keebler, I tried to do it and it would not work for me.
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I think the problem is not the vaccine itself.
If you want that, take it, give it to your baby, etc.
The problem is FORCING vaccines to everyone, no matter who.
That is in discussion. It's not the vaccine itself.
If some vaccines did save lives, well, it looks apparently good, at first sight.
What if though, vaccines lowered the gene pool in a way the great majority of the population start suffering from chronic illnesses for life?
It's hard to talk about the price of lives.
What is the price we have to pay as a species?
What if vaccines save thousands of lives, but let millions ill with chronic illnesses for life?
Both sides are tough: to loose a life is not good, but to be chronic ill forever, since childhood, either.
Freedom of choice: you want to take it, thinking this is safe, why not?
You don't want to take it, because you think it can't do any better - I have no doubt I'd rather get TBE than go through a vaccine that is not proven safe - well, leave us the choice NOT to take the jabs.
The discussion is about FORCED VACCINES, not about vaccines.
I hope Trump or whoever will be able to stop this madness. Are we in a concentration camp society??
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Keebler
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- There can be no true choice without education.
The issue, as I see it, are the toxic additives in the vaccines. These adjuvants can destroy some lives. Aluminum & glycophate are just starters.
And most patients / kids have no idea about this - or what it all means.
There can be no true choice if the doctors, themselves, are not fully educated about all the aspects - not just what the manufactures tell them. They are not provided the information, time and opportunity - or freedom - to study all the aspects or even to make up their own minds.
the public has been told / trained to trust what their doctors say but unless doctors start trusting what patients report back to them, this model just can't work.
Bottom line that few consider:
The ingredients are far more than just the infection vaccine element.
Listen to lectures of Dr. Suzanne Humphries (a former nephrologist) before the state congress hearings in either W. Va. or Virginia. YouTube has those.
She is very clear about the extreme toxicity (even if in small amounts) of the adjuvants (put there to cause an immune response)
- and why some people might seem to do okay (but maybe not so, really, later on) . . . and why others are stricken at the time of vaccine or within a short time.
The number of vaccines on schedule, too, are a major risk to many kids - and adults now, too, as the vaccine schedule has been ramped up for every human that still has a heart beat, no matter the age.
She saw too many of her patients go into full kidney failure, requiring lifetime dialysis only after a vaccine.
She started to see connections when many, over time, would say "I was fine until I got that shot" so to speak. She did not go looking for this. Her patients were becoming disabled and she listened, and learned over several years' time. She lost her job over this (as have some other good doctors).
She also has other interviews on YouTube. The ones that are lecture format are the best to watch for this detail.
In some of her lectures, she explains, too, how some of the diseases that are supposedly eradicated by vaccines may not be so to the perceived degree - because the same disease might just be called something else now. This matters.
She has evidence that vaccine coverage regarding immuniity is not actually what the vaccines are "supposed" to be and that's important detail to consider. Many times, they do not work as they are advertised - especially for some with immune or genetic variations.
She does not tell anyone to or not to get such and such a vaccine. What she is about is education as to the ingredients and time schedule and sheer numbers.
Get the actual package insert for any vaccine prior to making the decision. Can't be done that day, get it, take it home, read it, study it. Then study other sources before making a decision.
One major consideration of many: no body should ever have aluminum injected as, with the glyphosate ingredient (an herbacide),
that opens up the blood brain barrier to let the aluminum right in to do major damage due to the glutamate interaction there that can destroy nerve cells and cause over activation of immune system which can later just crash.
My attempt to explain. Humphries' lectures (and those of other doctors) voice this more precisely.
And, my observation: when we think, well, most people are all just swell and dandy - look around. Are they? Are they, really? -
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Keebler
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VACCINE INGREDIENTS - Informational Links set -
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Beverly
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I have only really met a few people that were completely healthy, they had no mercury fillings in their mouth.
I certainly know many sick people and I have givin up on trying to tell them to find another doctor, try using herbs, turmeric, cannabis, what is the harm in trying?
Doctors aren’t Gods and some can have wonderful intentions but can be completely wrong, they are human.
If you study history you will remember the doctor who told other doctors about germs, he was trying to find out why certain women were dying after giving birth?
He was the doctor who told them about washing hands, he was completely ostracized by the medical community until he died, no one would ever suggest a person not wash their hands in today’s world would they? But that was the knowledge they had at the time, we now know about bacteria, viruses and such.
I do not want Mandatory Vaccination, ever.
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Bartenderbonnie
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About Dr. Suzanne Humphries---its important to mention here that she has received terrifying death threats from big pharma thugs at least three times-- including photoshop pictures of her--- depicted as a maimed person with her eyes gouged out!!
People who would threaten others in this way would not hesitate to put toxins in our vaccines while making money off of our injury!!! They also would not hesitate to deny chronic Lyme disease to the public, design fraudulent blood tests, and strip good LLMDs of their ability to practice. Mainstream media is fake, and has been absent in reporting what is going on!!
Do NOT trust the fake news mainstream media.
People here should also remember that these same big Pharma criminal thugs have MURDERED many naturopathic physicians, plus they killed a CDC researcher. These criminals are guilty of multiple murders and death threats-- and they will eventually be held accountable.. God will ensure that they are held accountable for their evil so all Christians here need to pray that the evil be exposed.
Shockingly, the corrupt FBI turned around and tried to BLAME Dr. Humphries-- for giving death threats to herself.
"Blaming the victim" is the typical response of the criminal psychopaths who now own our health industrial complex and our highest offices of justice and law enforcement..
Just remember: Democrats sold American uranium to the Russians, then later turned around and accused Trump of being "in league" with the Russians. The crooks blame their victims for what they themselves are doing!!! Adding insult to injury. They blame the victims.
In the best case this is called "projection."
Worst case it is called DIABOLICAL INVERSION. Pure evil.
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quote:Originally posted by sammy: Shame shame shame.
I believe whole heartedly in vaccines.
The science is easily available online from reliable sources. No need to waste my time posting it here, that would take all week!
Have you not paid attention to the stories of your elders? I’ve learned much from mine.
Do you know that people were dying from TB in the 60’s? I have pictures of a great uncle days before he was placed on the iron lung. Of course he died. Alfred. From Cincinnati, Ohio.
The mother of a best friend in school contracted polio 1 day before her classmates were given the vaccine. She was 5 years old, paralyzed in arms & legs. Many other long lasting health problems. Mrs. N, also from Ohio.
As a new RN, on a medical mission, I witnessed first hand how infectious measles was... EVERY child but 1 DIED from that village & surrounding area the infection!!! Sadly I saw that last little girl on her very last day of life. Can you imagine seeing a child suffering before your very eyes from a disease that is vaccine preventable? If I could have given my life to save that last little girl I would have. But no, all I could do was weep as I was powerless. Ecuador.
So there is absolutely nothing, nothing, nothing that anyone could tell me to make me believe that vaccines are bad.
Sammy-- You and your children are free to take as many vaccines as you wish to-- and to believe the lying marketing and hype delivered by big pharma on TV if you choose.
But please don't force me-- a person who has had an adverse reaction to both the yellow fever and the tetanus vaccines-- to take more vaccines-- because of your vaccine worshipping religion.
I HAVE BEEN INJURED by your religion.
Vaccines for me are not a religion. They are a personal choice. Some people (poor detoxifiers-- about one third of the population) react badly to vaccines-- the science is settled on that one. I am a poor detoxifier -- so please don't force your multiple vaccine religion on me!!
Also the decline in TB was NOT due to a TB vaccine (the TB VACCINE IS INEFFECTIVE) -- but was instead due to sanitation, a reduction in crowding and effective treatment.
Please get your facts straight-- much decline in disease has been due to sanitation, clean water and effective treatment NOT preventative vaccines. . Of course I would take a rabies vaccine if a rabid fox bit me. But probably no other vaccine--- science mixed with profits and marketing is not pure science--- it is junk science. And the marketing is basically lies.
And now you cannot even sue a manufacturer if they accidentally put cyanide or live bird flu in your vaccine. They are unaccountable-- and their science is junk science-- based on greed..
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Bartenderbonnie
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Update !!!!!
Amazon has apparently started removing anti-vaccine documentaries from its Amazon Prime Video streaming servers;
Pinterest has gone 1 step further. . . They have blocked all 'vaccination' related searches. Pinterest also has banned any alternative or natural cures, stating them as misinformation;
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I have now heard mentioned "wild" measles as well as '"vaccine" measles. The guy wasn't more informative than just using those terms but I assume it means that that vaccines have caused a new strain of measles????
When I was a kid, we all had measles and it was considered a minor childhood disease. No one ever died from it or I'd have certainly heard about it. Some say these childhood illnesses can help the immune system to develop.
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Keebler
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- I think it's important to recognize some of the very real dangers of such infections. Even decades ago, some kids did not fare well at all. And some did die just as some still do. We just did not hear about them like we do today with rapid media.
But that brings no less devastation to the families faced with damage or death to a loved child.
It's just that now, a percentage of those who have been given the vaccine have also faced some devastating consequences.
They deserve just as much recognition as those who suffer from the disease.
But we, as a society, with the media hate against the "anti-vaxxers" are failing to see the point: safety for all.
The vaccine injury group has many documented cases of harm.
But it's not so black and white. The INGREDIENTS, each ingredient and in totality, needs to be considered. No study has been done on all the adjuvants.
Still, when someone who has had a reaction in the past - or whose parents have studied this for good reason, want a choice, it's vital to keep that choice an option.
Also lost in this media blitz is how else can we support kids (and adults) who are have so many immune stressors today beyond decades ago.
[Personally, I think our medical model is broken and negligent, though, to not consider various ways to actually treat various viruses. Let some naturopathic physicians lend their knowledge to all the ways to approach prevention and treatment - and maybe ways to help vaccines become safer, too] -
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Keebler
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- I know that vaccines can cause damage. The last 3 vaccines between '87 & '93) I had each caused serious neurological damage from which I have never recovered.
Obviously, not every person has such reactions. But more than a few certainly have / do / can.
Convulsions within hours of one, then ataxia, trouble talking, thinking, etc. only marginally got better - while on steroids - but then crashed worse when they were stopped.
A few years later, very similar issues - and the third one landed me in bed for a full year, unable to do much more than survive. I also had undiagnosed lyme, babesia, etc. but the vaccines, each within hours, really cut me down.
So I know this about much more than "mercury" or "autism" which the loud voices like to say, "oh, that's not there anymore or isn't caused by" . . . when, really, that has not been disproven at all.
Where some vaccines no longer have mercury, some still do but the aluminum is also a major factors as are other neurotoxins that can get to the brain much quick with the addition of glyphosate in the vaccine. What's a weed killer doing to us?
My words cannot say what I wish to convey. Much more good detail here:
The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is a national charitable, non-profit educational organization founded in 1982.
NVIC launched the vaccine safety and informed consent movement in America in the early 1980's and is the oldest and largest consumer led organization advocating for the institution of vaccine safety and informed consent protections in the public health system.
Our Mission
The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is dedicated to the prevention of vaccine injuries and deaths through public education and to defending the informed consent ethic in medicine. . . .
Pinterest has gone 1 step further. . . They have blocked all 'vaccination' related searches. Pinterest also has banned any alternative or natural cures, stating them as misinformation;
This is Cong. Posey (FL) responding to facebook exec Mark Zuckerberg's either censorship of vaccine info or considering censoring - I can't tell. This is important - it's what media is doing with info, and the questions Posey asks at the end are key, ie Zuckerberg should not be making medical decisions for people.
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Beverly
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I wonder if we could have a vaccine page here on Lymenet? It’s terrible that all these sites are censoring important information.
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Keebler
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- Beverly,
The reference page you requested is here - it's not designed so much for comments but, rather, as a place to find organized links to the top resources.
It's a links set to learn more at those sites and keep up with new details, a place you can find answers to many questions from those who have a good handle on all the aspects:
"The U.S. has the world's most aggressive vaccine schedule. This has not given our county the world's healthiest children. We are one of the sickest in the developed world."
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