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Lymetoo
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Linda, I'm really not sure. I don't know why it wouldn't be OK.

I'm not an MD ... just little ole ME! [Smile]

Good list from your doctor. All of those are good.

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I want to thank everyone who has tried to help me the past few months. I know I can be a pain, lol but man, I feel so sick and the anxiety is just horrible. I have decided to go with the new doctor/nurse practioner who seems to know what she is talking about. I have ordered the supplement list and should be getting them in a few days. I just wish when I woke up I felt like the "old me". it has been so long I am forgetting who the old me is. The sweating and off balance stuff is my main issue along with this anxiety and terrible headaches all the time. I wish I could find relief from it. My head feels like its in a vice all the time. I am not going to take the plaquinel as she told me not too. I will keep you updated and again, thank you so much, I appreciate all the posts.
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these are the supplements that I just received. Vital Liver support.
Boswella-tumeric complex
natural vitality Calm powder
Carlson Cod Liver Oil=liquid

I have started a few of them. new llnp said to start with one, wait a few days and then do another. any thoughts on this? No milk thistle, correct, here

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she said to do them for three weeks and then start with ONE DROP OF ABABS FOR A FEW DAYS THEN KEEP ADDING TO IT UNTIL I GET TO 20 drops per day. She said NO plaquinal for RA. So the only meds I will be on is ABABS???? does this sound right., doesn't seem to be enough lyme medication.
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Boswellia-tumeric complex is comparable to Milk Thistle.

That combination is excellent for liver support and has good antioxidants for your brain and your entire body. Should help reduce some inflammation and, thereby, helping to reduce some of the pain.

Think of Boswellia as a broom to sweep out all the gunk, so to speak.

natural vitality Calm powder is basically your magnesium

Carlson Cod Liver Oil=liquid -- for Omega-3 fatty acids that help your nerve fibers and brain, many other organs & functions.
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While this article refers to its help with cancer treatment, see the parts that explain its benefits for other issues.

https://draxe.com/boswellia/

Boswellia - By Dr. Josh Axe

Excerpts:

. . . 1. Lowers Inflammation . . . .

. . . 2. Reduces Joint and Arthritis Pain . . . .

. . . 4. Speeds Up Healing From Infections . . . .

. . . 5. Helps Prevent Autoimmune Disease . . . Boswellia interferes with autoimmune disease development, since it seems to help control the production of immunoglobulins, or antibodies, which are made by the immune system to fight potential threats: bacteria, viruses, fungi and toxins. . . .


PubMed Search of Medical Literature:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Boswellia

Boswellia - 525 Medical Abstracts


Look at the full name for the Boswellia you have and then you can search further for articles and abstracts on that strain. the Dr. Axe article discusses somewhat the differences in strains. The second word in most herbs is key to the specifics when you do your research / reading.
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For now, yes, I agree that your LLNP's advice is well suited for where you are at this place and time. I think it's excellent advice for the items she's just started you on and there is a very good chance that these will work very well for your body.

I would not add to it at all. Keep her instructions as given.

In three weeks' time if you can follow the LLNP advice to the letter - exactly and with good self-care / sleep/ nutrients -- with this new set of supplements, my guess is that you should notice a nice bit of turn around and relief.

These are not "just" supplements, actually. It's clear that this combination has been well chosen for many reasons. There are antimicrobial & other healing properties in these supplements along with the key function: lower inflammation and "move out the trash" so to speak.

I was amazed how how fantastic Boswellia helped me feel many years ago. Glad to be reminded of it again. Like a good friend, indeed, it was to me.
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linda, outstanding advice was given by Keebler.

One thing to consider. This is just an example I'm giving here...….The doc wants you to work up to 20 drops BUT you might be one of those people that can't get to 20 drops because you react badly.

So give you body time to catch up and handle and work your way up to 20 if possible.

In other words you may be on a slower track. That's ok.

Pam

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Pam makes great point. Remember, though, the drops are not to be used during the next 3 weeks.

It's important to have that 3 weeks - 21 full days - without the challenge of the drops. And when you are done with the first 21-day segment, do keep to exact instructions, drop by drop.

Do not speed it up. If as you progress to added drops, if it's too rough, cut it back down for a while. It's true that some people cannot get to the higher dose. Don't push it.

And by then you might be back in touch with your LLNP.

You nor she will know exactly what the step after the drops will be until you are nearer there. It all depends on how you are doing. For now, please be exact with the these first two segments of your action plan.

Be sure to also get enough good water throughout the day.

And take note as to dosage and number of times used for the supplements. good luck.
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thank you very much for all this information. I have started the supplements, very carefully. Can I be herxing on them? The reason I am asking is I feel like crap, not better, but didn't expect to feel better this soon. I am on NO ABS at all, just working up to all these supplements and then in another week or so, start the ABABS.
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sorry just reread what I wrote above, meant to say I am not on an antibiotics or herbal meds at this time.
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You are taking - only:

Boswella - tumeric complex

natural vitality Calm powder

Carlson Cod Liver Oil=liquid

You ask if these will cause a herxheimer reaction.

Unlikely. While some of these hold a bit of antimicrobial properties, starting out at a low dose and building up to even a regular dose is not likely strong enough to clobber bad boy microbes.

The way they help is more like -- influencing the bad boy microbes to just knock it off, move along and straighten up - so to speak. They help your body to do the work.

However, if you take to much turmeric you might get some upset stomach. Best to take it with food. That works better for me so I don't get burp back.

About "feeling like crap,not better"

Even in this 3 weeks before your plan shifts a bit, you might get a sense that this nourishment is helping and it's a bit easier to manage.

Your food, your rest, gentle movement, ability to enjoy something - anything - that brings you a bit of interest or diversion . . . those are things in addition to the support herbs that can help.

There may be some foods in your life that would be best to avoid and others great to embrace.

Green Tea would go well with what you are doing - organic is best.

Be sure to get enough but not too much water and eat enough good food to ensure good regular bowel movements. This is vital to helping move out the gunk at natural speed..

The magnesium will help with that. If it causes gut / bowel upset, cut back on it.

Magnesium should help ease body tension a bit but it's not going to be like a fun ride at Disney world kind of high.

Food is key. I don't know what you are able to conjure up in your kitchen or entice family /friends to make for you . . .

what chores or other tasks that might be hard that maybe you could get some help with to help lighten your load . . .

Getting out in the daylight for 20 minutes first thing in the a.m. with no glasses, contact lenses or windows between your eyes and the daylight (not necessarily sunshine,

*** although sun on your skin - with no creams or lotions - for 20 minutes early in a.m. or later in day is vital, too.

*** IF you have not been on doxyclycline in the past month or two. IF so, keep your skin out of the sun. Doxy and sun do not mix, even for a while after stopping it. ***


The support herbs are there for support. They work in gentle ways and it will take time. I hope that you can at least feel some sense that you are nourished and nurturing the cells in your body and putting down - bit by bit - a foundation.

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Soothing yet energizing in a gentle manner:

https://www.internet-radio.com/station/celticmoonlive/

Celtic Moon - stream
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I think this interview will help put a lot into perspective and give you hope. There are some parts here that will really resonate with you.


https://ruvid.net/video/episode-22-healing-lyme-with-stephen-harrod-buhner-oIRzVI5vdb8.html

Better Health Guy's page but not able to stop and start, so,

at YouTube where you can stop and start and note where to pick up again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIRzVI5vdb8

Episode #22: Healing Lyme with Stephen Harrod Buhner (master herbalist)

1:08:45 . . . April 18, 2017

Great interview by Scott (aka The Better Health Guy).

He suggests for babesia: focus first and foremost on cyrptolepis.

Ashwagandha the #1 important herb for immune modulation and to help encourage sleep.


http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/115218

CRYPTOLEPIS sanguinolenta


https://primalherb.com/how-to-restore-the-immune-system-with-ashwagandha/

Ashwagandha - Primal Herb -- just a start to the research.

Be sure to get all of Buhnner's books.
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In that interview are many things specifically for you. 1. Within a few days you should feel better, with some relief. He says that is very important in his approach.

Also how these herbs work. It's very easy to listen to and gain a better understanding. Getting his books will help, too, but I just think that hearing that interview will be a help.
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Linda

This is the Lyme Bible written by a top LLMD that also had Lyme disease.

http://www.lymenet.org/BurrGuide200810.pdf

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