tricia386
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Hi All-
I am looking for some Myco natural treatments.
Both my IGG and IGM came back SKY high!
I have SIBO/Gut Dybosis/histamine issues bad right now and I am worrying about taking more antibiotics and messing more stuff up in my gut.
Anyone ever treat with herbs or use AMYCO?
-------------------- Lyme activated in April 2010 by gardasil vaccine. DX: Lyme,Babs,Myco,Bart 11/10 Treatment Started: 3/28/11 Posts: 1752 | From Albany, NY | Registered: Dec 2010
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bcb1200
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Look into Nutramedix products. Here is a link for some anti-microbials which target Myco (read the description for each one which specifies which microbes):
Keebler
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- Adding to the list of options:
Leslie Taylor, ND's formula, MYCO from -----
(brain fade, I will be back after a rest with new link to find that line of herbs from the Amazon region.) -
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Keebler
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while it may be more cost effective to buy the individual ingredients in powder and mix - then mix in water and drink, my experience with Raintree's Spiro formula and with other dry herbs is that they are often FAR too strong and hard to swallow or "stomach".
I suggest at least starting off with capsules or tinctures for any herbal formula other than for slippery elm or marshmallow root powder, both of which are soothing to mucous membranes.
Book: Healing Lyme Disease Coinfections: Complementary and Holistic Treatments for Bartonella and Mycoplasma
Paperback – May 5, 2013
by Stephen Harrod Buhner
[my own words] devotes 350 pages in this book to the matter of mycoplasma(s).
I find it an excellent learning source as well as resource to look up various aspects of infection properties / actions as well as herbal detail.
Regardless of the protocol or approach undertaken, this book is really rather "required" reading to gain a good understanding, like all his other works, really, I've found.
It's compelling reading, too, even in small segments / short bits of time. -
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Keebler
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- more bits from my notes -- some time ago so check for any updates.
Q: . . . was wondering if you think it would be beneficial to add Raintree’s Myco product into the lyme protocol to help eradicate mycoplasmas that may co-exist? . . .
Stephen’s response - February 22, 2012
It can’t hurt to use it and I have heard from a few people that it has helped.
Q: . . . I have both babesia and mycoplasma can I treat them together with a combination of cryptolepis/artemisia annua, serrapeptase, eleutheroccocus and the myco formula?
Stephen’s response:
Yes, you can treat them this way, however, I would highly suggest you add sida acuta to the mix as it is crucial for both myco and babesia and I would use that rather than the cryptolepis for that reason.
It is essential, with mycoplasma, that you add some fairly strong herbs or supplements to reduce the inflammatory cytokines they produce, specifically EGCG, NAC, and Japanese knotweed.
It is also crucial to use herbs to protect the proteoglycans in the body, I would suggest beginning with glucosamine sulfate.
And finally, you need to add the following nutrients: fish oil or equivalent (must contain oleic if possible), multi-vitamins, l-arginine (but not if have herpes) and a broad grouping of amino acids.
Mycoplasma scavenges nutrients from host cells and many of its symptoms are caused by nutrient depletion. If you don’t replace what it is using you basically end up suffering various forms of nutrient depletion.
There are some sites that strongly recommend NOT using any of these nutrients, they are terribly misguided. The research is plain on this one, if the nutrients are resupplied, the symptom picture decreases.
My complete updated protocol for mycoplasma is due to be published this May. My suggestions here will cover the basics and will help reduce problems.
PLEASE NOTE: If you have active herpes, chicken pox, or shingles DO NOT USE L-arginine.
Both mycoplasma and bartonella can cause cranial nerve palsy. In fact it is somewhat common in mycoplasma. . . . (cont'd at link) -
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Keebler
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- tricia,
Many LLMDs know about mycoplasmas and some of those offer suggestions for herbal options in their books (see Dr. H's book, etc.)
A truly LL ND would also know about mycoplasmas. Call to inquire, though, as to the depth of knowledge and ability to offer treatment.
For those considering complementary support methods / or other avenues entirely -- whether for lyme or any of the other tick-borne infections -- or other chronic stealth infections that are often in the mix:
Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.
BOOKS - Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
knowing which methods offer assertive & direct impact, which are only support and which are both. And when to use what, how to combine, & when to step back.
You can compare and contrast many approaches with links to articles, books, methods . . . -
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Keebler
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- Seems reasonable to also consider when learning about options:
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