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Charles12
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He gave this presentation at ILADS.

https://hormonerestoration.com/files/BABESIA%20ODOCOILEI%20LINDNER.pdf

The short of it, he doesn't think that Babesia Duncani exists on the East Coast, and that people are sick with Odocoilei instead. Duncani doesn't exist in ticks submitted to the state of PA for testing, but Odocoielei does. It was not known to infect people, but he drew blood samples from a patients tissue that had Odocoilei in it, so it appears it does.


Odocoilei is a problem, because it evades the immune system by generating incredible excess fibrin growth. This fibrin coats and shields the infected blood cells, creating a safe environment for them where they are shielded from the immune system. These fibrin covered cells accumulate in your capillaries, and reduce if not block blood flow, which is probably why people have fatigue issues, and exercise intolerance. These clots also result in chronic inflammation.

His solution, besides heavy doses of combined antimalarial therapy, is adding fibrin dissolving enzymes, like Lumbrokinase and Nattokinase to patients treatment protocols. These dissolve the clots, and allow the drugs to reach the infected cells.

Oddly enough it appears that Lumbrokinase was popular on this forum ten years ago, and it was used as a cyst busting drug. Although it doesn't appear that doctors understood the babesia angle.

The fibrin issue could also explain chronic Bartonella, because Bartonella can do the same thing, albeit to a lesser degree.


These fibrin dissolving agents do result in truly serious herxes though.

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I heard a LC doc say that Lumbrokinase was safer to take as far as clotting goes. As in, if you get cut.

It is interesting in that seems like some medical stuff circles around and gets renamed. I am dating myself now, but this was all called "hypercoagualtion" in the late 90's early 2000's. With extra fibrin, etc. I went on low dose heparin twice a day. I ended up getting tired of shots twice a day but sure loved how I felt while on heparin.

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