SunRa
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hey everyone!
First, I want to express my deepest gratitude to GiGi for all her informative posts and for leading me to an excellent ART practitioner!
I've been on abx for almost 7 mos and have only been getting worse - I have not been in a good state for quite a while. My instincts have been telling me there's something else there that needs to be addressed as well as the Lyme. (Actually quite a few things as I found out.....)
oh gosh, where to begin?!?!
There's no way I could ever write down all that I experienced in the many hours I spent with this healer, but I will say I'm absolutely fascinated and inspired by all this!
After addressing a few important blockages, he found many things I didn't know I had. One of the reasons I haven't responded to abx is because I have Babesia. I had suspected this, but never tested positive on blood tests.
I also have some heavy metals which are creating a comfortable environment for the bacteria and viruses. And I have NO amalgam fillings and never ate much fish! The metals that showed up - Nickel and Platinum -are mainly dental ones from the braces I had years ago and from a retainer..nevertheless, they are messing with me bigtime and he's putting me on a chlorella detox to help clear them out.
Like everyone else, I also have my share of parasites and viruses...also creating a nice comfy living environment for the lyme.
I also tested positive for allergies to soy, corn, wheat, and one i am not happy about - chocolate...GRRR There are probably more, but these are the main ones. I can deal with the others, but like most women, I need my chocolate! He says that usually once you get rid of the main problems, the food allergies will fade too. whew!
He used Direct Resonance Testing to find out exactly where the Lyme is hiding and for me, it seems to be everywhere - my brain, liver, heart, kidneys, etc geez.....
After figuring out what my major and minor problems were, he was able to come up with a gentle, natural protocol that works with my body. I havent figured it all out yet, but I'll most likely use his protocol as well as some abx.
He told me more about what's going on in my body in one day that would only take years and more expensive (and less accurate) testing to find. Meanwhile, I'd probably be getting sicker and sicker!
I learned that another essential aspect to healing is addressing all unresolved emotional issues. Using ART he was able to pinpoint these issues and using psycho-neurobiology and family systems therapy, we worked through them. Through muscle testing he was even able to tell I had unresolved issues with an ex-boyfriend (without me ever saying anything!)
I also encourage everyone to look up Bert Hellinger's work on family systems therapy. Setting up these family constellations was so intense, I was really blown away by it! There are so many things going on with each one of us that need to be addressed in order to truly heal...things we have chosen to stay blind to, or things that we don't even know about.
I know this still won't be easy and it will take lots of time and patience in order to get back to a "normal" life, but at least I now know what I need to address. ART elimates having to guess about what to do next...now I feel like I have a good, solid plan! I'm very positive about all this and wanted to share it with you all.
~ I wish you all peace, love, and wellness ~
------------------ "When the world looks like ruin and rubble and Hardship, heartache and trouble seem like all you've ever known You've got to remember the power of flowing water to smooth the stone."
SunRa
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Nancy - we registered the same time and have the exact same # of posts! (well we DID)...I'm winning now
ART = Autonomic Response Testing
If you do a search with ART and GiGi's name, you find tons of posts on it.
Li1dreamer - I'm so happy I took this step too, good luck with your appt!!
aaronkatie - hi, sorry I haven't been around much lately...how are you doing??? I've thought about you a lot and I hope you are feeling a bit better!
I probably won't go back to him for a while since he's far from me, but I think we'll communicate over the phone for right now. We covered as much as he would usually do in a few appts in just one day, so i'm set for a bit!
He wrote up a protocol for me to start on, but I haven't gotten all the products yet. I don't have it with me, but here's what I can remember: chlorella and something else for the metals, cinchona bark (quinine) for the babesia, mullein leaf, heavy duty probiotics, milk thistle (i think for my liver fluke "friends"), and some other things I can't remember! I'll probably do the mepron as well.
just out of curiosity, do you know your blood type? I've been really interested in Peter D'Adamo's theories, and I happen to be allergic to some things on my "bad" list for B's but I'm surprisingly ok with dairy, which only B's are supposed to have. Most people can't tolerate soy...but maybe you're A blood? just wondering!
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SunRa, glad to hear of your positive ART experience. What does of chlorella are you taking per day? Are you taking Alpha Liopic acid simultaneously?
Many of us had orthodontics and were unaware of the associated metals issues. Kinda scary, eh?
Does Insurance cover this type of treatment usually??I sure hope so, it could be really benificial to see one ..
It really sounds like you have made a great choice SunRa and I am very happy you are so excited , I do believe we have to know and address all the stuff thats going on too. It all seems linked together to keep us not well..
GiGi.. Sunra.. or anyone else who knows of an ART Practitioner in GA , I would really love to know that info... Please either email me or just post it if you see this.I would so appreciate it, Thanks..
Sandi
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Sweet Sunra, Leave it to you to worry about how i'm feeling!!! Same old stuff with me but maybe i'm just impatient!!
Its nice that you and the doc scheduled the appt for as long as you could and realized you couldn't just come back whenever so he did so much with you. Sounds very very productive. I'm so happy for you.
His protocol sounds really good, I also drink the chlorella (always spell wrong) and some cilantro water with herbs for babesia - then lyme, then bartonella then erlichia then epstein barr, chronic mono along with metal toxicity, systemic candida, and all the others you mentioned!
The blood type thing is interesting, I think but wouldn't quote me on this that it is B+ for both me and the kids - so does that make sense for the milk allergies??
I feel so bad - i'm allergic to EVERYTHING, then between the two of them they are allergic to everything.
Well sweet sunra it is 4 am and i'm a bit sleepy so i'll end for now, i'm sooo happy for you!!! Please take care of you and listen to the new doc!! love, betsy
SunRa
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Melanie thanks for the well wishes!
Lymelight I haven't gotten it yet, but I think he wants me to take 1 tbl. 3X/day...not sure how much that is in terms of grams or mgs. He didn't say to take ALA with it, but I take fish oil that has ALA in it...is that beneficial with the chlorella?
sandi Unfortunately insurance doesn't cover this! I haven't really thought about how I'm gonna pay for all this yet, but I'm trying not to worry about that part yet I don't know of any in GA, but I'm sure there is someone around you. You may want to email GiGi.
betsy sounds like you have a lot to address as well! have you noticed a difference taking the chlorella and cilantro? You're taking abx as well as the herbs right? does it feel like too much to handle? haha, sorry for all the questions...I'm just trying to decide if I should take a break from the abx and just do his protocol for a bit, or if I should stay on the abx as well. I may do the mepron treatment soon too - but I proabbly shouldnt start all these new things at once. hmmm, now I'm just thinking out loud.
sorry you and your kids are allergic to everything! But my ART dr says those allergies should fade once the major problems are addressed....so I hope they eventually go away for you!
As far as the bloodtype stuff goes, I'm B too and we're supposed to have the most balanced diet including meat and dairy...in fact we're the only blood type that needs dairy. As far as B's who are allergic to it, he found once they fixed the major problems in their diets, they were able to tolerate the dairy.
I wish I were A though b/c I've been a vegetarian for years then vegan...even though I've been eating well for a vegan and getting all my protein, I never felt well on it (and B's are supposedly very susceptible to nervous system disorders when they don't follow the diet). I just recently started eating some dairy and fish and I think my body loves it.
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Sunra, Wow, sounds like you were put thru the ringer too, though!! I havent started the cilantro and chlorella yet - i go to my llmd tomorrow and will discuss with him - i'll probably start it tomorrow night. He will keep me on the mepron/zith combo if i want to be kept on it. But I want to add Iv claforan for bartonella and i doubt he'll do that so well see.
The allergies should fade with the lyme treatment, hopefully, but i'll believe it when i see it.
I don't mind eating for my blood type, mepron and zith and eating fat and veggies are pretty much all i can eat!!!
Anyway, its like 1:40 in the morning and i'm still asleep so i'll end here - take care Sunra- glad to know you are in one piece like ali and myself you know?
GiGi
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I have just a minute before I go on a long trip.
So there be no misunderstanding, even though SunRa tested for doing a certain type of abx along with all the other remedies/herbs, etc., that does not mean that the same thing will apply to every person. Another person might not test well for any of the products singly or in combination and therefore there is no use to take them because they will not be effective and just stress the body and keep one from healing.
Following ART testing, one should only take the medications and remedies that were tested on the body in the combination they were tested. If SunRa went into a Yin stat(healing state) with the total remedies tested together, that will work for her. It will work for a certain length of time and possibly not longer. So one should be tested for the meds at least every 4-6 weeks. And of course stop them right away or contact the ART practitioner when you don't feel well when taking them. There is no such thing as a gigantic herx as many of you describe. You may have a brief 1-2 day "healing crisis", which you could have even following a homeopathic remedy. But no such "killing" episodes or "rage" situations, or "head pressure" that you feel you should go to a hospital, as we have heard about on this board. These things just do not happen when the medications are tested with ART - if it tests well - your body is in agreement and will utilize the remedy for healing.
Further, I want to point out, that without a good complete protein cover, people have trouble healing. Most people can't do it on a veggie diet, because it is so difficult to put a complete protein together. Some tribes somewhere in some corner of the world can. As my doctor told me many times, he has not seen it happen among any of his patients. Protein is an absolute must. I averaged 4 eggs a day and my cholesterol dropped 20 points in one months, for those people that still believe in the cholesterol myth.
So going on an ART protocol and thinking that this might work for the next couple of years does not work. Anytime the intake of a remedy causes organs to work harder, eventually the body wants this remedy no longer and turns "allergic". That's why it should be tested frequently. And that's one reason why so many on antibiotics or any other remedy start to go on standstill; you make no progress. Remedies need to be changed right along as your body changes. ART testing will give the proper answer and there is no guessing.
I wish all of you could find access to ART (autonomic response testing). ART II, which is covers the Direct Resonance Testing, is a must. That way you can find out exactly where the microorganisms are sitting, where the metals are sitting - inside the cells! No other method of muscle testing via a machine or manual will reveal that. With ART you will know exactly what is hiding inside the cells as well as outside (intracellularly and extracellularly). The metals may have left a long time from the extracellular space, but are sitting still inside the cells and are slowly killing you. The same for all the Lyme bugs, parasites, viruses, etc.
Til some other day. Get well.
I noticed someone asked for one in Georgia. Best way - ask in your health food store or wellness clinics. I am ready to hop to the airport now.
Hope all of you feel a ton better when I come back.
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GiGi
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And one more thing:
No one can get well without clearing unresolved emotional conflicts. No one. That's most likely one of the reasons we got sick in the first place. I am saying that with 100% certainty. It's a major part of healing - and there is no way around it. The method of doing that may differ, but it needs to be addressed as much or more than metals or anything else. Lyme is only the straw that broke the camel's back. A lot went before that. Just give think about it for a while when you have a quiet hour. We are not aware of many of these conflicts that make us sick in the long run. I am glad, SunRa, that you feel the same way. and I am even more glad that ART takes care of these conflicts in such a beautiful and brief way. It takes minutes rather than hours.
We need to heal on all levels before we can really be well. No one of all the seriously ill patients that I have met have been able to get well without addressing the unresolved emotional conflicts. (in ART it is called Psychokinesiology or short PK and works like a charm). You might find a broader explanation on mercola.com or search ART on the internet.
Take care.
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SunRa
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yeah, I should have mentioned that - after trying many different remedies, the ART dr finally found the combination that works for me when I went into a deep Yin healing state. But like all medicines, herbs, etc., what may work for me won't necessarily work for another.
GiGi - thanks for reminding me that I have to be tested frequently...since I can't go to NJ very often, I'm looking into another ART dr closer who will work with me on Vern's suggestions...although I can't find anyone who does ART II. I wish he were closer!!
Again, I strongly encourage everyone to do this - I'm really blown away by it all!
------------------ "When the world looks like ruin and rubble and Hardship, heartache and trouble seem like all you've ever known You've got to remember the power of flowing water to smooth the stone."
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