"Successful control and elminiation of a Candida Albicans overgrowth requires a multifaceted program as described below. Failure to follow ALL the steps simultaneously will result in slow progress and will lengthen healing time significantly. The program should be tailored to the individual and must balance the need to eliminate the Candida and deprive it of its food source while insuring proper nutrition for the individual."

Five Steps to Candida Elimination:

1. You must starve it into submission by eliminating its food source.

2. You must kill it with anti-fungal herbs and supplements. [e.g....garlic, onion, caprylic acid, Pau D'Arco capsules or tea, clove, grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, tea tree oil, Echinacea, Goldenseal, black walnut, MSM, barberry root, uva ursi, neem leaf, biotin]

3. You must reestablish the proper balance and quantity of probiotic bacteria in the digestive tract. [...multi-strain lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidus capsules with FOS should be taken between meals to maximize repopulation of the digestive tract by beneficial bacteria.]

4. You must reestablish proper levels of all B vitamins (yeast free) and utilize other immune enhancing supplements to boost immune system function. [e.g ... B complex vitamins (yeast free), biotin, beta 1-3 glucan, colostrum, maitake mushroom, vitamins A, C, E, zinc and selenium]

5. You must cleanse and heal the digestive tract to promote proper elimination of toxins and Candida and assimilation of nutrients. [e.g...chlorophyll, MSM, omega 3 fatty acids found in flax seed and salmon oils, GLA found in borage, evening primrose and black currant oils. Pantothenic acid, digestive enzymes between meals]

Foods safe to eat:

breads .. low carb breads by Atkins, low carb and Ezekiel breads by Food for Life, low carb tortillas, brown rice bread, low carb pasta and noodles

vegetables of color .. green, yellow, red, purple, etc... like squash, broccoli, cabbage, kale, bok choy, sweet potatoes, celery, spinach, romaine lettuce, collard greens, broccoli slaw, brown rice, basmati rice, millet

olive oil, lemon, organic apple cider vinegar, garlic, onion, limit to 1 oz sugar-free dressing daily

eggs, plain yogurt [NO sugar or fruit added], small amounts of butter, UNsweetened soy milk, Keto milk, kefir

chicken, fish, and turkey, baked or broiled, not fried

Snacks....seeds and nuts...pumpkin seeds, celery with almond butter, almonds, walnuts, unsweetened soy butter, roasted soy nuts

Fruits...Granny Smith apples, lemons, limes....fresh or frozen only

Beverages....WATER, herbal teas like Pau D'Arco, Echinacea, and aloe vera

FOODS TO AVOID:

Sugars: white sugar, honey, aspartame, equal, brown sugar, corn syrup, molasses, most fruits, canned fruits and fruit juices, syrups, soft drinks, cakes, cookies, chocolate

White flour breads and products: hot dog buns, hamburger buns, bread sticks, crackers, whole wheat breads, prepared foods with bread crumb coating, noodles, pasta

white veggies: potatoes, white rice, grits, also corn and all canned vegetables

alcohol and fermented foods, including soy sauce and cider, ginger ale, beer, wine, vinegar, sauerkraut, pickles, relishes, most dressings

dairy products....milk, cheese, ice cream, flavored yogurt

red meats, pork, bacon, sandwich meats, salami, bologna, hot dogs, sausage, etc

peanuts, peanut butter, pistachios

all other fresh and canned fruits and fruit juices not on the "safe" list

Beverages: colas, sodas, fruit juices, pop, sugared drinks, coffee, or caffeinated teas and drinks, fruit punch, etc

I tried doing this. At the same time I was trying to chase away the yeast, I was having some allergy testing done and found I was allergic to several foods. My doctor wanted to put me on an elimination diet. Most of the foods that I was showing allergic reactions to were the safe foods!!!! Chicken, kale and water were fast becoming my only source of nutrition!!!! It was pathetic!

You always have such good informationa nd I am not one to debate with you or anyone else......

But me having a huge Candida problem with 2 huge treatments (ICHT) that can leave you with more of a problem with candida than you started with.....

This is where my doctor (a pathologist) started. Mega dose's of enzymes (the right ones) UVBI treatments and vit C and multivitamins.

This last (and first Chelation) one week ago has left me with a MASSIVE vaginal yeast infection.

This tells me to stay away from things that kill off bacteria and stick with detox and the way I originaly was going.

Far infared is the next and only thing I do at this next office visit. I am so mad I am in the position of this vaginal yeast infection when all I had to do was listen to GiG....I did not have to do Chelation treatment at this time.....

It only throws you back when you do not do the right things at the right time.

I WAS DOING SO GOOD ON LITTLE SUPPLEMENTS AND HAD TO ROCK THE BOAT.

No one could afford or know how to put all the supplements mentioned above together. That is what I originaly found confusing.

Not that you or your doctor doesn't know what they/you are talking about but.......

If someone else finds a problem with trying to follow the above protocol/or doesn't have the money to purchase all the things mentioned above to get a Candida free life style they can first......

Get off all abx, get the right enzymes and a good protocol of vitamins & minerals to get thru their first 2-3 months.

It takes that long to see a difference and give yourself rest to see a difference in between.

It is really nice to have all of this information in one place.

Melanie

Definitely a keeper! I'm printing it out right now.

We can always count on you.

Thank you, thank you, sweetie.

bg....I think it's the mold issue with the peanuts.

The AVOID list can be relaxed SOME if your yeast is under control....but with us being on abx, we have to be very careful how much we bend the rules.

I bend the rules very little, and yet I have a major yeast problem right now. It's getting better, but I'm still going to be very strict on this thing for another week or two.

BTW, this is the Dr who first sent me to my wonderful Dr C....[I didn't know I had Lyme at that time....only that I needed help with a yeast problem!] Dr C is this naturopath's doctor! (Dr C is in family practice.)

So I am forever grateful to Dr. Brewer! I could possibly have gone the rest of my life not knowing I had Lyme.

I haven't verified this, but my mold doctor told me that tofu might be a problem, and if so, then so is unsweetened soy milk. (Too bad. I can't drink cow's milk.)

Provolone and mozarella for cheese supposedly OK. No romano, asiago, parmesan. There are 3 kinds of rennet: veg, animal, and microbial. The last can be fungal (maybe aspergillus) or bacterial. So try to find out how cheese is made if you do that.

frenchbraid

Not all breads contain yeast, there are yeast-free ones. However, if soy isn't safe then perhaps low-carb bread isn't either as I think much of it is soy-based.

Also, other yeast-free breads still made with flour will not be low-carb - so then there's still the issue with high-carb = blood sugar = yeast problem.

I know when I did yeast-free I was told no bread of any kind.....but life did get dull with just fish/meat and salad without dressing (or any dressing contaning vinegar anyway).

Anyway, excellent list, I will print it out also although I'm not doing yeast-free yet.

Yeast/fungi is an agent the body employs to protect itself from the heavy metals - in other words, to protect you yourself from worse. The trouble is - the fungi also give off toxins during their cycler that cause an added burden to your body.

The only permanent solution to candida etc. is to get the metal toxicity out of the body, and thereby also protect your major organs from high LDL cholesterol, which is also due to heavy metal toxicity.

You can try all the yeastbook diets until the cows come home - it will not work longterm as long as you are heavy metal toxic. Sorry, folks.

You must add good bacteria back into your diet, not just try to kill all of the yeast. Yeast loves sugar so, that has to go. Starve the little suckers and then add in some good probiotics and perhaps some soil based beneficial bacteria.

You also need to clear out the dead yeast, as we do the dead chetes. Psyllium, bentonite and charcoal are just a few of the ways to clear out the dead debris.

You must also heal the leaky gut with things like L-Glutamine and good digestive enzymes.

Lymetoo's post is pretty much right on target. I had severe Systemic Candida. It took a year to get it to a manageable level. I do not have heavy metals, have always tested below normal levels. My Candida is the result of oral antibiotics.

I suggest you experiment with the suggested supplements. Oil of Oregano made me sick as a dog but, Caprylic Acid worked like a charm, as did GSE. You are not expected to take all of these things. Everyone is different.

Patience and diet diligence will bring results.

My doc wants me to try Nystatin and he is a naturopath! He already has me on Oil of O. and others Metagenics berberine, which helped and IV C drips. I also have Lyme and debating oral IV as I am chronic and just found out I had it for probably 10 yrs.

What do you think about trying Nystatin? I am also scheduled to get my 10 amalgams out, but don't know whether I should do the amalgams or the abx first.

Any advice?

Thanks!

I am taking PB8 on and off, but don't really think it is helping.

I've tried Three lac and think it was helping, but Iwas going through other problems and think I had H-Pylori and an ulcer which I thought was cured with Mastic Gum but I have that pain under my loeft rib again the last few days and think it's back. Not sure if I should do the antibiotic route for H-Pylori or stick with the Mastic Gum.

Anyway, have any of you done Primal Defense, Three Lac or Florastore for any length of time and saw results?

Thanks!

We have had great success with them.

frenchbraid

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Originally posted by mycoplasma1:

I am taking PB8 on and off, but don't really think it is helping.

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"On and off" is the problem, I would say. I take PB8 and have taken Nystatin "forever."

GIGI ... what's this EM? Source? and How does it work?

Note the remark on that thread someone made about the last ingredient being sugar. EM is a fermented product that contains n o sugar. It is
a super product, a probiotic, for everyone, not just sick people to use. It brings back all the good bacteria that has been massacred in various ways by drugs, etc.

For Chris, We used Pharmax's HCL, the intensive, which is a highly concentrated probiotic (seven sachets in a box - use one daily) You use HCL for a week or two and then go to their regular probiotic. Medicine Man in Seattle sells it at discount 206-789-0800. It is very potent.

I took Nystatin for about 3 days and then tossed it. It caused intolerable effects for me (and many people I know that tried it). I never took it again, but stuck with Pharmax products that worked well for us.

But for the minimal cost, be sure to explore EM - see above website.

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Originally posted by cigi:
How can you tell if you have a yeast problem if you have no visible symptoms.

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candida species, when in the bloodstream, can colonize everywhere from the kidneys, the respiratory tract or sinus cavities.

you can have a candidiasis panel by pcr done at MDL which checks a multitude of candida strains, test # 565. http://www.mdlab.com/html/testing/available_tests.html#mycology

additionaly have a dysbiosis test (d-arbintol levels) at metametrix. http://www.metametrix.com/TestServ/default.asp?PageID=10

d-arbinatol is not good for more immunosuppresive, fluconazole (diflucan) resistant candida strains like candida krusei or candida glabrata.

if you have taken diflucan, or any azole medication before, you are more likely to have one of these more 'exotic' strains.

check out this link for more info - http://www.biodia.com/test228.html

most doctors are unaware that a candida infection, by IDSA guidelines, should be treated until the infection is absent from blood serum for at least 2 weeks plus clincial symptoms are gone before stopping antifungal therapy.
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/CID/journal/issues/v38n2/32301/32301.html

see table 2 in latter link.

you may have to see an ID specialist to treat this if you have positive test returns and your dr doesn't know how to treat this.

you can also have barium testing or endoscopic testing done to see where the infection is but i would hold off on that and do blood serology first as that more invasive.

like chronic lyme borreliosis infection, systemic candidiasis is not widely known nor accepted by most md's. it is not thoroughly taught or often seen, hence a specialist may be needed.

most of the information out there (specifically via the internet) is completely unsubstantiated and unreliable concerning the symptoms of candidiasis.

i can only recommend doing the testing and see what develops from there.

I've been doing abx tx because I was so bad and could barely walk. Amalgams are next...it depends where your at.

My personal feeling is to deal with amalgams first and remember to detox mercury out of your system. Parasites are very attracted to heavy metals...this is why I'm saying amalgams first.

Three Lac and Primal Defense are very good yeast fighters. Three Lac I've tried and it was very effective. Both these companies as I recall make a very good acidophilus or probiotic (can't remember which one).

Lymetoo, thank you for posting the diet.

Great reminder about what not to eat and especially good for new members who may not have this info.

I follow this diet 90% strict and when I don't I sure feel it.

I have been using the anti candida food lists from www.wholeapproach.com. The diet is working very well for me.

I don't eat any breads, pasta, tortillas, flours, grains regardless of whether they have yeast or are sprouted. I simply can't eat grains period. I do eat red meat and feel better when I do. I limit fish consumption because of mercury concerns.

Primal Defense Powder has been a great probiotic for me. I take it every afternoon and before bed. Sometimes I have some in the late morning at least 2 hours after abx. I mix it in a little yogurt or kefir, or sprinkle it on a salad.

I ordered it at www/iherb.com which was recommended here. The container lasts 2 months for me. Well worth the $31. Doesn't need refrigeration so good for travel.
h&s

Why does this guy say that chicken and fish are okay, but red meat is not? AS long as the protein is organic grass fed it should be okay. I think making sure that it is organic is the most important thing so that we are not ingesting mycotoxins from animals that have been given abx. I thought I was doing good by eating boneless/skinless chicken breasts from Costco untill I found out about mycotoxins. No sense in putting these yeast toxins back into your body when that is what you are trying to get rid of.

Does this Dr have any recommendations for the herbal supplements as far as dosage and rotation so that they remain effective against candida?

This diet is really designed for elimination of the candida. I believe you can modify it somewhat once you get things under control. For example, I might occasionally eat peas or a FEW carrots from time to time.

If I start having yeast symptoms again, I go back to the diet and get really strict.

This naturopath owns a health food store so I'm sure he just recommends what he sells! He doesn't think much of MLM's and their products. He's missing alot of good stuff with that mode of thinking!

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