I read a recent post by docdave130 and it prompted me to start thinking about this in relation to LD. I did not realize that those with LD have so many things they need to be wary of.

I just want to know if those of you who have had this done have any specific advice for me or could share your experience.

Also, I know in the past when I went to the dentist and was injected with novocaine, it always made my heart flutter, made me short of breath and made me feel dizzy. Of course, my previous dentist told me it was "all in my head." (If only I had a nickel for every time I've heard that.) Have any of you ever had this kind of reaction during a dental procedure?

Thanks for any help.

If you're going to a biological dentist, he'll test you to see what the best method for chelation is for you. I have the same problem with novacaine. I have it written on my chart- NO EPINEPHRIN. There are other local anesthetics (sp?) that can be used, they just don't last as long. My dentist has had to stop in the middle of a procedure to give me another shot. Not fun but it sure beats the alternative

Is there any specific anesthetic I should ask for or is there one that might be less toxic than others? Do you know what your dentist uses?

I am not frightened of the dentist so I guess I must be in the 10% that the aspiration and slow injection does not work for because I always have this reaction no matter how slowly they inject.

Also, I previously asked the dentist about all the procedures you mentioned (drill, suction, masks, etc.) and this dentist does use all those things.

Thanks for your help.

You know, you would think that with so many people having this kind of reaction (as evidenced by reports of people on this site alone) that when it happened to someone, they wouldn't simply say "It's all in your head." It must just be an easy out.

Wouldn't you think after so many people told them they were having reactions that the light would come on in their head? But no, that would be too easy. Oh, well.

BTW, I do not have a fear of needles, docs, etc. either but when I get that injection and become unable to breathe, it makes me a little nervous!!!

I'm also in the process of having my fillings removed. I am having to learn to have patience with the process.

I have quite a few and thought I would be able to have them out quickly. It's not working that way at all.

I'm finding I can only have so much dental work done...one at a time instead of the two I thought. My system can handle just so much.

I am also having to wait several weeks between appointments to let my body heal and adust. Then invariable something will come up and I'll have to reschedule...

So, I don't know how many you have but if you have a few it might take longer than you'd like.

It feels right to be having it done and I am looking forward to the day when I have a mouth free of mercury!!

The info I have posted over the last few years re mercury, etc. comes from a practicing physician - see www.neuraltherapy.com who has helped thousand of people detox the metals put into people by dentists who do not know any better and sadly some are still doing it today.

20some% of Canadian dentists are on disability as determined by the Canadian Government who dared take a count! That should tell you all. So be very careful - see only a biological dentist, a dentist who is aware of the utter destruction mercury causes. One of the main reasons Lyme disease can take such a hold are the mercury/heavy metals. Once I got rid of mercury and dental infections caused by them, by root canals, etc., I got rid of Lyme.

Last August, 2003 I had 12 high copper mercury amalgems removed by Dr. Hal Huggins and team in a 3.5 hr IV sedation surgery. Then I did Vit C IV detoxs & accupressure for a week with the Huggins Team. The surgery went flawlessly and I felt better 1 hour after surgery than I had in months - I actually ate steak in a restaurant 2 hrs after surgery.

I don't recommend getting one amalgem out at a time when you can do them all at once with a Bio dentist and a rubber dam, etc... and detox right away. You may do more harm than good going one at a time and "having to recover". Make sure you are going to the right dentist who knows all of this-

Thanks, Gigi for the info. I have read many of your past posts, but do not recall reading any about the testing procedures. I will have to do a search and check this out as well. I will also check out the link you sent. I am truly trying to learn as much as I can.

I love hearing that you got well. I have felt bad for so long. It is only in the past month or so that I have begun to believe that I might actually have a chance to feel like a "normal" person again or at least to feel better than I do at present.

As far as having all my fillings out at once, I would love to have it done that way. Unfortunately my insurance company will only pay a limited amount and since I have to go out of state to the LLMD and I still have questions about how much insurance will pay for this, I don't see how I could even consider it at this time. One income only goes so far (and it's never far enough).

How fortunate you were, JB, to have Dr. Huggins (someone who is an expert on this subject) for your care. I am certainly envious. I have not yet seen the new dentist that I have chosen but have spoken extensively with their office and they seem to know what they are doing. I will reserve judgment until after my visit.

Thanks for all the advice and info. I learn a little more each day. Here's hoping I can remember at least some of it!!!

I had all my fillings safely removed 18 months ago but it took 10 months in all to get them removed.

It didn't make any difference to my health at the time but I did chelate safely using Andy Cutler's protocol and alpha lipoic acid.

There wasn't much difference in my health until I had my thyroid and adrenals treated. That made an enormous difference to my health and immune system.

Now I am well and even if I still have got borrelia and co-infections in my body they are no longer making me sick.

I am convinced having all that mercury taken out and getting it out of my body and brain gave me the chance to recover my health. However without Armour plus 25 mcg T4 and 2.5 mg Prednisone I wouldn't be well. So always check out the adrenals and thyroid if you don't get the improvement you hoped for - that could be the key.

All the symptoms of underactive thyroid/adrenals are identical to those of Lymes disease and I often think on this list that many people have got adrenal and thyroid problems that aren't treated and then blaim Lyme disease.

Having my fillings removed is a personal, very very long-deliberated choice. You probably think I am "nuts" or "desperate", but that is far from the case. I have done massive amounts of research, read the "real medicine" sites and well as the "quack" sites, thought long and hard about this issue, and come to the conclusion that this is what I want to do. If I am "nuts", so be it.

Very respectfully, I say this to you. On the drcranton site, it states that it is true that there is no "good" level of mercury. It is a toxin. This is the very reason why I want the fillings gone. I have been sick for so long and I want to give my body every possible chance to heal. ANY toxin (particularly one I can get rid of or at least reduce), in my opinion, is detrimental to that chance.

The article says that tens of millions of people can live in good health and without toxic symptoms at a tolerably low level of mercury. BUT, if there is no "good" level of mercury, how can anyone possibly know what problems the mercury is causing, even if it is not readily apparent. A toxin is a toxin.

And even though those tens of millions may live okay with it, what difference does that make if you are the one person in ten million that cannot. My level of mercury may be exactly the same as someone who does tolerate it, but that does not mean my body reacts the same way as their body does.

Yes, I am a non-health professional, but I consider myself to be fairly intelligent and well-read. The neurological symptoms I have developed in the past year are what have caused me to go on a search for something to get my health back. I have many physical symptoms as well, but all the doctors I have seen have always written them off to nerves or stress or, my favorite, "in my head".

It was only after I developed the neurological symptoms that I really and truly began to realize that, yes, I did have something "not right" occurring in my body and that's when I stopped listening to the "real" doctors. I have seen a fairly reasonable number -- internal medicine, gastroenterologists, gynecologists, EENTs, etc. Every single one told me there was nothing wrong.

But they were happy to prescribe a boatload of pills. If nothing is wrong, why do I need medication. Some of them even wanted to prescribe medication without any kind of testing. Needless to say, I promptly refused all this "help." I choose not to be walking chemistry experiment.

Now, I have gone to an LLMD and finally found someone who actually listened to me and took the time to LISTEN to my symptoms and do actual tests. I have hope for the very first time ever that whatever my problem is, I have a chance at least to find it.

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "the realm of practical medicine." If you mean that all doctors who are members of the AMA are good and all people who offer alternative medicine are bad, then the only thing I can say on this is that all the "real" doctors have totally failed me so far.

What is "real" medicine anyway and who is the ultimate judge on that? Shouldn't medicine be about healing? If something heals a person, what difference does it make where or in what form that healing comes.

If "real" medicine fails, do we just sit back and feel bad forever and assume there is no help. If I get my fillings removed and the mercury out of my system, and I don't feel better, okay. Then I'll know that was not the answer and I'll move on to something else. But in any event, if mercury is a toxin, how can getting it out be a bad thing in any way.

I don't say any of this to be antagonistic or argumentative or disrespectul of you. I don't want to make you angry or upset. I am very respectful of each and everyone's opinion -- everybody has a right to believe what they believe. That's what makes us human. But nobody is right 100% of the time and no one thing works for "everybody" 100% of the time. Every thing comes down to personal choice -- hopefully educated personal choice. I always try to learn as much as I can and make the best decision for me based on both sides of the issue. For me (and me alone), this is the best choice.

I really appreciate and thank you for your help with my dental questions and value every single thing I learn. That's what it's all about.

I also recognize that some people are more easily influenced than others so I totally understand your concern. Fortunately, I am not one of the easily swayed. I am a pretty pigheaded, stubborn, and distrusting person when it comes to things not commonly known to be true.

There are also plenty of people out there willing to take advantage of the sick and desperate. It's very sad.

The main reason that I am having my amalgams out is because I seem to be so very sensitive to so many stimuli. I have MCS, photophobia, noise sensitivity and even some kind of weird vibrational sensitivity. After all the thought and research, it just makes sense to me that perhaps if I am this sensitive to all these other things, maybe I am just this sensitive to mercury and it could be causing some of these things. No matter what, in my mind, it's certainly worth a shot.

But I do thank you for your posts, your information and your concern.

Have a great rest of the day,

How many mercury fillings do you have? I get mine out tomorrow

And some I've had so long, it's hard to remember anything about them.

BUT I've also been sick for a very long time as well with no explanation.

In addition, I also have root canals and crowns, some of which are certainly nickel/non-precious. I may have to deal with those later.

Are you having all of yours out at once? How many do you have? Are you going to do chelation?

CAT

I think that all the years that I had the 10 fillings was when I got the majority of the mercury buildup in my body. I have had Lyme for five years with not much improvement. I am going to start chelation after their out. I'm hoping that once the metals are out the Lyme will be easier to treat.

Good luck!!!