My LLMD referred me to this ND for therapies and homeopathic remedies to help the IV abs to be more effective in the long run. He told me my lymphatic system needed to be "cleaned out" and his other recommended supplements were not enough and also need to get the heavy metals out of my body. So this gal started me on a machine that does lymphatic drainage using cold photon gas laser technology that gets the very deep lymph nodes decongested - also had me under Infrared during the treatment, got my kidneys stimulated to move the waste, then she took saliva tests and started a foot detox machine bath to remove toxins generated. Boy this water really got black with flecks of metal. She showed me lab tests of other people's waters and is gonna test me, because she says the aluminum has to come out before the mercury will. She also did lymphatic flushing w/ the bath. Boy I couldn't believe all of this, but it sure helped alot ! Gave me custom energetic remedies to help my system in between treatments. I can't wait for my next treatment. Next time she will do a laser detoxification treatment the day before to "open me up". I got a prescription from the Dr for this, so hopefully insurance will pay for part of the treatments..................
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Hi Sue, So glad to hear when things help....I also got an IV shot of glutathione last week that I think helped a little. But the treatment you described sounds as if much thought has been placed into the benefits.
Can you email me also with information regarding this. Laney
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Hi Sue!
Nice to meet you ! You must see Dr.M. Wow sounds like the ND has gotten some new toys since I've been there. I may have to check it out! Thanks for posting!
Good Luck and Take Care....Terri
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You must be thinking of Dr. V. No this is Dr. S and she is in Dallas. She also has a medical background and does electrodermal screening. Told me one big issue with Lyme is that you have to find what is "covering up" the Lyme and get that first, ie highest priorities and work with that first. She thinks I have an infection in the jaw w/ is draining into whole body, has me doing some dental remedies and perio packs. I think it is helping as this tight jaw seems to be relaxing more.
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I have heard of this foot machine before..interesting.
Yes...the heavy metals and teeth...right on!
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Sue: I have done some of my LAD's (laser accupuncture detox) and some foot baths at that clinic, but I do it as part of a totally alternative protocol. I am surprised they do it also to aid abx treatment. The ND at that clinic works with the MD I am seeing and they do many similar things. The main idea behind the alternative protocol is that if you eliminate the underlying "stresses" on the body, typical meds will work to kill the Lyme. I guess this will work for abx also, but my doc finds that the herbal Samento is plenty strong enough once you eliminate the underlying stresses. And, the advantage to the herbal treatment is that you don't get all the candida and parasite problems left over that you get after abx usage.
This is all based on energy medicine. My doc is using other methods that do the same as Electro-dermal, and their results correlate pretty well. Every toxin has its own frequency and an energy diagnosis picks up whether this is causing "stress" on the body and immune system. The items that are to be eliminated are toxins, allergies, EMF's, mercury and other metals, parasites, anaerobic tooth infections and geopathic stress. LAD can eliminate the toxins and mercury quite well. It is cheap, easy, fast and effective. I am using a totally homeopathic and herbal protocol (except for parasites where he has used a prescription), and am making significant progress against a 40 year old infection that was totally resistant to all other treatments including heavy abx for 2 years. Very powerful abx are not needed to kill Lyme if you remove the underlying stresses which make it resistant. I use Samento for Lyme and Bartonella. Of course, if you don't remove those underlying stresses, Samento is no more effective than abx or homeopathics. Lyme is not that hard to kill. It just gets resistant inside the body due to many other things.
My doctor claims a 70 percent success rate with this type of protocol. He works as a consultant and sees only patients who have failed at all other treatment modes. This is not a one-size-fits-all protocol. It is all based on the energy diagnosis. I find it a little odd to use part of the protocol to work with an abx protocol, but whatever works for you. Insurance does not cover the alternative protocol, but it does work.
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Which clinic are you talking about ? I have been to a few that do all of these but this one Dr. S is really helping me now. She says you have to eliminate what's covering up the Lyme and to prioritize treatment. She is doing the LAD on me for several toxins, can't take Samento now because allergic to it and need to allergy eliminate first, allergic to my own hormones, It sounds as if your Dr is using the exact same methods, she also does other methods besides electrodermal screening and customizes remedies. I have a remedy for bartonella now that seems to be helping, she refuses to do a whole lot at a time as many of her other pts, some of whom I've talked to have been in deep detox with other Dr's and ended up sicker and had to start all over. The reason why I am doing it for helping abx is been on abx too long and want to clean up as much as I can as I go off the abx. She has other products for Lyme some Dr's do not know about, these work on cleaning up the neurotoxins and is helping with pain and brain fog. Who's the MD you are seeing ? The ND works with other MD's. My insurance does not cover the eav but pays in part for some alternative modalities since comes under insured modalities if you have a script. There are CPT codes for some of the procedures.
quote:Originally posted by BobTX: Sue: I have done some of my LAD's (laser accupuncture detox) and some foot baths at that clinic, but I do it as part of a totally alternative protocol. I am surprised they do it also to aid abx treatment. The ND at that clinic works with the MD I am seeing and they do many similar things. The main idea behind the alternative protocol is that if you eliminate the underlying "stresses" on the body, typical meds will work to kill the Lyme. I guess this will work for abx also, but my doc finds that the herbal Samento is plenty strong enough once you eliminate the underlying stresses. And, the advantage to the herbal treatment is that you don't get all the candida and parasite problems left over that you get after abx usage.
This is all based on energy medicine. My doc is using other methods that do the same as Electro-dermal, and their results correlate pretty well. Every toxin has its own frequency and an energy diagnosis picks up whether this is causing "stress" on the body and immune system. The items that are to be eliminated are toxins, allergies, EMF's, mercury and other metals, parasites, anaerobic tooth infections and geopathic stress. LAD can eliminate the toxins and mercury quite well. It is cheap, easy, fast and effective. I am using a totally homeopathic and herbal protocol (except for parasites where he has used a prescription), and am making significant progress against a 40 year old infection that was totally resistant to all other treatments including heavy abx for 2 years. Very powerful abx are not needed to kill Lyme if you remove the underlying stresses which make it resistant. I use Samento for Lyme and Bartonella. Of course, if you don't remove those underlying stresses, Samento is no more effective than abx or homeopathics. Lyme is not that hard to kill. It just gets resistant inside the body due to many other things.
My doctor claims a 70 percent success rate with this type of protocol. He works as a consultant and sees only patients who have failed at all other treatment modes. This is not a one-size-fits-all protocol. It is all based on the energy diagnosis. I find it a little odd to use part of the protocol to work with an abx protocol, but whatever works for you. Insurance does not cover the alternative protocol, but it does work.
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