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Does anyone have a lot of depression with this - anything that helps seems to stop after a while - like everything else the bacteria seems to overcome anything for pain, etc. mental clarity a big problem.
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Woodslyme, I guess I didn't hit the right button...So I made a reply to your post on the board under Re: Depression Sorry!
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danq
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Woodslyme,
Things get a little slow here on weekends sometimes, and holiday weekends are slowest... so it may take a little while for you to get real responses here.
I've only had depression for short times - for some reason I just don't stay down for very long - so can't be of direct help to you here. But I wanted you to have some kind of reply!
For me, the Lyme (and its byproducts) brings changing emotions - depression and sadness, often anger, then determination to beat it; and joy and pride when I can once again do something that I had lost. It's a freakin' roller coaster ride! Depression was the most common, though, in the "middle period" when I had deteriorated a lot but the treatment hadn't yet had much effect. I know it's hard.
Then there's the transition from beating the Lyme symptoms and finally getting back the old abilities, only to find a new problem triggered by the Lyme that will gradually disable me permanently. That's pretty damn hard. But I'm gonna get myself in the top possible condition so that I can go play as hard as I can for as long as I still can!
Anyway, if nobody else has come by with some help for you by Tuesday, just post a reply here yourself, to pop the topic back to the top of the list for people to see.
And, hey, I must tell you... my mind kind of automatically plays with words, so I get a non-optional warped sense of humor (maybe that helps with depression - everything has a funny side).
And I'm a consulting arborist so I deal with wood decay and such things. So, when I see your screen name, it always gets read as "wood slyme"
Sorry 'bout that... I really can't help it! Dan
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Shoot, I could write a book about depression.
Went through it for two years and finally came out of it. Then six months later started developing symptoms of Lyme. Oh, lucky me.
Anyway, I can tell you this, and I'm sure your doctor can tell you the same thing.
It's all trial and error with antidepressants. You need to try them for at least 3-4 weeks to see if they will work. Then you may need to adjust the dosage. THEN they may stop working and you need to try another one.
It takes time...lots of time. If you can exercise even a little bit it will help.
If you can get into the sun, that may help too.
If can force yourself everyday to move around, all the better for you!
I got so low I was actually locked out of a chat room that discussed depression! LOL, so how low can a person get????
e-mail me if you want to talk [email protected] Been there and I'd love to help.
There really will be light on the other side of that dark cloud.
Nancy
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Woodslyme,I know what you,re talking about regarding other pills besides abx. I had trouble sleeping and the pills I took for that were useless. Same as the painkillers. In my situation,after every herx I had my symptoms would improve. After my third herx the depression/anxiety was gone! I know it's tough going through this but try to stay strong and be patient.Get support from your family or contact a lyme support group in your area if you're feeling alone. Hang in there! Posts: 71 | From PA | Registered: Feb 2004
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I've had a really good experience with St Johns Wort. Works better than any anti-depressant/anti-anxiety drug I've been put on and I think I've tried them all.
No side effects (other than the sun thing but I am sensitive to the sun anyway) compared to what I've had with the prescription drugs.
Also, since I've been getting sleep on Amitriptilyne, I've been feeling much better. Sleep does wonders for the mind and body!
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hey woodslyme, depression has been my main symptom of lyme and babesia. I do not know what you have used to attack the infection(s)..... for me antidepressants have not worked. AT least the three ones I have tried. I now frequwntly get checked by a naturopath who works with kinesiology for what is currently the most important issue. I seem to have beaten the lyme according to her testings (which I trust in very much out of one year's experience) but the babs is still present and has caused depression very badly during the last year. My one advice is to also get tested for that and start treatment if it is present in your system. Treatment for that has always lifted or erased my depression. I have used a lot of artemisia products (and still am to some extend). It helps a lot. I would advise muscle testing because if the practitioner is good it is really very revealing. I haven't got a clue how it actually works, must be quantum physics or something comparably weird. You might call Dr. Klinghardt in Seattle and ask there for fellow practitioners in your area. Anyhow, what has really given my the final boost was rife treatment. I use this cheap thing, the freqency generator software called noriftrife, you'll find the thing by google or so. It has to be connected to an amplifier (stereo set). I use a frequency for babesia and one for depression and ever since that I have been so much better that I even started renovating my appartment. I was suspicious about the depression freq because it is much easier to imagine that electric current on a certain frequency would attack bugs, but as I see now the combination of the two is best. I am so amazed. I also do some detox with whey and whey proteins but that is not the most important thing. It could be for you, though, if lyme is still present. You probably have already heard of the chlorella thing and the heavy metal detox..... Maybe some of this can be helpful to you. Feel free to ask me in detail at [email protected] Thumbs up!! or as we say in german: "I keep my thumbs sqeezed for you" - ich druecke Dir die Daumen. Petra
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I find that Celebrex, plaquenil, and theanine can clear up depression within ten minutes, because for me inflammation is the culprit in causing moodiness. Anti-depressants always scared me, both because they mask symptoms that let you know your abx isn't working, and because a lot of doctors push them on patients as a quick fix.
Also, CoQ10 and omega 3-6-9s can clear up neuro fog.
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Hi again. I just read in another post that some people have super-strong bad reactions to Celebrex. So let me put in a disclaimer--it doesn't work for everyone, even though I find it to be a lifesaver. The theanine is harmless, though, and helps a lot with anxiety and Lyme rage.
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Lexapro gave me terrible sexual side effects
Wellbutrin gave me anxiety and SEVERE panic attacks. My doctor's great idea was to give me freakin nerve pills to counter-affect the anxiety and panic attacks. As soon as I refused to take either drug, the anxiety and panic attacks stopped.
Zoloft also gave me sexual side effects; worse than Lexapro
Buspar made me very sad and depressed to the point where everything made me cry
I tried something else but can't remember but that one also gave me insane anxiety.
I never had depression, anxiety, panic attacks or sexual problems until I went on those drugs. Once I stopped them, I stopped having those problems. I will never allow a doctor to prescribe them for me again.
Monica
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I couldn't tell in the beginning if my depression was from being married to my husband or from the Lyme I didn't know I had.
I was on Prozac for 8 years and it was a miracle drug for me. In 1997 I weaned myself off and crashed very hard about two months later. Went back on and stayed on until February of 2002. Foolishly weaned myself off it. (Why do I insist on doing that when I am really at my worst??)
This time Prozac didn't work as it had before. I tried Lexapro and that didn't work either.
I have been on Effexor since last year and it is quite effective for me. Still nothing like the fabulous results I had with Prozac in 1994.
Without the antidepressant I don't know how I could function, if at all. The times I have gone off have been disastrous. Not immediately but a few weeks later, I assume when it is completely out of my system.
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