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LJamesJohnson
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Since contracting Lyme, and even with it in remission twice, I haven't been able to exercise without activating symptoms. I have heard that CFS patients have the same issue. Does anyone know why? I have also heard that people who are heavy metal detoxing should lay off excercise temporarily.

For those of you with exercise issues, how many have successfully used a rebounder, or mini-trampoline to exercise and stimulate the lymph system?

In general, we are supposed to walk or move to the extent that we are able, in order to support our immune system, bring more oxygen into the body and blood, etc. However, virtually any movement on my part brings symptom issues closer to the surface. Go figure?


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We make CoQ10 when we exercise...provided we have the "ingredients" which include B6...which needs extra Mg.

CoQ10 carries hydrogen INTO the cells. Hydrogen INactivates PFK, an enzyme that Bb is dependent on.

(Cancer, like lyme, follows the glycolysis pathway. Into a search engine type in: "CoQ10 cancer" for dosages since the RDA is unknown.)

Expect a herx. Counter with a pos. charge (selenium or chromium perhaps...watch dosages) or research activated charcoal. Questran - OVER TIME - depletes CoQ10. Metamucil is another possiblity...to "absorb" toxins - neg. charges. Activated charcoal is MY fav. since it is the 3rd ingredient in what was once known as "the universal remedy".

Yes, rebounders are used to get the lymph system going. Vodder lymph massage is nicer ;-) if you can find someone who has been trained.

Walking, exercising in a pool...or better yet...in the ocean (for the minerals)...are easier on the joints!!!

Every lyme symptom IS a Mg deficiency symptom. Get the level back up to normal. Not easy since testing is sooooo inaccurate.

By speeding up glycolysis...you have lowered your Mg levels even more. Mg is nec. to form ATP via both routes (sugar or oxygen).

This is why Tammi did BETTER when she was warned and given Mg prior to her treatment. Heat is a neg. charge. MUST balance.


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Hi James, I am using a rebounder. Just
got it for my birthday. I am slowly building
up a tolerance for it, working up minute by
minute, but I also ride a stationary bike
with handles for arms.

One of the docs recommended that I try
oxygen assisted exercise, in which I
use an oxygen concentrator with a venturi
mask set at 35%. Air mixes with oxygen,
and one must use it only with exercise
to help brain and cellular function. I
am looking at my financial resources to
see if this is a possibility.

I try to do everything I can, including
sauna detox, which helps to stem a lot of
the peripheral nerve problems.

Will let you know more about rebounder as
I work up. Would like to get up to five
minutes, but only up to three.


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Marnie
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Lisa, remember...pools contain chlorine...a neg. charge. The pool pH is balanced (we add some minerals), but is SLIGHTLY more acidic than alkaline to control bacteria. You will note: BOTH negative AND positive charges are added to pools. It's all about balancing the charges.

You're catching on ...good! You are on your way...:-)

Consider a veg. diet (supp. with B12, sublingual about 3x/week)? It is much more electromagnetically balanced...minerals and vits (many vits are acidic). Yea, I know...bummer (I like meat.)But in the Bible...return to the fruits and veggies and seeds (nuts).

I know someone at an alternative healing place who was at death's door (according to her) and she became a vegetarian. It took a year, but she healed. (Her symptoms sounded strangely familiar.)


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Marnie-

Can I ask about chlorine and pools/tubs? I keep the chlorine level as low as possible in my hot tub. Would it be best then to keep the ph slightly alkilne when treating lyme? No one else uses it and I find longer filter times reduce the need for chlorine.

Thanks
Mel


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James,

I have never used a rebounder but I had frequently encountered the same problem you had, i.e., a reoccurrence of symptoms after a hard physical workout. Looking back, I'm now convinced that these incidences were not a lyme relapse but were caused by some kind of mineral/vitamin deficiency especially magnesium. I agree with Marnie on this one.

Many people experience a similar return of symptoms after an operation or when they put themselves through a stressful situation. Again, I don't believe either of these scenarios are lyme relapses, in most cases, and I think people should be careful before they start popping antibiotics again and give themselves at least a week of rest to see if the symptoms subside.

I can now exercise all I want and frequently do intense aerobic workouts of three hours or more without a problem(knock on wood).

jack


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It takes a LOT of acids reacting with a little metal/mineral to produce hydrogen.

When I was in high school...many eons ago...we took hydrochloric acid and poured it on a metal and trapped the gas (hydrogen)that was produced. It took a LOT of acid to completely dissolve the metal. Then we lit the gas (added heat...more neg. charges) and BAM!

Needless to say...our chem. teacher was very nervous that day and insisted we all follow his directions very, very carefully.

Sooo...we need more neg. charges than positive, but we need them BOTH to make hydrogen...to provide energy, to keep us healthy...every split second.

Want to know how glycogen fits into this picture...it has a positive charge, but COMBINE it with a negative one and...

Hence...the beta glucans (mushrooms)and Cat's Claw...quinovic acid glycoside...

Yes, the toxins have a neg. charge too. Ayurveda teaches that toxicity is acidic.

Follow typical pool instructions re: pH balance, etc. Otherwise, you might end up with a nasty co-infection.


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