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jordan'smama
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Hi everyone,
I haven't posted in a long time. I have an 8 year old little girl with lyme for about 4 years now and we can't seem to beat this. She did long term abx and has been symptom free for a year. However, her pediatricians gets her titer/wb checked every 6 months.
Her initial ELISA titer was 6.5 and her WB was 9 out of 10 bands, so you can imagine the horror we've been through. I won't even begin to go into what this child has endured.
To make a long story short, we had her titer below 1.0 and decided to discontinue the meds because she was doing well. Six months later and her titer is 2.24. I was so discouraged. I really thought we beat this once and for all. (
Her ped's want to put her on abx and her infectous disease dr. does not because she isn't showing symptoms.
She is doing alright, so I am considering not doing the abx but trying a holistic approach being her health doesn't seem in danger at this time.
I am currently investigating Rife machines. Has anyone here been cured with this treatment? I am desperate.
Please if you can respond soon. I want to buy one ASAP if it will help her. I want her to have a good future. This is really weighing heavy on my heart.
Thank you.

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Rife is a great alternative...many recover with it.


Just enter it in the search ....skyking posts about it often.

If you enter his name you will find info on it.

I have one...Jim Bare rife and I treat my wife for cancer and myself for Lyme..I have heavy metals galore though so it takes longer.

Otherwise I believe I would be fine by now.

Kent


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You might want to consider pulsing antibiotics according to Doctor Browns protocol. See www.roadback.org

I personally prefer pulsed electromagnetic field devices. They are known for helping heal broken bones but they are highly effective against migraines and arthritis. However I would not call them a cure either.

See my web page at http://home.rochester.rr.com/bkdavis/
for more information.


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dear bd,

thank you for your post. Let me ask, do you prefer magnetic coil devices because you believe they are more effective than rife, or are you concerned about safety. I ask this as a lymie who has used both and wonders these things. lymerx


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I have tried them both, as well as every other electrical device made!

When I used the Rife machine it did not seem as effective. High voltage burns were one of the side effects of building my own Rife machine.

It could be that babesia is causing a lot of my symptoms and Electromagnetic devices are really effective against blood parasites. The EMF device eliminated my migraines in one treatment. Eliminating dizziness and night sweats took more treatments.

As far as safety I am currently playing with an even more dangerous device. You apply about 12 KV to a metal plate under a sheet of glass. Then put your hand on the glass. Purple sparks fly everywhere. If you touch anything you get a shock like that from static electricity. Wear well insulated shoes too, or stand on plexiglass.

This device is supposed to be especially good for diabetics. I am using the "Poor man's Rife" as a high voltage source to drive it. This way you do not need any argon tube, it uses the argon in the air. So far so good, sores on my shins are healing rapidly. I am thinking of loaning one of these to a diabetic relative.


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thanks for the response, bd. I just wondered if you or anyone else had conclusive information about the safety of rife machines. My llmd is open minded but is concerned about the possibility of the generation of radiation from rife (especially plasma tube models). thanks
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Rife is a highly targeted frequency to "shake apart" the pathogen...thus destroying it. It is a neg. charge...not unlike abx. (acidic) and heat - except that it is TARGETED. Very similar to radiation therapy...also highly targeted. Safer, in some respects. Less likely for healthy cells to be harmed.

The outer cell wall(s) of Bb is a protein...chain of amino acids. Toxic.

Must counter with pos. charges - esp. Mg. These will work TOGETHER to help in addition (hydrogen reasons).

Consider too...things that absorb toxins...activated charcoal comes to mind.

The body does not heal overnight. Even Rife will take awhile. The symptoms will remain until the Mg levels are restored.

I would go for it...BUT...earn all you can BEFORE doing it! It is STRONG. DO NOT OVERDO...risk kidney shutdown and poss. death from the toxin die-off. The kidneys balance the pH of the body. Too many acids and the kidney cells can be damaged. (My dad's remaining kidney shut down from too many IV abx. post op...same reasons...too acidic. He also went into temporary toxic hepatitis. The liver stores Mg and glycogen ++ charges to try to counter the -- ones.) GO SLOW...follow the directions from other Rifers.

This is a POWERFUL machine! You HAVE to learn HOW TO DO IT SAFELY.

If you decide against this...please find my updated "nutshell" post and print it out for her pediatrician. There is a more "traditional" route one can take...following the Romanian abstract. He may be more "comfortable" with this...if you can talk him into restoring Mg levels while doing abx. There is a U.S. patent..."Magnesium for autoimmune" that may cover his "bum"...legally speaking...


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First, I'd like to thank all of you for your replies. I really appreciate it.
Actually, her pediatriaian didn't tell me to try the rife. I found it on my own and wanted to learn more about it.
I kind of jumped the gun and ordered one already.
I don't know.......I'm so comfused.
I want to try to beat this the healthiest way. Antibiotics have destroyed her digestive tract. She is so intolerant of dairy and sugar. Even with the Flora Source. Not to mention, everytime we take her off, a few months later, they are out reproducing again.
I read Skyking's bio and found the information interesting.
The guy I ordered it from said that you have to do this slowly, otherwise the herx is very dangerous.
I am a little scared about the whole thing. What kind of effect will it have in the long run? Is there any long term studies on it? Is there radiation involved? I know I'm babbling, this is a tough decision. I guess there is still time for God to do a miracle.

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You're doing the very best you can in very uncertain circumstances. Jordan's lucky to have you.

OK, so I'm going to sound like a broken record here, but have you treated coinfections? Babesia, in particular, since it seems to give Bb a place to hide?

There are a lot of strong opinions about Rife, pro and con (you can search on Rife on this site for a lot of discussion. Some of it's very acrimonious, unfortunately, but you'll see what the concerns are and the responses to those concerns). Skyking has always been very responsive to questions, and you can email him directly.

We've all made wrong turns in our treatment choices, as well as right ones. You just can't know it all, and sometimes you have educate yourself as best you can, take a flying leap, and hope for the best. It's a heavy burden when you're trying to make the decisions for someone else.

I guess I'm trying to say -- don't torture yourself once you've made your decision, or for your past decisions. Just closely track what's happening and stay in touch with folks who have experience with whatever you choose to do.

Good luck to you. You sound like a woman who needs a big hug so I'm sending one!


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Hugs from me too....Being a mom and watching our children suffer is one of the most difficult things in life...You aren't alone!

Please keep us posted as to your decisions and how your daughter progresses.....

Prayers for both of you..

Carol Ann


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dear jordan'smama,

I sure understand your worries over your little one. I'm a dad and sometimes the one thing I'm thankful for is that I have the lyme and not my little girl. Anyway, I have some news that might be reassuring to you. Just yesterday I borrowed a geiger counter from a friend who is a geology professor at my local university. I tested the rife machine I use, one with plasma tubes -- the BCX 211/411, and it gave me no reading for radiation. Just to make sure it was working properly I tried the machine on lots of things and the carbon monoxide alarm we have in our house really made the geiger counter pop. They are known to leak some radiation. So, I hope this makes you feel better. As one person who has used a lot of things on lyme for 4 years -- the rife machine has been the single most helpful thing for me. It not only works in my brain (I have mostly neuro symptoms) it also seems to make me feel better. be wel,l all, lymerx


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Hi Jordan'smama,

We have faced a similar dilema with our son. Our whole family has Lyme and currently, I am the only one rifing. However, we have not started my son rifing because abx are controlling his symptoms.

The concern my wife and I have for young children rifing is that a significant amount of cell division is still going on in their bodies and the effect of strong electromagetic fields on their DNA during the cell division process is unknown. I would read the book "The Body Electric" before you go down this rife road any further, so you can make informed decisions regarding your child.

There are alot of things/risks you need to aware of, but the book will cover the major points. You can get of off Amazon.com

Please note that I am a rife believer. I have been off of antibiotics for one year now with rife controlling my symptoms. So it does work! But I still would not treat a 4 yr old with it, unless as a last resort (my opinion only, read the book, and come to your own conclusion).

However, that does not replace having a really good LLMD evaluate your child for Lyme and most importantly co-infections, which can be just as harmful as Lyme. One of the best LLMD's for children in the country, is Dr. Jones in New Haven, Conn. ( he has given us permission to use his name in posts). He is world known and specializes in Lyme. We fly out from Seattle twice a year so he can treat our son.

The results due to Dr. Jones have been spectacular to say the least. Will not go into details, but my son is leading a normal life now, due to the doctors help with Lyme and the co-infections our son had. He was treated with abx for this result, not with rife.

Please email me for contacts if your are interested.

Ernie

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Bryan, the "Skyking" is our resident expert on RIFE and is very helpful & patient.

Check out his Yahoo group.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme-and-rife/


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Children have several "advantages". For starters, their bones are "softer" than adults...contain more Mg. It is calcium that causes the hardness of bones.

They have more healthy mitochondria...powerhouses in the cells. Disease and normal aging decrease the #s of mitochondria...over time.

Think of calcium as the dry cement and Mg as the "water" in our bones. With a 10% drop in Mg = osteoporosis. This is KNOWN. The bones become too brittle...and pathological fractures happen for no apparent reason...eventually.

They also tend to make more CoQ10...

Balance. It's all about restoring the balance.


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Thank you so much for the responses and the hugs.
I've read alot about the rife and your comments were encouraging.
Ernie, I can certainly see your point with the constant cell division and children. I am concerned about this too. I'm pretty much worried all around. There is always a tugging when you have to make a decision for your children. You tend to beat yourself up with whether or not you make the right choices for them. Expecially with an illness. One day I'm gung ho about the rife, the next I'm nervous about the long term effects. And the same with the PICC line, what effect will all these years of abx have on her body? Worse off, what effects will Lyme have on her.
It's tough with all the pro's and con's of any treatment for that matter.
I already ordered the rife machine so it's on it's way. I guess I just have to trust my motherly instincts and trust that she's in God's care.
Say a prayer for us.
I'll do the same for you.

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Hi everyone,
We received Jordan's machine today and did her first treatment. Four hours later and she is herxing. It's unbeleivable. I really didn't think it was going to happen this quickly, he said a day or two.
Around 8:00 tongight she couldn't walk because her leg was stuck from the thigh down. She cannot make it straight.
Also she was in pain and tired so I tucked her in and we said a prayer.
I want those suckers to die but it's still tough to watch her go through the pain. I guess tomorrow we'll see some more changes.
I hope this works for her. I'll keep you posted.

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