The treatment is once a week with a coctail of minimal dose of Abx, anti-parasitic meds and Glutathion.

After glucose level drops to around 30, the bacteria and other "bastards" get hungry and crawl outside the cells into the bloodstreem. At that time the coctail is IVed into the blood, together with glucose, vitamins (B12, liver support,etc.), so in the theory the "bastards" munch on the meds, when they are vulnerable in the blood stream.

Does anyone knows more about this treatment, did anybody had an experience with it?

My body develops allergy to any meds taken daily after just couple of days. So my LLMD has quite limited options for long term therapy.

Thank you for your suggestions.

However, we didn't just get IPT, but a potporri of alternative therapies wrapped into one. This included at least one bizarre drug that some of us received in our IVs (but not initially discosed by the Dr), so I don't want to necessarily bad mouth IPT when this specific protocol, that happened to include IPT, was such a bad experience for so many.

Has anyone had just IPT?

This clinic is in Denver and there is another LD patient undergoing the same therapy. She is doing great after 5 weeks/treatments.

I herxed really bad after the first treatment, last week I had my second and to my big surprise 2 days after that my pain medication (Duragesic patch) started to be effective on my pain (head, bone & joint).I hope it means something and it's not just a temporary thing.

I'm just really tired, more than usual, so I spent most of the day resting.

I'm very encouraged by the other LD patient progress (she even started to run again!). My protocol is very similar to hers, only I have less abx in the coctail due to previous allergic reactions to amoxicilin and penicilin type meds.

I have committed to 8 weeks/treatments, as I really don't know what to do else.

Can this treatment hurt me? Do you think I should feel different just after 8 treatments? I can be a poster child for LD and 9 years on full SSA disability, so I don't know how quickly shold I respond to any lyme treatment - in either way?

Thanks, I hope I get some more responses.

Yes, this was also tried in Atlanta. The idea being to use insulin to "carry" the abx. into the cells. It didn't work.

It's not the acids alone that are curing. It is the COMBINATION of the acids reacting with a mineral.

This combo. makes hydrogen and hydrogen (and other things) INactivate PFK...an enzyme that Bb is dependent on. This slows down the glycolysis pathway and restores the far healthier route to make ATP via oxygen.

Too many acids harm healthy cells. They pull more Mg out.

Find my updated nutshell post. Find the Romanian abstract. Show your doctor what the Romanians found...the % of Mg loss!

Also mention that Dr. Gary Kaiser, a microbiologist, says Bb uses Mg for its enzyme reactions.

With glycolysis speeded up = more Mg loss.

Mg is needed to make healthy antibodies. A different antibody for each different pathogen (co-infection issues). Because it is deficient, lyme patients are making a LOT of damaged ones (Fab portion) and restoring the right BALANCE of Mg with Ca...restored the health of the antibodies specifically made in us to fight Bb.

Follow the Romanian abstract as a "guide" to be cured. It is REALLY important. This is the FIRST time confirmed lyme patients have been confirmed cured following the use of abx. ALONG WITH restoring Mg levels.

Every lyme symptoms is a Mg deficiency symptom. Until the level of Mg is restored, the symptoms will continue...even IF the infection is gone.

A Mg deficiency alone...will, in time...cause other diseases and problems.

We really, really need this electrolyte...to make ATP (energy), to control over 350 enzymes, to make proteins - including immunoglobulins (antibodies) and to REPAIR MITOCHONDRIAL DAMAGE.

Restore the balance.

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Originally posted by Marnie:
Insulin is acidic. Combined with abx = acidosis. Danger. Danger. In an acidic environment, in a "starvation media" (not enough nutrients), this bug will go into a cyst form and wait to reappear.

Yes, this was also tried in Atlanta. The idea being to use insulin to "carry" the abx. into the cells. It didn't work.

It's not the acids alone that are curing. It is the COMBINATION of the acids reacting with a mineral.

This combo. makes hydrogen and hydrogen (and other things) INactivate PFK...an enzyme that Bb is dependent on. This slows down the glycolysis pathway and restores the far healthier route to make ATP via oxygen.

Too many acids harm healthy cells. They pull more Mg out.

Find my updated nutshell post. Find the Romanian abstract. Show your doctor what the Romanians found...the % of Mg loss!

Also mention that Dr. Gary Kaiser, a microbiologist, says Bb uses Mg for its enzyme reactions.

With glycolysis speeded up = more Mg loss.

Mg is needed to make healthy antibodies. A different antibody for each different pathogen (co-infection issues). Because it is deficient, lyme patients are making a LOT of damaged ones (Fab portion) and restoring the right BALANCE of Mg with Ca...restored the health of the antibodies specifically made in us to fight Bb.

Follow the Romanian abstract as a "guide" to be cured. It is REALLY important. This is the FIRST time confirmed lyme patients have been confirmed cured following the use of abx. ALONG WITH restoring Mg levels.

Every lyme symptoms is a Mg deficiency symptom. Until the level of Mg is restored, the symptoms will continue...even IF the infection is gone.

A Mg deficiency alone...will, in time...cause other diseases and problems.

We really, really need this electrolyte...to make ATP (energy), to control over 350 enzymes, to make proteins - including immunoglobulins (antibodies) and to REPAIR MITOCHONDRIAL DAMAGE.

Restore the balance.

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Hi Marnie,
thanks so much for your reply. I think me Lyme brain just can't process so much information. Can you point me, whare to find the mentioned Romanian stuff?

I have studied the Mg connection. I do a lot of taste and muscle testing to know when my body needs Mg. Since I started to drink the real Sango Coral Calcium - it has a natural balance of all body minerals (it's used in bone drafs), I'm not Mg defficient any more.

2 days ago I had my 3rd Insulin potentiated therapy. I'm feeling 50% better! The other patient is 90% better after 6 treatments.

So is it just temporary? Do the keets just hide till the treatment is over?

What is my other treatment option, if I can't take the same abx for more than 2-3 days in a row?

My LLMD explains the Insulin not to cary the abx into the cells, but to lure the keets into the blood streem - out of the cells. That can be seen on the Darkfield microscope - after the glucose drops below 30, the life blood analysis shows a lots of these little bastards just floating around unprotected.

That's the time when the abx coctail is pured into my IV together with Flagyl and Gluthathione. I get B12 and liver support shot. Right after I get glucose, drink elecrolytes and eat a full meal (the treatment has to be on empty stomach to control the dose of insulin).

What do you find the best to repair the mitochondrial damage?

Can you please help me to get the answers? I would really appreciate anything.

Thank you,
Punkie

You may FEEL better for awhile because you've just managed to make Bb dive for cover...go into a cyst form.

It will return. Sorry for being blunt, but either learn from others or make the same mistakes.

Insulin ACTIVATES PFK an enzyme that Bb is dependent on. It is an acid and so are the abx.

The acidic conditions ALONE do not cure. It is the combination of charges and the resulting production of hydrogen that is the cure.

Hydrogen (et al) INactivates PFK and shuts off the glycolysis pathway (sugar for energy). Insulin ACTIVATES it.

Too many acids harm health cells.

Cancer, lyme and malaria all follow the glycolysis pathway. We try strong neg. charges to cure (chemotherapy), but it doesn't always work...not enough mineral left to react with the acids to shut down the glycolysis pathway and healthy cells are damaged (minerals depleted).

Balance. It's all about restoring the balance.

Bb, in its protein (acidic) walls contains a metalloprotease which is attracted to magnesium. Magnesium is needed to make proteins. This bug loves and needs magnesium, but so do we to fight and destroy it!

The "mindset" is negative charges. In truth, it is the COMBINATION of charges...the right BALANCE that makes us, keeps us healthy.

I not only talked to the cured patient then, but have stayed in contact with him since, and he continues to be symptom free and have a normal life. He seems fully cured of Lyme.

BTW, this person also took great care to treat metals and candida and credits both of these treatment programs for his ability to stay Lyme free. He continues a maintenance program for at least metals to make sure he doesn't relapse.

However, without going into all the political issues involved, the doctor in Atlanta used a one-time only illegal drug on this patient, within the mix of treatments that became known as the Atlanta protocol.

However, piecing together information that I received directly from the doctor, and from other patients, the doctor chickened due to fear of being shut down by the FDA and other federal authorities, and substituted the illegal agent with another, possibly less-illegal drug. The result was that only this one patient received a drug that appeared to cure him, while the rest of us received something else. The doctor did not disclose any of this prior to our treatments.

Within his mix of treatment modalities in Atlanta was IPT, HBO, external infra-red heat, ICHT, nutritional support, and others. Everything sounded fine, but most patients went through hell with no long term benefit. As far as I know he no longer treats Lyme patients, just cancer. I pray that this is the case. I know little of cancer treatment so I don't have an opinion on his ability in that area.

The Lyme patient he cured is happy and has his life back. However, as far as I know, no one, including me, received everything that this patient received. IPT was only a piece of the treatment puzzle.

I appreciate what Marnie is saying, but you can't negate IPT based on the Atlanta experience because there were just too many other treatments included in the protocol to know what was happening to any given patient.

As mentioned previously, the doctor also included a bizarre chemotherapy drug in some patient's IV drip without their knowledge. I was openly prescribed this drug and discontinued it when I found out what it was.

Besides Marnie's warning about IPT, there are other warnings. Below is a link to a post related to quackwatch, an organization that I don't trust or like. However, this link offers information that the reader can judge to be useful or not. Information is information. Just to balance the source, this is what Quackwatch says about Lyme disease:

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from http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/lyme.html

The Bottom Line
Lyme disease, when diagnosed early, is readily treatable with oral antibiotics.

Positive antibody tests, by themselves, do not provide sufficient basis for diagnosing Lyme disease. The diagnosis should be based on the overall picture, including history and physical findings [7,36].

Negative antibody testing after the first few weeks strongly suggests that the patient does not have Lyme disease [7].

Many patients with chronic nonspecific symptoms (such as headaches, fatigue, achiness, mental confusion, or sleep disturbances) mistakenly believe that they have Lyme disease.

Intravenous antibiotic therapy, when given appropriately, should not last more than a month. It should not be given unless oral antibiotic therapy has failed and persistent active infection has been demonstrated by culture, biopsy, or other bacteriologic technique [37].

Malariotherapy, intracellular hyperthermia therapy, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, colloidal silver, dietary supplements, and herbs are not appropriate measures for treating Lyme disease. Doctors who recommend them should be avoided.
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Infection load, length of time before diagnosis, steroid use...all play a huge part.

So does the presence of other toxins already in the body when hit with Bb.

So does gender - male/female for hormonal issues as well as bone density and age (status of pituitary, thymus - seat of our immunity according to the Greeks...which NORMALLY shrink as we age).

So does exercise/lack of and diet. For certain, one's diet and supplements!

These things and more all impact the outcome.

Ulcerative colitis patients are doing better when probiotics are used. Probiotics (friendly bacteria) help to control yeast. I suspect your treatments knocked off most of the "good guys" along with the bad guys. This would give yeast free range. Gotta restore the good guys.

Cancer cells have very few mitochondria left.

Aging IS mitochondrial damage. Constant exposure to pathogens wears us down - mitochondrial damage. Over time, the new cells we make have fewer and fewer mitochondria. The mitochondria use glycogen for energy. The ONLY electrolyte needed to make ATP is magnesium.

Bone marrow transplants, stem cell research: let's give some healthy cells and see if they will produce enough ATP to shut down the glycolysis pathway and stop the disease.

Immunoglobulins, healthy antibodies (not damaged ones)...usually reserved ($ issues) to fight flesh eating staph infections which kill in hours.

Expensive treatments...bone marrow transplants, stem cell research, IVIG...keep the "engines" of certain companies running.

We KNOW...as Dr. D did...what this pathogen is depleting. (He recommended NOT supplementing THIS or any nutrient...so he knew...a long time ago. He thought he could "starve" this bug? No appreciation/knowledge of this mineral and just how very much WE need it!)

But...what? A dirt cheap natural remedy? In the early 1900s Dr. Pierre Delbet was curing polio and diptheria using Mg chloride. Easier, if caught early on. Why wasn't this treatment explored further...well...vaccines were being developed. Oops. We put mercury in them. Sorry.

My faith in the medical system has been shattered.

My opening paragraph on my Lyme website is:

Lyme disease is controversial and misunderstood by the conservative medical community. For this reason most Lyme patients--and especially those with chronic, long-term symptoms--are left to self-diagnose and self-treat.

That is why Lymenet.org is such a benefit to so many of us: we basically share how we experiment on ourselves hoping that we don't have to continually reinvent the wheel. It shouldn't be this way, but this is where we find ourselves.

I experimented on myself when I went to Atlanta and it was a huge mistake. Many others found it to be a disaster, too. We were hurt in many ways by the experience...physically, emotionally, and financially. To a person who was negatively impacted by that hodge-podge of alternative therapies, we all had our faith in the medical system knocked down a few notches.

However, most who I took treatment with in Atlanta continue to search for answers to this devastating disease.

I have seen people with Lyme disease give up, dig a hole, and pull it in after themselves. It is sad. However, most of the people on this newsgroup are still open and searching for answers to their health issues. For them, there is hope.

This is a confusing disease. It manifests helplessness and hopelessness in those who contract it. Staying awake and continuing to do whatever you can to make a difference in your life is not an insignificant thing.

In fact, many of us feel like we are literally fighting for our lives, because we are. This disease is not fair, or easy to manage. It is also devastating for our families.

Yet, we go on.

Thank you Marnie for all that you continue to do. Information and sharing with each other seems to be one of the ways out of this illness.

At this time I really don't know, what to try. In past 10 years I have tried quite a lot to get off disability and have some "normal" life.

I had a GREAT benefits after HBO, but only the treatment for decompression sickness, not the "wellness protocol". After 3 days - 6 - 9 hour a day I was able to go back to my both jobs (flight attendant and ski instructor) for almost 6 month!!! So I have a first hand experience, that HBO works if the decompression sickness protocol is followed (US Navy Dive Table #6).

I also believe, that one must do all therapies to address all other problems - co-infections, heavy metal poissoning, daily exercise, and totaly alkalizing diet (all acid forming foods, negative thinking and stress need to be avoided).

I don't have the knowledge, like most of the frequent visitors to this chat room. I mostly use the common sence and follow advice of people who got better.

As I stated above I don't have the luxury of taking daily abx, due to severe allergies I develope after taking the same medication longer than 2-3 days. So I and my LLMD have to be quite creative. I foud on my e-mail several responses of Lyme patients, who have the same problem, so I don't thing it's so rare.

After having pretty good day again today And thinking about all my options, I have decided to finish my next 5 treatments (once a week) to see what it will do to me. This spring I got so bad, that I don't have anything to loose. If I would have another option, I would sure look into it. But I don't.

May I please ask you, if you respond to my post, please use lay language. I'm still researching the ?Rumanian protocol and looking into the repair of mitochondrial functions. I would appreciate any guidance.

Thanks a lot. May all of you be well.

Punkie