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frenchbraid
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I get so many requests to know what we did to recover from Lyme. It sometimes becomes difficult to keep up with the emails and I thought it may help others if I put together a summary of what we've been through and some of the things that we have done.

I should start by saying that I went YEARS undiagnosed. Went from one doctor, to another, to specialists, had so many zillions of tests done - including a cardiac catheter and a colonoscopy. I can't count how many times I ended up in the ER because I thought I was having a heart attack. Still, no one ever even mentioned Lyme to me. I was at the doctor's office so often that my doctor actually said to me one time ``So, what is the problem this week?'' I was starting to think that maybe I WAS losing my mind (as he had implied by putting me on one antidepressant/antianxiety med after another.

On a daily basis I suffered from extreme fatigue, loss of balance, deep muscle pain, numbness of my face, hands and feet, severe abdominal pain, lack of motivation, joint pain (including TMJ), creepy crawly feelings on my scalp, twitching under my left eye, etc. etc. etc. Just walking out to the mail box would require a 2 hour recovery on the couch. Nothing seemed to relieve my symptoms.

I was forever online trying to find answers to my health issues. A long list of possible illnesses started popping up, but nothing really covered everything that I was going through.

I was always an active and healthy person and was declining so fast and I didn't even have the strength to do anything about it. I was so ill myself that I didn't even realize that the rest of my family was falling apart also. Infact, I was so ill that I didn't realize just how sick I was until I started to feel better.

But then, things changed. My youngest daughter had had 2 bulls eyes on her face 3 years earlier. She was treated with 30 days of high dose abx. We were told that she wouldn't need any further treatment. Well, she was fine after the abx and we never gave it a second thought. She was smart, active and very social. Suddenly, all of that came to a screeching halt. 3 years after her treatment, she started getting tremors, couldn't read 3 letter words, had no short term memory whatsoever and was waking in the middle of the night is dripping sweats.

I took her to the doctor and asked if this could be Lyme resurfacing. I was assured that it wasn't Lyme. I wasn't convinced. I came home and started doing research on Lyme symptoms and realized that not only did she have significant Lyme symptoms, but so did my older daughter, my husband and MYSELF!

Finally, an answer! I did some networking and found a ``tick center'' to take my family to. My oldest daughter and I tested positive via PCR on the first try. They found it in my urine, but not my blood. For her, they found it in her blood, but not her urine. My youngest daughter and husband repeatedly tested negative and they wouldn't treat them until they got a positive. (we did eventually move onto another doctor and got them treatment - and by the way finally did test positive)

But back to me.....I cried when I got the results. Not because I was sad. I was so happy to finally have an answer to all of my problems. Then I cried again because I started learning how serious Lyme is and how difficult it is to treat.

The one and only tick that I had ever had was over 20 years ago. Could that have been when it really all started? I vaguely remember being sick back then, but then continued on with a relatively healthy life after that. I also recall about 6 years ago being bombarded on the beach by biting flies. I ended up sicker than a dog. Was that it? Or was that the straw that broke the camels back? Who knows.

I was so scared and anxious to start treatment that when the doctor at the tick center said I would need to go straight to a PICC line due to my neuro symptoms, I never even batted an eye. My older daughter and I had our PICC lines inserted on the same day.

We did 56 days of IV Rocephin and oral Zithromax during that time. I had a slow, but steady improvement. Many of my symptoms had subsided, but I still had the numbness in my hands and the fatigue was slowly starting to return. They assured me that these symptoms would subside over time. I waited a few weeks and moved onto another Lyme doctor and also brought the rest of my crew with me. That is when my husband and other daughter finally started treatment.

The new Lyme doctor drew blood (which did come back still positive via Igenex), but in the meantime put me on 3,000mg Amoxicillian, 1,000mg Probenecid (to keep the abx in my blood stream longer) and 500mg Dynabac. By now I had started the beginnings of my 1,000's of hours of research and knew that I must start to rebuild and support my immune system. While on these abx, I started taking high doses of Garlic, B-100 Complex, Vitamin C, Astragalus Root, Maitake (mushroom), Flax Seed Oil, Milk Thistle, a quality multi-vitamin, Magnesium and a multi-probiotic.

We could no longer afford Dynabac for me, my husband and my youngest daughter, so I was switched to Tetra about 2 months into the treatment with the Amoxi and Probenecid. I stayed on orals for a total of 4 1/2 months. By then I knew that my abx life span had run out and that the only way to really get back on my feet was to continue to strengthen my immune system and to start cleansing all of the toxins and other junk that my body had accumulated over the years.

It was very clear to me by this point that Lyme was just one of the layers to my problems. My immune system was run down by other ``issues'' that I wasn't even aware of at the time and they needed to be addressed in order for my immune system to fully attack the Lyme.

We took everyone in my home off abx and continued to take immune boosting supplements. Then we started with a whole body cleanse. This clears out the colon, kidneys, bladder, lungs, etc. This gets the body ready for further cleanses by getting the route of departure cleared out.

Then we did a liver cleanse. Then we added in another colon cleanse because it became VERY obvious that we had more toxins being removed then our bodies could keep up with. Then we did a parasite cleanse, then back to the liver cleanse again and then parasite cleanse again.

We discovered during all of this time that Candida was playing a HUGE role in our illness. And I mean HUGE role. We cut out all garbage carbs and replaced them with good carbs, but in a low quantity.

We also started eating organic and whole foods. We thought we were relatively healthy eaters until we started breaking things down. We only eat organic, we avoid dairy and red meat and eat only organic boneless, skinless chicken breast. We don't eat anything that has been processed or preserved.

We also started using toothpaste WITHOUT fluoride. Fluoride is devastating on the immune system. We switched to just deodorant. No more antiperspirants for us. Why would we want to keep the toxins in? We only use organic shampoos, soaps, etc.

We are still getting our Candida under control and that will take a very long time. We are very aware of everything that we put in our mouths and notice a huge difference if we don't follow a healthy diet. I am personally working on strengthening my adrenals which took a huge blow from the undiagnosed illness.

I still need to address the metals and cavitations in my mouth, but the biological dentist told me that the grand total would be $17,500. So, that must wait for now.

We have suffered financially during all of this too. We don't have health insurance and as a result of all of the unnecessary tests, meds, etc., we had to file for bankruptcy. We are not letting that get us down. We are stronger as a family and as people individually. We feel better than we have in YEARS and are so much more aware of the little things around us.

We are about 98% better and have been abx free for 6 months now. My husband is back to his normal self, the little one is back in the Gifted and Talented Program, my oldest is a star Soccer player and I am just the happy mom/wife of my wonderful family.

I can't stress enough that a positive attitude is probably the most important ingredient to recovery. I know how devastating this disease is mentally, physically and financially. And, it is very, very difficult to rise above it when it seems like the rest of the world is busy having a life and doesn't have a clue what you are going through. But, you must know that deep down inside, you do have the strength and you will get your health back.

Stay Positive. Smile. People Care.

frenchbraid


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[This message has been edited by frenchbraid (edited 14 June 2004).]


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Thanks, and may you continue on the road to health!

Mg (and Ca) are key...restore those...over time, the rest will rebalance.

Yup...we are what we eat. Eat healthy to be healthy (and exercise!). Not easy given what we've done to our foods and lack of time, lack of energy to exercise.

As Dr. Rife said, "A body in balance has no disease."

Restore the balance.

God Bless.

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frenchbraid
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Hi Marnie,

Thank you for reminding me. We do take Magnesium, but I forgot to list it. I went back and updated my post.

You are right. Magnesium plays a big part in recovery.

frenchbraid

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This is great!!! I like that I can see the progression....the whole story....most of what we see here is bits and pieces and that is hard to figure ou how it all fits.

That is when the info is most helpful for me. I appreciate the time it took to do this. Maybe we can start a Chronicle thread where folks who have recovered can post the story.

I know there is a success stories thread and while it is very encouraging it doesn't chronicle getting lyme, getting dx, getting tx and outcomes.

If this is anywhere on lymenet please let me know. I would be willing to post my story when I get better.

Thanks again for the help.
robi


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Hello Frenchbraid

thank you so much for sharing your story with us..i have been so freaked out by my recent LD diagnosis..it has completely turned by world upside down!!
you always post such great stuff..i really appreciate you!!
I am glad your family is doing good..continue success to you and your loved ones..
I had my first visit w/ a LLMD today and the last thing she said to me or should i say stressed to me was that i need to have a positive attitude to beat this!

thank you again..Cathy


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FB, thanks for the informative post. Glad to know that your effort & dilligence has paid off.

I;m addressing some of the issues you mentioned and I keep seeing parasites mentioned on Lymenet. Can you elaborate on the parasite cleanse you used?


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hi Frenchbraid,
thanks for posting! your progress and positive attitude is very inspiring

one question, if you have a minute...

when you decided to stop abx, had you improved a lot by that time and become more functional? was it a hard decision to stop abx?

Or do you feel it was all the cleansing you did afterwards that had a greater impact on your progress?


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Good goin' f.b.!
Yep, lyme etc. needs a multi-faceted approach, constantly changing direction!
The minute you think you've figured out the key, that is the moment you better think again!
DaveS

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Hi Guys,

I'll try and address all of your questions, but if I miss one, please point it out and I'll repost again.

When we stopped abx, we were feeling better, but far from perfect. We had basically come to a standstill. We knew we had to take another direction or stay where we were for a very long time.

Most of the cleanses that we use are from RenewLife. Brenda Watson, PhD (www.RenewLife.com) is the developer of this fantastic, well rounded line. We use her CleanseMore (colon), CleanseSmart (whole body: lungs, liver, blood, colon, skin, kidneys, and lymphatic system) and Paragone (parasites). We will be using Candex for the Candida and we use our own liver cleanse. I've posted the recipe before, but I will cut and paste it here:

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Liver cleanses can be pretty harsh. We have found one that works very well and it is very easy to handle.

Put the following in a blender:

~ One cup of fresh squeezed Citrus: use orange, grapefruit, tangerine, lemon, and/or lime. Make the combination as sour as possible. You can dilute this mixture with purified water.

~ One to two cloves of garlic.

~ One small piece of fresh ginger.

~ One tablespoon of organic olive oil.

~ Blend the above ingredients and drink immediately.

Follow with two cups of a cleansing teas, such as Jason Winters or dandelion tea.

It is preferable to do the liver flush drink in the morning on an empty stomach, and then wait an hour before eating.

It is suggested to do the liver flush four times a year (as the seasons change) or whenever you feel you need a boost. Five days in a row each time is recommended.

Also, a good quality Milk Thistle will help to keep your liver and gall bladder healthy.

A good tip is to put the fruit in the fridge the night before. It is much easier to tolerate the drink if it is chilled rather than room temperature.

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I should also mention that I was diagnosed in late May of 2003. Our road has been a road with many bumps and 1000's of hours of research. I am very fortunate to have a ND locally who owns his own healthfood store. I am constantly in contact with him.

I also got involved with a homeopathic doctor. I also have a biological dentist.

My favorite expression to describe what we've been through is: "It's like an onion. You need to peel back each and every layer to get to the underlying dominant issue". Leave no stones unturned.

When I finally got real and realized that I wasn't the picture of health that I thought I was and that I could have parasites, Candida, etc., it was only then that the improvements became drastic.

Also, on a lighter note, after doing the liver cleanse, I will never be able to eat a gingerbread cookie again. But, that's OK. Too many of the wrong carbs anyway. LOL

frenchbraid

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Hi frendbraid,

Excellent, excellent post!

I so appreciate reading information like this that helps all of us try harder to be well.

I'm still working on it.

May you and your family always be Lyme free.

lifeline


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Frenchbraid,

Thank you so much for posting your complete story. It is such a help to those of us "in the trenches" and "in denial".

You have gotten your life back - but you still come back to help those of us who 'have no life'.

THANK YOU - THANK YOU-

Maybe we'll all have a story to tell some day-

I wish I had access to those health practitioners that you did- sounds like they helped alot.

Sis


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It is good to hear your progress and glad that you are joining the recoverees.

Your candida problems will fade away when
you get your dental situation under control. Until then the body will grow more using it as a protective device covering up - the negative there is that candida also give off toxins as they have their own life cycle of pooping, peeing and dying.

The figure for the dental repair still seems high to me. Maybe you should go see our
Canadian dentist or at least give him a call.

So glad you are doing so well. Best wishes.


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Hey GiGi!

I'm so glad that you're still around! The biggest chunk of my dental expense is 6 cavitations at $1,500 each. Ouch!

We aren't even making it paycheck to paycheck right now, so I'm putting the dental work on hold for the moment. As soon as I can, I will start addressing it.

One of the reasons that we do the cleanses is to rid of the toxins, such as those created from the Candida. It's not a lovely thought is it?

Thanks so much for sticking around. When I am able to address my teeth, I will get in touch with you for more info on your doctor in Canada. I don't believe we ever talked about him.

frenchbraid

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Up for those who may need encouragement.

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Good evening Frenchbraid!

And what a GOOD evening it is reading of your wonderful successes! THANK YOU for sharing your information with us and offering great hope to all!

Would you please copy and paste this on the Success thread? We really NEED to keep this post updated with all of the great news that comes in...and yours certainly applies!

Here is the link:
Success Stories: http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/022173.html

I am so thrilled for you and your family!

Much love,
Melanie

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