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trying2bsunny
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Was wondering if anyone else here has family who thinks this is all in your head? I've had positive test from LLD. Was on treatment for 3 years with some inmprovment but nothing great. He wanted to test for co infections insurance didn't want to pay family got tired of trip out of state every month and so on. SO had to quit all treatment. I still can't work, still have no memory < I live in a fog, night sweats, sever joint pain, extreme fatigue,off and on bells palsy, the lovely pins and needles thing, feeling like I've been stung. But since a reg Dr told me I'm cured my family feels I can't be sick. I'm pushing every day to get out of bed and take care of my kids, I nap while they are playing and have told them not to tell ther dad when I sleep till noon. Thankfully they are old enough to help themselves. I'm sorry if I sound like I'm whining but am very frusterated. They don't get it they just think I'm tired and since he's tired and is working well then I can live my life tired. How do you convince someone that your not crazy,or lazy and truely are sick?
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terter
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My heart hurts for you..

I know how it feels to be so exhausted, and trying to hide it from the most family that you can. I had to do this with the left over exhaustion I have from LD, and the sedating meds I am on for myoclonus left over as well. It made me feel sicker and guiltier.

I finaly explained this to everyone that I HAVE to rest or I am a hazard to their lives on the road....etc. They voiced their frustrations-especially my 15 year old daughter, as we live in a country setting, and to go anywhere, she has to be driven.

She cried and yelled at the frustration she has been experiencing her entire life-she has been very fresh to me, and explained that it was the hidden anger she had inside.

This hiding out, and having your children see their mother in this condition without getting help can harm them too. They can also be an advocate for you with your family members. Have a meeting about it and present your info.

My suggestion is to print out info-simple and concise-like Dr. B's Lyme list. Check off every symptom. Then call another LLMD and make an appointment. PRAY hard for someone to already be set up to drive you there.

THEN show the unbelieving family members your info, tell them that you have been so debilited, and have been hiding and sneaking as you are so sick, and so embarrassed. Tell them that your children have been covering for Mommy, and that this kind of life is not fair to them or to you.

You must get more help. This disease can kill you. Find that info and show it to the unbelievers!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ask them if they loved you they would support you. Ask them if they care to come on over to Lymenet-that we are not a bunch of crackpots wasting our time.

You can do this. You have to do this for your sake and sanity, as well as for the ones you love.

If they still don't believe you-they are the fools, and you need to get help anyway. Just do it. Tell them that you are so sick that you are contemplating planning your funeral. Maybe this will wise them up.

You could possibly get Social Security Disability if you have worked enough hours. this info you can find out after you get help. Hear that-AFTER you get help.

Everyone is here for you and will help you through this mess.

Prayers and gentle hugs-terter


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I know exactly what it is like to get up in the morning.

My son is not old enough to take care of himself, much less get out of his crib himself.

I literally lie in bed almost in a coma. I am awake and hear my son but can't seem to move. It's terrible. I literally have to force myself up every morning.

On the weekends, my husband gets up with our son, and I sleep until noon - sometimes later.

My dad and sister think it's all in my head. They think, since I'm not working, I'm just a whiner and need to get a job. This is all because I have too much time on my hands....


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I found this herre, on Lymenet!!!!!!!!!It is very long, but so helpful. i would suggest printing it out to show to family and friends.-terter


What Is A Chronic Illness, Anyway?


A chronic illness is a disease or disorder that a person has to cope with on a continuous basis. Many people become so ill, they are unable to work and are forced to give up activities they have always enjoyed. Often their illness goes undiagnosed for years, leaving thousands of people frustrated, depressed and without answers to why their bodies will not cooperate with their desires.


But, They "LOOK" Fine! How Can They Be Ill?

Many chronic illnesses such as: Arthritis, Chemical Depression, Crohn's Disease, CFIDS, Cystic Fibrosis, Diabetes, Fibromyalgia, Heart Disorders, Hypothyroidism, IBS, Lyme Disease, Lupus, Multiple Sclerosis, Neurological Disorders, Osteoporosis, Parkinson's, RSD, Women's Chronic Disorders and many, many others cannot be seen with the naked eye, but are nevertheless persistently keeping the person from enjoying life the way they once knew (this is only a sample of the dozens of illnesses which can be debilitating and not intended to be a complete list)!

Unfortunately, their families and friends are rarely supportive and understanding, because they do not see a broken bone or bleeding head to confirm the complaints. However, do not expect to see a disease that lives below the skin, because most illnesses are invisible until the person has had chemo or organ failure! Your friend or family member needs you to believe what they are saying is true, without judgment or question.


So, They Have "Good" & "Bad" Days, Right?

Actually, not everyone with a chronic illness has the same symptoms or degree of symptoms; yet, there are basically three stages in any chronic illness:


1) THE EARLY STAGE: This person may notice occasional symptoms or lack of energy. They start experiencing setbacks from activities which previously never took a thought. If diagnosed in this stage, which is rare, many can get help from their doctors and proper nutrition to cure or prevent further progression of the disease. This person has mostly "good" days with occasional "bad" days.

2) THE MIDDLE STAGE (or the Relapsing/Remitting Stage): This person may have frequent bouts of symptoms and is forced to make limitations for themselves in order to avoid extreme fatigue and relapse of illness. They reluctantly begin discovering that the simple things they used to enjoy, now must be done with care or sacrificed completely. In this stage, some can lower the frequency of relapse and progression of the disease with help from their doctors and proper nutrition. This person has both "good" and "bad" days, depending on activity and stress.

3) THE LATE STAGE (or the Chronic/Progressive Stage): This person's disease has progressed to the point where it does not remit. They live each and every day with symptoms that feel much like having the stomach flu, complete with extreme to unimaginable fatigue, muscle aches, weakness, nausea, cognitive difficulties, dizziness and/or pain.

When they push themselves to do what used to be easy, like dusting a piece of furniture, going to a relative's house or doing a load of laundry, they pay a high price, because their symptoms worsen to an unbearable level for days and even months. In cases like Multiple Sclerosis, the treating drugs available are affective only for persons in stages 1 and 2. This person does not have "good" days, only "bad" days and "horrific" days.

But, What If They "Give In" To The Illness?

When a young ice skater named Nancy Karrigan was assaulted and suffered a leg injury, she faced the possibility of losing all of which she had dreamed; the whole world cried with Nancy, because it could have meant the end of her skating career! Yet, when a person loses their job or is forced to give up their career due to illness, for some reason, people often treat them like they are choosing to do so; and, they are often insensitive to the fact that the sufferer has lost all for which they have worked, planned and hoped for their future.

Most people do not "give in" to illness; in fact, it is ingrained in our nature to fight to survive as hard and as long as humanly possibly. If you believe that your loved one is "giving in" to the illness, because they have given up their usual activities, this is just your perception of how they are handling their limitations.

When a person first experiences the effects of a chronic illness, they have a fantastic attitude about conquering it; they feel strong and invincible to its grip. Even if the disease progresses, they will continue to fight for their right to live the way they planned their lives to be; and, they will stay persistent in the battle until their bodies force them to make limitations.

Creating limitations for oneself is one of the hardest things a person can do. It goes against everything we are and everything we ever hoped to be. No one wants to be sick and no one ever chooses to give up those things in life which bring such joy. Yet, these limitations are mandatory in managing a chronic illness; so, respect their new boundaries by acknowledging their losses and supporting their need to say, "No."

We, as chronic illness sufferers, do not want to give up; we want to laugh, smile, look our best and enjoy life; after all, it is our incredible courage, perseverance and persistence to fight for our lives which make our painful disabilities seem invisible to the naked eye.


Well, I Still Don't Understand!

At least once in your life, you have probably experienced having to stay home from work or school, because you were too sick to go; incidently, I have yet to meet someone who has a cold or the flu tell me they are having the time of their lives and enjoying every minute of it! Or, you may have been hurt in an accident and were forced to give up activities you loved for weeks or even months; so, you know how stressful, depressing and frustrating being unable to do what you want to do can be!

Now, when I refer to being sick, I am not talking about feeling just a little "under the weather" or just not "up to" going to work that day. I am talking about being so sick you can barely sit up or talk, having a fever that makes every muscle ache and your bones feel like they are being crushed. Then, when you try to get up to go to the bathroom, your head pounds, your body feels like it weighs a ton and you become dizzy and nauseous.

Just imagine feeling that way every single day, week after week and year after year. True, some chronic illness sufferers have a few "good days" in between, but many do not have any at all! So, if you see them out and smiling, does that mean they are having a "good day?" Not necessarily! Many times they cannot wait for a "good day" to get out, because they do not have them; thus, they make the sacrifice, sitting there in horrible agony and knowing they will pay dearly for it later!

No human being can be at peace with being sick day in and day out! In fact, most people become very frustrated and impatient after just a few hours; then, if it lasts a few days, they become panicked and angry about missing work, school or other activities; next, they become depressed and act like a week out of their busy lives is the end of the world! Yet, they often treat their loved ones like losing months and years out of their lives is no big deal! So, why would you expect your loved one to be happy with losing years of their lives, when you cannot stand to even lose a few days?

It is true, you will never fully comprehend what it is like to be chronically ill, with all of the loss and pain it poses. You will never know what it is like to feel horrible every day and you will never have a grasp at what it is like to watch your lifetime dreams come crashing down forever. So, stop using the excuse that you do not have understanding and start focusing on whether or not you have compassion!


In all, your loved one just wants you see their courage in enduring a life of feeling sick, achy and exhausted all of the time; and, you have the capacity to know you would not want to feel this way every day yourself! You know how horrible it is to be sick and forced to put your life on hold for a while, so why don't you tell them how amazed you are at their strength and perseverance!


It Seems like I Am Always Saying The Wrong Thing!

What can sometimes be even harder to bear than the illness itself, is feeling alone in the daily struggle and mourning of lifelong dreams. As pieces of oneself die off bit by bit, isolation consumes them when others refuse to affirm their pain. By repeatedly trying to "cheer them up" and make them see the "bright side" you are not validating their pain, but instead saying, "I don't want to hear the truth" or "your losses don't matter." On the other hand, if you acknowledge their losses, they will no longer be compelled to gain your belief by having to explain their situation over and over again.

Resist the temptation to make a visual diagnosis by saying, "gee, you look like you're feeling good today" or "hey, you must be doing well." They may look like they are feeling well, because there is joy in their face from seeing you; however, your comment will only make them realize they are alone in their battle, since you are evidently unaware of their insurmountable hurdles.

In other words, by rebutting their answers with, "But you LOOK good," your friend really hears, "But, I don't believe you, because you look fine to me." Instead try, "I am so glad to see you," "wow, I can't imagine what you go through, you are amazing!" "you look nice today," or "how can I pray for you?"

Encourage your loved one by affirming your trust in them, loving them and showing them that they are still just as valuable to you even if they can no longer do the things they used to do; your willingness to acknowledge their losses will give them the strength and positive attitude they need to fight the illness, instead of wasting their energy fighting with you to believe. They are not seeking your pity or sympathy, they simply want your compassion; some will need your help, just listen, they will tell you how.

We, as chronic illness sufferers, do not want to give up; we want to laugh, smile, look our best and enjoy life; after all, it is our incredible courage, perseverance and persistence to fight for our lives which make our painful disabilities seem invisible to the naked eye.


"Learn To See With Your Ears!"


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Dear trying-

I honestly could have written your post. I am in-between treatment too because I am having a hard time handling the IV abx. I have severe head pain, brain fog, balance problems and fatigue. I have a baby - 14 months old and 2 little boys 9 & 7 and I have to have help caring for them because I'd 'forget' something critical probably for the baby or something.

I live in small town America and in Texas and we have 'no time' for Mommy to be away at LLMD's and we don't have any good ones in Texas anyway - so I am just 'barely getting by' day by day. Most of the time I'm unsure if it's lyme.....

I am praying for you-

Sis


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I just wanted to say how sorry I am that your family is not supportive. I cannot imagine... especially your husband. It breaks my heart every time I read about someone in your shoes.

I was trying to leave this post alone because I would not give good advice to you. I am not a very forgiving person... and did not want to put in writing what I would do or what I think about your husband.

However, I do want to say that Terter gave you great advice and you need treatment no matter what it takes. You definately need to be tested for co-infections. Those night sweats could be Babesia.

I hope you get to an LLMD soon.
Stacey


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If you have the energy at some point to do a search, you will see that many many people that come here are in the same position as you. It is just so painful when family does not support an ill loved one.

There are no hard and fast solutions. The most important thing is that you have to take care of you. If this means doing what you can to get to a llmd, then you have to do it.

Families don't want to support chronic illnesses for many reasons. They get stuck in a traditiona medical mindset and only believe what a doctor will say. Others are scared to admit that there may be more to these illnesses that what they can grasp.

You can try educating family, but it probably won't work unless they are open to it. So unfortunately, the bulk of the responsibility falls on you, which is not easy when you feel so poorly.

I haven't really given you much to go on, but know that many here experience what you are going thru....I'm sorry for that...
cootiegirl


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Hi,

I can feel for you also because I am in the same shoes. After being sick for over 7 years and being treated on and off for lyme disease (currently with a good doctor and on treatment steadily)... my hubby still hates to even talk about lyme disease... or acknowledge the fact that he and/or the kids are carrying it. He chooses to ignore it and I get so frustrated about it. I remember one time I sent him something to read on lyme (which I don't often) and he writes back to me... I love you but I get weary of all the details! What kind of love is that?!

Just focus on yourself and getting better.. this disease is so crazy, and until the public and medical society are more aware and imformed of the REAL facts of lyme disease.. things will continue as they are unfortunately.. all we can do is pray for the public to be more aware and for more medical options and treatments/doctors to be available for lyme patients .. instead of where we are now.. fighting for a diagnosis, treatment and being looked at as if we are the crazy ones!

Hang in there please.. you have to for yourself and your children! Things will improve with time and the right treatment. Take care!

Stephanie


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my heart breaks when I hear that families are not supportive. My son in laws family has their heads stuck in the sand. Mother has not seen her son since September. Father comes down every other month for 12 hours or so WOW!!! - 12 whole hours.

Then they have the nerve to say my daughter who is working full time - trying to keep their heads above water....taking care of the house and their child - is not doing enough!!!

You will get better - remember you didn't get sick yesterday - the turtle wins the race. Hang in there kiddo. None of this is a surprise to God...he will direct you to a good doctor and the right course of medication

Your in my prayers along with a host of others on this website

Joan


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Hi,
I just read your post- I have 2 kids ages 13 and 15 and know what it's like to put yourself on hold in order to be a Mommy. Anyway, the reason why I'm writing is that I also live in Texas and found a great Dr. in Austin- if interested, let me know. One thing I learned is that you'll never be a good mother if you don't take care of yourself first! Your kids are young- they need you healthy and happy for years to come!
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Dear trying-

I honestly could have written your post. I am in-between treatment too because I am having a hard time handling the IV abx. I have severe head pain, brain fog, balance problems and fatigue. I have a baby - 14 months old and 2 little boys 9 & 7 and I have to have help caring for them because I'd 'forget' something critical probably for the baby or something.

I live in small town America and in Texas and we have 'no time' for Mommy to be away at LLMD's and we don't have any good ones in Texas anyway - so I am just 'barely getting by' day by day. Most of the time I'm unsure if it's lyme.....

I am praying for you-

Sis



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Sistersue- I posted a reply to you further down- new at this thing.
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Originally posted by SisterSue2:
Dear trying-

I honestly could have written your post. I am in-between treatment too because I am having a hard time handling the IV abx. I have severe head pain, brain fog, balance problems and fatigue. I have a baby - 14 months old and 2 little boys 9 & 7 and I have to have help caring for them because I'd 'forget' something critical probably for the baby or something.

I live in small town America and in Texas and we have 'no time' for Mommy to be away at LLMD's and we don't have any good ones in Texas anyway - so I am just 'barely getting by' day by day. Most of the time I'm unsure if it's lyme.....

I am praying for you-

Sis



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Just a note to say you are not alone. I suffer from all the symptoms you list plus more (lots of neuro stuff). I don't have any family except my Mom but since she has never believed any illness I have ever had, I'm simply too tired to try to convince her of this one.

I also have to agree strongly with Cootiegirl. You can try printing off stuff to educate people but mostly they don't want to be bothered (well, maybe your family members might be different).

But I can tell you I have tried this approach with my "friends" and most of them can't even take the time to read a couple of paragraphs. Most of my friends are long gone and frankly, I don't care much because I don't have the energy to keep explaining to them over and over and over and over again that "No, I'm not well yet."

My illness has become much worse these past two years and I know exactly how you feel.

Keep you head up. There will be brighter days ahead. Talking with other people who are sick as well as this board has provided me with a tremendous amount of support.

I am so grateful.

CAT


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