I have always had dental problems. I have so many fillings, crowns, root canals.

Last week i had to have a tooth pulled, because decay got underneath a crown and the tooth was too bad to save.

I seemed to be healing fine until this past weekend. I started having MAJOR THROBBING in the tooth behind my extraction. The tooth that was throbbing already has a root canal in it so it should not be hurting.

For the last 3 days i have been at my endodonist. He is very, very good. I went to him about a month ago and he did two root canals in one day. The next day, i only took two advils.

Anyway, im still having pain in a bottom tooth behind the extraction. He thinks i may have a dry socket, or need a root canal on a top tooth, or the tooth which is trobbing needs to be re-done (it had a root canal years ago).

He decided to re-treat the trobbing tooth again and replace the old root canal. He feels something weird is going on.

I have had a total of ten root canals done. Eveyone in my family has had bad teeth.

I was wondering, if you guys think this pain could be part of a herx?

I have been on the mepron/zithromax for a month now and all of this pain started about a month ago. Problem is, i dont think i have really herxed yet from my ABX.

He wants me to take soma and advil for my pain. He is not big on vicodin. But, if my pain is that bad, i really need it. I am so bummed. Its like the dentist has to take my word for it.

Im just so confused. Sorry for such a long complicated post.

Can lyme disease cause all of these teeth problems?

Thanks,

Jordan

The problem is that where the extraction was is already healed. The doctor would have to cut a flap and insert the medicine.

He feels it will set me back in my healing time at this point and its probably better if we dont open it up.

Since he has started to treat the trobbing tooth, it is a little better. But i have only one day under my belt since we have started treatment.

Thanks for writing me back. I do get a lot of phantom pains in my teeth, which usually go away.

I have also had burning mouth syndrome for about 10 years. So, G-d knows with me.

Jordan

I'm sorry you are having teeth pain, that stinks!
Here is some info previously posted by Pacbird, maybe it will help a little.

I hope you feel better soon.
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Posted by pacbird

Tooth pain for no apparent reason is commmon in Lyme.
Academy of General Dentistry
Jan 7 2002

Lyme Disease Have You Ticked? Ask Your Dentist!

Lyme disease, which is initiated by the bite of an immature deer
tick, is difficult to diagnose, but your dentist may be able to
detect this mysterious disease, reports the Academy of General
Dentistry, an organization of general dentists dedicated to
continuing dental education. Patients with Lyme disease report pain
in their teeth, chewing muscles and jaw joint, which drives them to
the dentist.

"Unfortunately, most patients are not diagnosed properly until their
Lyme disease is at a later stage, and when it is more difficult to
treat," says Manuel Cordero, DDS, a spokesperson in New Jersey for
the Academy of General Dentistry. "Diagnosing this disease is very
tricky because it can hide itself behind many dental problems,
including toothaches and jaw pain."

A study of 120 patients with Lyme disease revealed that about 75
percent of patients reported pain in the chewing muscles and 72
percent reported temporomandibular joint pain. Burning mouth was
reported by 25 percent of these patients, and 70 percent reported a
sore throat. About 47 percent of the patients visited up to 10
doctors before being properly diagnosed.

"Your dentist may suspect Lyme disease if you have a mysterious
toothache that can't be attributed to cavities," says Dr.
Cordero. "The disease may be really causing you to feel pain
underneath the tooth."

About 70 percent of patients with Lyme disease reported dental pain
in the absence of dental disease, and the dental pain tended to move
from tooth to tooth. Of these patients, 36 percent had multiple
dental treatments, including root canals and tooth extraction
unnecessarily.

"Early diagnosis is critical because in its late stages, Lyme disease
can lead to neurological symptoms, arthritis, and can involve the
heart and other organs" says Dr. Cordero. "Filling out a proper
medical history will help the dentist detect this mysterious disease."

About 70 percent of Lyme disease patients are found in the Northeast,
but it has also been reported in the North Central and Pacific Coast
regions. Since 1980, nearly 100,000 people in the United States have
had Lyme disease.

Other symptoms associated with Lyme disease are headache, flu-like
illness with achy joints, muscle pain, stiff neck, significant
fatigue and facial pain. Many patients also have a characteristic
bull's eye shaped rash with a clear center seen at the site of the
bite. http://www.agd.org/consumer/topics/tmj/lyme.html

Thanks so much for the post.

Great article. I know i have had LD for a long time so its pretty intersting that LD may have contributed.

Dental problems can be so draining.

Have a great night.

Jordan

quote:

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Originally posted by Beverly:

"Unfortunately, most patients are not diagnosed properly until their
Lyme disease is at a later stage, and when it is more difficult to
treat," says Manuel Cordero, DDS, a spokesperson in New Jersey for
the Academy of General Dentistry. "Diagnosing this disease is very
tricky because it can hide itself behind many dental problems,
including toothaches and jaw pain."

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Thank you so much for digging up this information Beverly. I have had tooth pain for 8 months now, going from doctor to dentist, back to doctor, back to dentist, being thoroughly passed around for the financial benefit of all but ME.....

I was given a non FDA approved protocol last October 2003 of a nasal spray of staph phage lysate from a doctor in Maryland. Later I found out that the product had a history of being unstable and therefore I was spraying a staph infection up my nose four times a day. This set the bacteria in my mouth to a raging proportions that I have been battling every since.
I guess because of that protocol I never thought that the Lyme might be a contributing factor as well.
Of course, that is just another stressor. Right? It isn't enough that lyme itself gets the raised eyebrow from doctor's. Now to have to address it with dentist too? Just peachy.

I've been on the IV rocephin for one week now and I am no worse for the wear.....although I've been bedridden for the past year, so I am assuming that the healing will take some time as well.
I have only been able to eat limited foods because of the intense pain in my teeth. Not in the jaw or nerves of the face , just the "teeth" I've never experienced this before so it has been puzzling. Anything hot, cold, sweet or sour will send chills down my spine from the pain.
Anyway, I ramble on......I really appreciate this info. It has given me another look at this....
Lymielu

You might want to read some of my posts. There are many, many - because I went through what you are going through, except I beat you -- I had 13 root canals! Can happily report that I do not have them any longer and that I no longer have Lyme and any co-infections either.

You might also google "Boyd Haley Root Canals Lyme Disease" and you will get a ton of information.

I wanted to wish you luck with your root canal.

I have read a lot of conflicting information.

I really dont know how much lyme has to do with it. Im sure "some" of my phantom teeth pains could be LD related. I have had a tooth that hurt SO BAD for days, i wait it out, and it just goes away. On an x-ray nothing shows up. Even with a cleaning.

I have had bad sinus headaches, i have TERRIBLE ringing in my ears and i also have TMJ. I have a night guard which i need to wear more often.

Right now, my jaw is killing me from all the injections from the past 3 days. I still believe i have a dry socket that needs to be treated.

I was up at 3am this morning in severe pain. Not a specific tooth. At this point G-d knows.

Lymielu:

Hope you are feeling better. Teeth pain sucks. Now my endodonist is saying, "well, you have so much going on with all my ABX, and LD, TMJ, its hard to know why im in so much pain.

He wants me to take soma to "relax" my jaw area. It does relax me, but it does NOT take the pain away. The only thing that works is a vicoprofen which he does not like to prescribe.

I feel like im dealing with my endometriosis problems again and getting pain meds. Its crazy. I would much rather have slept through the night and have gone shopping today than be on the phone with the office describing my discomfort. Sorry, i didnt mean to go off, im just frustrated.

I do feel for you and totally understand what your going though.

GiGi and DocDave:

I know there is a lot of conflicting information out there.

I appreciate your posts.

Maybe someday when im feeling better, i will investigate.

When i did the search on this topic, i saw there were very strong views one way or the other. Im just an average person with no dental knowledge. All i know is im having pain and want it to stop!

Thanks to all. Again, DocDave, hope your root canal went well.

Jordan

The tooth would hurt like hell for days and then would be fine. Then it would start hurting all over again.

I went back to the dentist and he said, you don't need a root canal. He had no idea why my tooth was hurting so badly.

It hasn't bothered me in a long time now. The pain just disappeared. All I have done differently is wear my night guard every night instead of occasionally.

ANyone wants to call me a quack for trying a bio dentist, knock on my door and do it

Until then, you aint got a foot to stand on.

Cavitations and mercury in the mouth= bad news. Oh and by the way, The FDA is starting to block the use of mercury. It has already made law in some states. I guess the FDA is quacking along too.

I may as well, pull them all. I cannot have false teeth at the age of 36.

You guys have me very scared.

I had all my silver filligs removed and white ones put in about 10 years ago. Since then, most of those teeth (about 5) have needed root canals.

What they are telling me is that all of my white fillings have gone bad and that is why im having so many problems.

I also had a very bad dentist at one time and she messed up at least 2-3 teeth. The fillings kept falling out, so she had to drill deeper to put a new filling in.

Everyone in my family has bad teeth. I just think its genetic. If you saw me in person you would never know how much work i have had done.

I just wanted to give you a little bit more information.

There is no way i can change my teeth or root canals.

Very bummed,

Jordan

Jill, im glad your pain is gone. I have a night guard that i REALLY need to start using. I think that has something to do with my problems.

I just looked in my mouth, i dont have one silver filling. They are all white. I do have one gold crown in the far back. I guess there is metal under my crowns though.

Take care,

Jordan

It took me several weeks to see a difference.

I do clench my teeth alot - when I went to the dentist he was astonished at my teeth. The sad thing is, until the dentist told me I was doing it, I never noticed.

I can only guess that I was clenching my teeth or grinding them in my sleep.

I really don't know. I'm just glad the pain is gone. I do not go to bed w/out my guard anymore.

Try motrin for the pain. I tried everything else and nothing worked. Motrin would make the pain go away almost instantly and would last about 6 hrs. I was popping motrin right and left. I couldn't sleep without it.

Im glad you are out of pain. Too bad about the four canals.

Thanks for writing and keeping us all informed. Funny, that i took out all my silver fillings just because i thought the white looked better.

I guess the crown has metal on it though.

Anyway, have a good night and eat something soft.

Jordan