I have the 100mg for Allergy Research Group.

I took one today just to see if i would have a bad reaction. I guess i didnt because im typing on lyment. :-)

You can take Flagyl while on the Mepron/Zithromax? How many 250mg pills are you going to take a day?

I thought Ceftin might be another option?

Have a great night,

Jordan

My doc seems to think that Artemisinin is better than Artemisia. I'm not sure about the recommended dose. The doc had me build up. I take 3, 100 mg tablets per day.

He recommended Nutricology brand. I bought directly from them until someone pointed me to organic pharmacy where it was 1/2 the price. I called Nutricology to make sure it wasn't a scam and it's not. They said Organic Pharmacy buys it in large lots so they get a big discount. Here is their website: http://www.organic-pharmacy.com/ARG.Artemisinin.htm

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Originally posted by Murt1:

Also is 250 mg of flagyl every 6 hours a normal dose? Thanks for any info.

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The dosing schedule for Flagyl is usually 2x or 3x a day instead of 4x. (Flagyl half life is 8 hours and with Flagyl and Lyme Disease, you are typically trying to hit a _level_ of drug in your body, not _duration_)

mg/kg dosing info (for malaria) for artemsinin can be found easily through Google. I personally did 900mg a day of Allergy Research for 10 days.

Did adding the artemisinin make you herx hard? Did you notice a difference at all?

Im on my second bottle of Mepron. This whole last month i have felt pretty sick.

Thanks,

Jordan

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Its ridiculous to pay so much for that , when you can get it for 17.00.

How ya doing Murt?

Well anyway I am off the mepron for a while.
and half the dose of flagyl.
I gave myself a little break.

Sort of confused.

With all those combos and the art. am I hearing it can be used with almost any abx. combo ?

Lets put it this way--what would you NOT take art. with ??

Have a bottle growing old on the shelf but my babs protocol is supposed to be Clin/quinne--haven't done it yet.

Would rather use art. for the babs but never have been sure what to take with it----except garlic.

Thanks for any light on my beat up brain which has a hard time putting things together right now-especially.

Flagyl is hard on the liver and can cause a major change in liver enzymes and lead to liver damage. This is mostly considered to be reversible if caught in time, according to my reading. Ultimately, all long term abx are hard on the liver, but flagyl seems to be of special concern.

My doc and ND both have concerns about the long-term effects of artemesinin on the liver, and recommend taking a break from it at least every 5 months, staying off it for at least a month, and doing a liver cleanse before restarting.

We're on 300 mg artemesinin, also nutricology brand, 2 x a day (600 mg total), along with mepron, zithromax, and bicillin. Absolutely no problems so far. Have done a couple of very short (one 6 day and one 4 day } abx breaks and liver cleanses in the past 4 months. If you buy in bulk (4 bottles or more) you can often get great deals online -- I think I got my last batch from outletnutrition.com, and it was 14.50 a bottle for Nutricology brand.

So I think WildCondor is right -- be sure to watch your liver enzymes and go for it. We herxed significantly on artemisinin, so start slow.

Combination Therapy with Artemisinin Effective at Fighting Malaria http://www.overpopulation.com/articles/2004/000003.html

By Brian Carnell

Wednesday, January 21, 2004

A review of existing studies of anti-malarial compound artemisinin recently concluded that adding the Chinese folk remedy for malaria to existing anti-malarial drugs increased the effectiveness of those drugs in fighting malaria.

The International Artemisinin Study Group looked at 16 clinical trials involving 6,000 patients who were administered artemisinin along with other anti-malarial drugs. Artemisinin is an extract from sweet wormwood has been used for centuries in Asia to treat malaria.

Their review found that adding artemisinin to existing compounds doubled the rate of parasite clearance (the level of parasites removed from the blood) with no additional side effects. Additionally, patients taking artemisinin combination therapies were less likely to suffer a relapse of the disease after ending treatment.

In an article in Lancet describing the results of the survey, the International Artemisinin Study Group wrote,

If used widely, this inexpensive, fixed-dose artemisinin-based combination antimalarial could make important contributions to 'rolling back malaria'.

Sources:

Drug cocktail 'may beat malaria'. The BBC, January 2, 2004.

Drug combinations for malaria: time to ACT?. The Lancet, January 3, 2004.

Combination therapy, the best way to tackle malaria: Lancet. January 2, 2004.

Now that's what I call a great and really informative reply--thanks.

Wish they would have given dosage and named other drugs which worked well with it--

I'm thinking using it with the Clind/quinne protocol--hmmmmm---maybe not.

But maybe after the protocol---

Anyway-kudos for swift reply-

Choc.