LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter




The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet 2020 fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » Do Babesia herxes cycle like lyme ones?

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Do Babesia herxes cycle like lyme ones?
graneet
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 3112

Icon 1 posted      Profile for graneet     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Another words do the severity of herx come or go.

Now ive been on meds ten days but i noticed the last couple of days the worst of my symptom is fatigue and muscle weakness but even the headache today is minimal.

Hope the meds isnt working already. Maybe its got all the babes already?
any thoughts for those of you who are pros at this. Thanks graneet


Posts: 655 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Tincup
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 5829

Icon 10 posted      Profile for Tincup         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey there neighbor...

Good to hear you are feeling a bit better!

Yes.. they do cycle.. and you may already be feeling the good part.

NORMALLY the herxes hit on the forth and 30th day...

So hang onto your socks...

It may not be over yet!

Good luck though!


Posts: 20353 | From The Moon | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
graneet
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 3112

Icon 1 posted      Profile for graneet     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey tincup,
How ya doin these days?
Finally got to doc C.
I wasnt sure if they did like lyme so im on ceftin tomarrow for ten days so i shall see how that goes then back on cly and quinine.
So far hasnt been bad. Headache one day was rough and the ringing or buzzing in back of head but it passed.
One more thing i went back and looked at my log and sure enough the fourth day i had a hard day. Good tells me im getting somewhere.

Thanks for answering me Graneet

[This message has been edited by graneet (edited 30 July 2004).]


Posts: 655 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
minoucat
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 5175

Icon 1 posted      Profile for minoucat     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi Graneet. I felt lousy on the artemisinin even before I started the mepron/zith. THEN I felt terrible, lots of muscle pain in my legs and fatigue, and a headache that came and went daily (not bad at all compered to the agony of the original Lyme headache).

I mostly felt lousy pretty steadily for the next 3 months, although it lightened up little by little. Now I'm feeling pretty good.

I took a short med break. When I started abx again I had some fatigue (nothing compared to when I started this protocol) and some headache. And my sleep gets completely messed up on this protocol. I don't know whether it's the meds themselves or die off. I'm guessing both, simply because of the sleep problem.

My husband is still noticing very definite monthly herxes, but no way to tell if thats Bb or babs. He gets sweats about once a month, very mildly. He got very tired, sore, and spacey when he started back on meds.

I don't seem to cycle nearly as strongly as he does.

We've been at it almost 4 months. I'm on for another 2, since I seem to be at the asymptomatic stage; the hubby probably longer.

Good luck.


Posts: 2331 | From WA | Registered: Jan 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TheCrimeOfLyme
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 4019

Icon 1 posted      Profile for TheCrimeOfLyme     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Graneet,

I did clindamycin and quinien for 6 months. The only thing it did for me was give me intense head pressure, neck pains, migraines and vertigo. Once in a while though, those sypmtoms would break.

I just had to realize that for *me* stopping and starting was not the answer. I had to back WAY down on my meds to feel good, but if I stopped and started, it seemed like I was continously putting myself though a herx and it wasnt fun. I once told my LLMD that if I stopped abx at the first sign of a herx, I would never get on them.

They did cause a lot of fatigue and pain in my upper legs right above my knees, and the back of my legs burnt like heck walking up stairs.

oddly, when I went off the clindamycin and quinine... I did something against my LLMDs wishes. I snuck in a twenty day round about two months after quitting clindamycin and quinine of clinda and quinine

and I didnt stop or break the herx. My symptoms of babesia have not returned since.

Go figure!


Posts: 3169 | From Greensburg, Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Lymetoo
Moderator
Member # 743

Icon 6 posted      Profile for Lymetoo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey graneet! I doubt you're over the babs. That would be a world record if you were! Sorry! So hang onto your hat, as Tinny said!

I think the reason Dr C rotates the meds is that you won't let the Lyme get the upper-hand while you're on the babs meds, and vice-versa.

Also, I think the babs meds can be hard on the body, and you need to give it a rest. HA! Some rest, when you go right back to Lyme meds!

I herxed WAY too hard on the clinda/Q, so be careful of not backing off the meds when you herx severely. I found myself in the ER twice because I didn't back off.

Glad those days are behind me!

Good luck and keep on keeping on, Graneet!

------------------
oops!
Lymetutu


Posts: 96239 | From Texas | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
troutscout
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 3121

Icon 1 posted      Profile for troutscout     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Babs sucks.

Clindy uis really hard on the bone marrow...hence the break.

Trout


Posts: 5262 | From North East Iowa | Registered: Sep 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
graneet
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 3112

Icon 1 posted      Profile for graneet     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thanks to all,
took ceftin a while ago so we will see how the lyme does.

I am glad i did herx tho least i know the babs was an issue as all you good folks kept saying all these years.

Just cannot for the life of me figure why the two number one docs in pa wouldnt treat it all these years. Maybe i would have been better by now who knows. Better late than never tho.

Woke up feeling that tiny bit better feeling again and im so glad. Was afraid i was gonna end up doing like i always do with meds . Get a big bang at first then nothing but yuck the rest of the time.

Im also so thankfull the meds are not as bad as i was told they would be on me.

Thank you for your responses
Graneet


Posts: 655 | Registered: Sep 2002  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Lymetoo
Moderator
Member # 743

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Lymetoo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by graneet:

Just cannot for the life of me figure why the two number one docs in pa wouldnt treat it all these years.



Go figure! Some docs are just not keeping up....not going to Lyme conferences, like our good Dr C.

So glad you can see light at the end of the tunnel!

------------------
oops!
Lymetutu


Posts: 96239 | From Texas | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Tincup
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 5829

Icon 10 posted      Profile for Tincup         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey Graneet..

I am tickled pink you are FINALLY getting treated for Babs. I think of all the treatment I had.. this made me "see the light". It made the biggest improvement of all the things I did.

Babs is a bad one around our area.. and not many folks (doctors) are paying attention to it.

The herxes for me were NASTY as get out.. but afterwards.. for the first time EVER... I started having SUCH good days it was unreal!

Sooooo.. I do hope after the nasties that you improve too! You will LOVE it!

Hopefully your nasty days will be minimal due to the schedule you are on. I would love to know if you get the real goods and not a lot of the icky stuff.. cause I MAY want to try that schedule myself.

Please keep us updated as to how you do... ok?

Hopefully you will be dancing soon!


Posts: 20353 | From The Moon | Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code� is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:

The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
907 Pebble Creek Court, Pennington, NJ 08534 USA


| Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Contact Us

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to Terms and Conditions.