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weeza3
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Hello ladies and gents,
I'm seriousely considering the cat's claw alternative treatment rather than antibiotics. What type of Dr. would best work with me on this, a Dr. of alternative medicine or some other?
Has anyone here had success with this herb alone? Any advice appreciated.
Hoping to learn from pros, weeza

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have used it as adjunct to lyme with abx. hasn't done much for me but my doc insists i continue it. i use the liquid form from allergy research group.
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Thank you mcpucho for your answer. Suppose you're under the care of a Lyme Dr.? You're fortunate to have one that will utilize alternatives.
The reading on the herb is very interesting, just would like to hear some personal testimonies of its success rate.
Anyone with experience please offer your advice.. Thanks


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Much has been discussed on this in the recent past. Cat's Claw and Samento are not the same.

I believe if you do a search on this, up under Post New Topic you'll be able to read those posts and understand the difference.

As I understand it, Samento if far better than taking Cat's Claw.

If you do not know how to do a search, Danq has done a post that will walk you through it.

Follow this link:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000464.html


Personally, I'd do abx before trying Samento. I've done both Cat's Claw and Samento and got better results from the Samento....but, due to unrelated vomiting, I had to go off all meds and haven't restarted anything.

Rosemary


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Grateful Rosalie for your reply, I shall look up the previous posts. Hope your nausea issue will be resolved... this is why I'm not eager to enter the land of antibiotics if my tests reveal a low load of spirochetes. I'll know more in a couple weeks


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Sorry about getting your name wrong! I meant

Rosemary!


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Hello Weeza,

I'm not sure about the doctors (or ducks) in the States, but I know that Bowen helped in a research program for Samento (with a very hopefully result, 85% negative), so maybe that can help.

Nic started with the Samento caps last monday. For three days he felt much better, but today it was terrible. He uses it together with abx (Zithro/Flagyl).

Good luck,

Ingeborg & Nic

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Thank you Bryan for the link, will check out tonight. Would like to see some documentation from Dr's on its effectiveness. weeza


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Don't be afraid to try the antibiotics (abx)route. I was not and hadn't been on abx for 3 months when my nausea and vomiting started. I haven't actually thrown up since the last of April.

That's ok, many people in my life and my many years, have called me much worse. A rose be anyother name...

Anyway, hope you will really consider taking abx. You will get better!!!

Rosemary

Oh, believe that I've read here in the past of docs in England were using Samento as their first defense. Remember Samento and Cat's Claw are not the same.

Samento is the route you would want to take if you go that route.


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Thanks everyone for the heartfelt advice and opinions. I'm trying to remain open to the most sensible course of action. Just hate the thought of what seems like firing up those bacteria just when I'm feeling better after 8 months of mostly bad days. Such a confounding illness !!!
Bless you all for your courage.


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I still herx when I take this stuff....however, I find works best when rotated....taken for 6 weeks and then stopped for 6 weeks.

Trout

PS.......start on abx...please.

the cheapest source for these is a small health food store in IOwa
319-235-0246
Plus...they give a dollar to the Iowa Lyme Disease Assoc for each bottle taken


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Hi weeza3,

My son is on Biaxin currently and we're going to start Samento (liquid) in a day or two, along with the abx. There are a number of people on LymeNet who have had a lot of success with it. I'm pasting a rather long article below. Perhaps this will help....

Healing Reaction with TOA-Free Cat's Claw By William Lee Cowden, MD
TOA-Free Cat's Claw (Uncaria tomentosa 100% free of tetracyclic oxindole alkaloids) has immune-enhancing properties as well as direct anti-microbial properties. In a person who is overloaded with microbes such as a person with Lyme disease, taking a large dose of TOA-Free Cat's Claw or certain other anti-microbials can cause a microbial die-off reaction or ``healing crisis''. Such a person might develop nausea, vomiting, fatigue, headaches, muscle aches, abdominal discomfort, joint pains, weakness or other ``toxic'' symptoms. These symptoms presumably occur because of a sudden increase of mycotoxins, endotoxins and various other microbial toxins released into the body from the rapidly-dying microbes. These toxins overload the ground matrix, which is the fluid-filled space between tissue cells from which those cells derive their oxygen and nutrients and into which the tissue cells dump their own metabolic waste products. Because of this overload of toxins in the ground matrix and the reduced ability of the tissue cells to get proper nourishment and waste removal, the tissue cells become ``sick''. Aerobic metabolism of the tissue cells decreases, anaerobic metabolism increases and lactic acidosis increases. The lymphatic channels between cells also become overloaded; then fluid builds up around and in the tissue cells which further jeopardizes the function of the affected human cells.

A few things can be done to minimize this healing crisis cascade of events.
***First, starting the treatment with TOA-Free Cat's Claw at a very low dose and building up the dose very slowly and cautiously over many days reduces the rate of microbial die-off. This in turn reduces the production of the microbial toxins that create the die-off healing crisis reaction.

***Secondly, having the person who takes TOA-Free Cat's Claw drink large amounts of pure water each day helps to flush the toxins out of the body faster. The preferable water intake is between 1/2 and 3/4 ounce per pound of body weight per day (a 150 pound man would drink between 75 and 112 ounces per day).

***Thirdly, if a person takes certain herbal and/or homeopathic remedies to aid the detoxification of the ground matrix, lymphatic, liver, kidneys and bowel, then the microbial toxins do not tend to build up in the tissues as much. Homeopathic mistletoe (viscum album 12 x or 30 x) is a very good remedy for ground matrix. The herbs echinacea and/or clevers plus skin brushing and exercise are good for lymphatic support. Hydrangea, watermelon seed and parsley are helpful for kidney support. Dandelion, milk thistle and lipoic acid are helpful for liver support.
Also each person should have at least one large bowel movement per day by using sufficient magnesium malate, fiber such as psyllium and, if necessary, herbal laxatives like cascara sagrada.

***Fourthly, algae, grasses and fiber (chlorella, barley grass, and psyllium, or slippery elm) help to bind the microbial toxins to carry them out of the body.

The effective dosage of TOA-Free Cat's Claw varies markedly from patient to patient. One patient with Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis experienced a progressive increase in strength when her family worked her dose up to 3 drops of the herbal extract 3 times daily in a cup of water, but 4 drops 3 times daily caused intolerable die-off healing crisis. Another patient in a coma with glioblastoma multiforme in the brain and expected to die by all his doctors awoke from the coma 24 hours after the TOA-Free Cat's Claw herbal extract was started at 20 drops in a cup of water four times daily down his naso-gastric tube. He had no healing crisis symptoms initially noted. However, when he went back to work 4 days later, he had liver enzyme elevation by blood tests. The enzyme elevation resolved by adding some herbal liver support and his brain tumor continued to shrink on subsequent brain scans. Some patients with Lyme disease appear to require a gradual build-up of dose of the TOA-Free Cat's Claw to 15 or 20 drops 2 to 3 times daily but many improve nicely on 5 drops 3 times daily. When in doubt, start low on the dosage and build up slowly.
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What Makes Lyme Disease Tick & How Samento� Eliminates It
by Morton Walker, D.P.M. with Randall S. Walker

The current pandemic of Lyme disease is more infectious and insidious than any other known illness; it is prevalent on six continents. Less understood even than the symptom complex of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS), Lyme disease ruins the quality of victims' lives by striking them with various severe symptoms which may resemble one or more of over 300 systemic degenerations or dysfunctions. Simulating really serious afflictions, they may be symptomatic of multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, lupus erythematosis, Parkinsonism, rheumatoid arthritis, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, multiple chemical sensitivity syndrome, psychiatric disorders such as depression and anxiety, Alzheimer's, and/or many more. The complex multi-system inflammations of Lyme disease (Ld) are triggered as a result of antigenic lipoproteins produced by the anaerobic spiral-shaped (spirochetal) bacterium, Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb).

Who Is at Risk for Lyme Disease?
Everyone is at risk for Lyme disease, including newborns. "Of the 5,000 children I've treated, 240 have been born with the disease," says the world's leading Lyme pediatric specialist Charles Ray Jones, M.D., medical director of the Pediatric/Adolescent Medicine and Lyme Disease clinic in New Haven, Connecticut.

Two years ago, another Lyme disease expert, Dan Kinderleher, M.D., stated on the Today Show that the then existing 1.8 million cases cited by the U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDCP) in Atlanta, Georgia had been under-reported by at least ten times. In the United States, therefore, in actuality over 18 million Lyme disease patients now exist.

"The CDCP criteria was developed only for surveillance; it was never meant for diagnosis," explains Dr. Jones. "Lyme is a clinical diagnosis.The test evidence may be used to support a clinical diagnosis, but it doesn't prove one has Lyme. About 50 percent of patients I've seen have been seronegative for Lyme but meet all the clinical criteria."1

A renowned authority in the field of integrative medicine, W. Lee Cowden, M.D., of Ft. Worth, Texas, says, "There are very few symptoms where you shouldn't consider Lyme, especially given that a quarter of the U.S. population may be affected. More than 50 percent of ill people may have Lyme contributing to their condition."2

Andrew Wright, M.B., Ch.B., Treats Himself for Lower Extremity Neuropathy Caused by Lyme Disease

Speaking with us from the country town of Bolton in the Manchester region of Great Britain, 45-year-old physician and surgeon, Andrew Wright, M.B., Ch.B, began using a nontoxic herbal remedy for his patients who were suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome, Lyme disease, and allied conditions. Two years ago, Dr. Wright was introduced to a particular product derived from cat's claw (Una de Gato) which grows deep in the jungles of Peru.

"I discovered then and do find now that my patients respond very well to that particular rare herbal chemotype with the botanical name of Uncaria tomentosa. Patients frequently react strongly to the herb, and it has become my first line of therapy. It is quickly effective, has a cheap cost, and other remedies can be added readily if required," says Dr. Wright. "I'm really pleased with the product, particularly since it has done away with my own health problem of bilateral lower extremity neuropathy."

Back in 1979 I began experiencing sensations of pin and needles in my feet, spontaneous muscle-twitching, cognitive problems with energy slumps, and more. As a teenager and into adulthood I never knew what was wrong with me and no doctor could make the diagnosis. Then as a health professional, I consulted colleagues from any of the pertinent specialties concerned with neuropathies." Dr. Wright explains. "My eventual diagnosis was Lyme disease which fifteen years ago just became recognized as sweeping through Europe. "

Some months back, because my patients were benefiting from taking capsules or drops of this cat's claw chemotype, brand-named TOA-Free Cats Claw, Samento�, I started to take it too. Such a particular chemotype of cat's claw is devoid of those chemical antagonists called Tetracyclic Oxindole Alkaloids [TOAs] which act adversely upon the human central nervous system. Absent TOAs in this commercial therapeutic agent predisposed me to using that certain brand of the herb and good things have happened for me," Dr. Wright assures us. "By self-administering Samento�, the Borrelia organisms are gone from my body, and this has now eliminated my neuropathy symptoms, discontinued my mood swings, and generally recovered my normal functions. If I forget to drink drops of the herb in purified water, I feel unpleasant differences in well-being within a few days.

"I've been taking Samento� faithfully and fully intend to continue with the drops indefinitely. My lower extremity neuropathy stays away as long as I swallow these drops; it comes back when I fail to take them," states Dr. Andrew Wright.

Mechanism of Action of TOA-FreeCat's Claw
Cat's claw is represented by two species of the genus Uncaria of the family Rubiaceae indigenous to tropical South America. Uncaria tomentosa DC as well as the species U. guianensis are high-climbing, twining woody vines found in Amazonia (see Photograph 4). A bark decoction of U. tomentosa from Peru, the center of the plant's range, finds use for the treatment of inflammations, rheumatism, gastric ulcers, tumors, intestinal disorders, and certain skin disorders.7

The two chemical types of U. tomentosa differ greatly in their alkaloid content and therapeutic utility. One chemotype contains primarily the pentacyclic (5-ring) oxindole alkaloids which have immunomodulating properties. The second chemotype comprises primarily Tetracyclic (4-ring) Oxindole Alkaloids (TOAs), and these are undesirable components. Not only do the TOAs act adversely on the central nervous system, but they also antagonize any immunostimulating effect of the pentacyclic alkaloids.8

What makes Samento� exceedingly valuable as an antimicrobial therapeutic agent is that it is highly immunomodulating by being TOA-free. 9

Samento� also contains quinovic acid glycosides and some novel triterpenes which are applied by Amazonian tribes for the treatment of digestive disorders such as gastritis, colitis, ulcers, diverticulitis, leaky bowel, and hemorrhoids. As shown in laboratory studies, the herb's alkaloids activate immune system cells and work well against various viruses. Many of the herb's compounds also counteract inflammation, lower blood pressure, relax and dilate peripheral blood vessels, slow arrhythmic heart rate, and lower elevated cholesterol. From its immunomodulating effect, U. tomentosa has attracted attention among medical scientists for possible usefulness against cancer and/or symptoms produced by infection with the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV).10,11

The chemistry of cat's claw has been well-studied over the past twenty-five years, along with pharmacological reports of specific fractions from the root and stem bark of both Amazonian species. The herb's crude drug components are among the most widely used and best known folk medicines in South America, particularly among natives in the upper Amazon basin.12 The local natives harvest the herb's leaves for brewing into tea, gather bark of the root plus stem for personal use, and sell it as a cash crop (see Photograph 5). They gather their cat's claw as a saleable commodity for purification, packaging, and distribution as Samento� by Nutramedix, LLC of Jupiter, Florida.

Cat's claw climbs as high as 100 feet up the exterior sides of trees with the help of its hooks that resemble the claws of a cat. If the stem is cut, drinkable water exudes from it (see Photograph 6).

The medicinal components are present within its inner bark (see Photograph 7). Known for over a century, the remedial qualities of cat's claw were identified in 1974 by Austrian researchers. Other names which identify this herb are: life-giving vine of Peru, samento, uncaria, and Uaa de gato.

As a final caution about ingesting either of the two cat's claw species as capsules or drops and possibly as brewed tea, they should be avoided by women who are trying to conceive. Also pregnant women should not take them because the safety and mode of action have not been adequately studied for such women. Yet, the ingestion of cat's claw products appears to protect against cellular mutations as occur in cancer.13,14,15

Four Doctors Discuss their Experiences with Using Samento�
"Since the fall of 2002, I have used Samento� for the quick symptomatic improvement of patients, often within a few weeks, because spirochetes in their blood seen under dark field microscopy get progressively less in number until none exist any longer," states Complementary and Alternative Medicine (CAM) expert W. Lee Cowden, M.D., of Fort Worth, Texas. "Over a relatively short period, my patients' symptoms disappear from their ingestion of this herbal remedy taken usually in conjunction with digestive enzymes 30 to 60 minutes before meals and detoxification remedies to prevent the microbe die-off healing [Herxheimer] reaction."

"I know that the Samento� antimicrobial properties are derived from its containing quinalone components and the pentacyclic oxindole alkaloids (POAs). The POAs effect is to boost non-specific and cellular immunity. Furthermore, the particular chemotype of cat's claw in this commercial product, unlike others sold, does not contain the chemical antagonists identified as tetracyclic oxindole alkaloids (TOAs) which act adversely on a person's central nervous system," Dr. Cowden says. "TOAs tend to inhibit the beneficial effect of POAs. Because the TOAs are absent, the patient experiences a powerful immune system modification from Samento�. Pathological microbes as occur in Lyme disease are effectively combatted.

"I could offer hundreds of successful case histories in which Samento� was my treatment of choice. One is that of C. F., a 19-year-old woman who has now been free of Lyme disease for 18 months. She consulted me in January 2003 after being victimized by Borrelia burgdorferi for 14 years so severely that she had isolated herself indoors with home-schooling for more than half-a-decade," says Dr. Cowden. "She had to walk with support from a four-legged rolling walker and she could only study for two hours daily before exhaustion set in. She took Samento� for eight weeks which kicked in and allowed her to ambulate without aid from the walker. She went on a first date with her boyfriend and finally did not experience asthma attacks, fibromyalgia symptoms, brain fog, peripheral neuropathy, and gastrointestinal effects of the organism. This Bb infection had caused "leaky gut" and severe allergic reactions including frequent anaphylactic shock reactions with hospitalizations."

By the fifth month of Samento� ingestion, She went off to college without symptoms, and is now actively dating and enjoying her college life. The herbal remedy is allowing her to live a normal life, whereas before her future had looked bleak," affirms Dr. W. Lee Cowden. "This is just one positive experience among many that make my medical practice very satisfying by my use of Samento�."

"I have had numerous positive experiences with patients using Samento� as part of my dental treatment plan for individual patients. Those coming to me with jawbone cavitations, for example, remain untreated until I see that their pathogens are eliminated. Pathologic organisms, especially certain cell-wall-deficient bacteria which cause Lyme disease, travel through the body to areas of lowest resistance and colonize. Jawbone cavitations allow such bacteria to feel most at home," says biological dentist Douglas J. Phillips, Jr., D.D.S., of West Palm Beach, Florida. "When I apply Samento� great amounts of cell-wall-deficient organisms get cut down markedly. I can cause them to be reduced into measurements of low nanograms of existence."

A 50-year-old restaurant builder from Toronto, Ontario Canada had been suffering with cavitation pain from an infected root canal. He had tried ignoring it for months, and finally phoned me for an appointment. But he could not leave his business for another week; therefore, to assuage his pain, I mailed him a bottle of 30 capsules of Samento� to take three at each meal. The man telephoned me within two days to say that the jaw pain was completely gone. He added, 'Other pains in my limbs are gone too and I'm sleeping through the night. I'm not suffering anymore,' " paraphrases Dr. Phillips. "Those thirty capsules lasted him until he arrived at my office a week later and I could perform biological dentistry on his jawbone cavitation.

"Miraculous case histories involving Samento� such as had occurred with the restaurant builder are repeated in my office week after week. This herbal remedy works readily against Lyme disease but new discoveries about Ld indicate that additional, associated tick-borne co-infections include Babesiosis, Ehrlichiosis, Bartonella, Coxiella and various virsues. Samento� is applicable for all of them," confirms Dr. Phillips. "It lowers the body's bacterial count and makes my patient feel really well. This is one treatment that is useful across the board for a whole lot of the pathogens."

Health care teacher and naturopath Zenia Richler, N.D., of Springfield, Missouri, finds that Samento� gives people, including herself, a psychological lift along with the feeling of well-being. "When I take it I feel happier, plus it build's core strength for my patients. They heal faster because of a lift to the immune system," declares Dr. Richler. "Quite simply, I love the stuff, particularly in its dropper form.

"In using Samento� to treat Lyme disease, my distinct impression is that the patients get better twice as fast. I need to use less homeopathic remedies as my 'series therapy' when this herb is part of my treatment program. This is information I give to health professionals who attend courses I co-conduct at my teaching institution, the Academy of Bioenergetics, School of Natural Healing in Springfield," says Dr. Zenia Richler.

David A. Jernigan, D.C., of Wichita, Kansas, co-author with his wife and practice partner, Sara Jernigan, D.C., of the self-published book, Beating Lyme Disease: Using Alternative Medicine & GodDesigned Living,16 employs the ingredients of Samento� extensively. Dr. Jernigan states, "My partner in practice and I use Samento� for patients with any number of infections. We're very impressed by results we achieve. The Bio-Resonance Scanning technique my wife and I have developed shows that the herb is nontoxic, active, highly energetic, and synergetic with other remedies. Any person with an invasion by Borrelia has high levels of neurotoxins in the brain and nervous system. The neurotoxins produced by Bb are possibly the most debilitating bacterial poisons known to man. Even after Bb spirochetes are eliminated from the body, the neurotoxins can continue to cause a myriad of devastating symptoms. In my practice, I use the botanical Silphex!" in conjunction with Samento� to successfully
neutralize these neurotoxins."

Resources
For additional information about Samento, contact this herbal therapy's exclusive producer, Nutramedix, LLC, Suite 301, 900 East Indiantown Road, Jupiter, Florida USA 33477; Tel. (800) 730-3130 or (561) 745-2917; FAX (561) 745-3017; Email: [email protected]; Website: www.nutramedix.com.

For comprehensive scientific information about Samento� and Lyme disease visit the Science Library of Bionatus Laboratories in Ecuador at, www.samento.com.ec where Samento is approved as a medicine.

To acquire a great deal of information about the action of Samento, log on to http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/sammain.html.

To acquire large amounts of information about Lyme disease itself, log on to http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/medmain.htmlNutramedix also provides Samento� for distribution by Allergy Research Group under the name Prima Una de Gato.

To acquire this branded product, contact the assigned distributor, Allergy Research Group, 30806 Santana Street, Hayward, California 94544 U.S.A.; Tel. (800) 545-9960; website: www.allergyresearchgroup.com

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Mbroderick,
Thank you for the excellent references, I 'm eager to start reading! I surely hope the best possible results for your son, hope to hear good reports.
I'm also doing research on Rife machine which is getting lots of positive comments; I haven't decided if the antibiotic route is the one I want to
follow. All these decisions are a big stress, yet am ever grateful for the kind assistance of so many faithful members that are helping us newbies chart this rough terrain. So, THANK YOU


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