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jobrien
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My first shot of Rocephin was not bad but the second one.....hurt like ****!! It literally took HOURS for the pain to subside, which by the way, ran down my leg.

I forced myself to work-out, hoping that would help-which it did.

The second nurse who injected me did it much higher on the hip that the first- obviously, that matters. She was faster too!

Any other helpful hints....

If it hurts this bad all the time, I'll never make it!!


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David95928
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Joe,
Rocephin is extremely caustic. That is why it is usually reconstituted with 1% Lidocaine rather than sterile water. However, I've had it given to me without Lidocaine and the pain was extreme and swelling and soreness persisted for days (My pain threshold/tolerance is fairly high.I'm a guy who fialed to notice he had ruptured a tendon). My hunch is that this is what happenbed to you because with Lidocaine, I've never had a problem. You might want to check on this and INSIST on the use of Lidocaine.
David

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quote:
Originally posted by David95928:
Joe,
Rocephin is extremely caustic. That is why it is usually reconstituted with 1% Lidocaine rather than sterile water. However, I've had it given to me without Lidocaine and the pain was extreme and swelling and soreness persisted for days (My pain threshold/tolerance is fairly high.I'm a guy who fialed to notice he had ruptured a tendon). My hunch is that this is what happenbed to you because with Lidocaine, I've never had a problem. You might want to check on this and INSIST on the use of Lidocaine.
David


The nurse DID use Lidocaine!!


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Joe, I'm surprised to read that. Sometimes I just get a "bad shot" that is much more uncomfortable than that medication typically is. It may have to do with proximity to a nerve. The pain down your leg would support that idea. It is possible to hit the sciatic nerve but that would be less common when given high on the hip, as this was. Another possible variable is the length of the needle compared to muscle mass.
In general, I want to try to be reassuring that people usually find Rocephin to be quite tolerable an a daily basis, when it is given with Lidocaine. I'm hopeful that this was an isolated event.
My thoughts on the advisability of Rocephin is a separate matter. I believe Bicillin LA is more effective and not a risk to the gall bladder.
David

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Hi Jobrien,

Just checking on you. No need to reply.


Just rest up on the weekends; and I know you
can't really do that because your children need you.


Can't believe that shot hurt so bad. It's not suppose to be that way.


Also, is your stomach better? I hope so.


A person can only tolerate so much.


My injection takes at least 3 minutes. Some days the med goes in faster/easier than others.


Occasionally, my husand has noticed it's very difficult to push the plunger, but he doesn't tell me that until AFTER the injection.


I don't need the "power of suggestion" while the needle is in----you know, that things are not going well. Not a good thing.


All I can say is LOCATION & a slow injection are the keys.


Gosh, it sure sounds like it hit a nerve though.


I also shake the heck out of the Rocephin powder vial mixed with Lidocaine to make sure it's mixed well.


The longer you shake it, the better you can disperse the Lidocaine.


The directions just say shake gently until golden, amber color appears. To me, that just won't do it.

I shake extra well to mix it. Then I wait for the bubbles to subside before drawing up the injection.


I don't know------ maybe if you had a talk with each nurse that gives this to you (eye-to-eye) and ask for a SLOW injection.


Dr. H. told me on the phone, don't inject above where your belt sits; along with written instructions.


Anyway, take care of yourself. I'm glad you got to hear from David-------he's the best on injections!

Take Care,
Jan


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quote:
Originally posted by RECIPEGIRL:
Hi Jobrien,

Just checking on you. No need to reply.


Just rest up on the weekends; and I know you
can't really do that because your children need you.


Can't believe that shot hurt so bad. It's not suppose to be that way.


Also, is your stomach better? I hope so.


A person can only tolerate so much.


My injection takes at least 3 minutes. Some days the med goes in faster/easier than others.


Occasionally, my husand has noticed it's very difficult to push the plunger, but he doesn't tell me that until AFTER the injection.


I don't need the "power of suggestion" while the needle is in----you know, that things are not going well. Not a good thing.


All I can say is LOCATION & a slow injection are the keys.


Gosh, it sure sounds like it hit a nerve though.


I also shake the heck out of the Rocephin powder vial mixed with Lidocaine to make sure it's mixed well.


The longer you shake it, the better you can disperse the Lidocaine.


The directions just say shake gently until golden, amber color appears. To me, that just won't do it.

I shake extra well to mix it. Then I wait for the bubbles to subside before drawing up the injection.


I don't know------ maybe if you had a talk with each nurse that gives this to you (eye-to-eye) and ask for a SLOW injection.


Dr. H. told me on the phone, don't inject above where your belt sits; along with written instructions.


Anyway, take care of yourself. I'm glad you got to hear from David-------he's the best on injections!

Take Care,
Jan



Hi Jan,

I had a horrible weekend- first, I awoke with a terrible toothache- the one

that says "talk me out or I'll kill someone!". I don't know if the injection triggered something- can that happen? It was a bad tooth anyway but the pain is unreal.

The dentist sent me Amoxicillian but it hasn't helped at all,which I find rather strange.

Going to get it pulled today!

On Sat. I had a very strange feeling come over me- sweat was coming out of every pore of my body- I couldn't control it. Then I felt like I was going to faint and vomit- what the heck was that?!


Yesterday I gave myself my first official injection- it wasn't that bad-did hurt for a little with pain running down my leg, but went away quickly.

Today I feel just terrible- my stomach is upset becasue of the non-working Amoxixilian- or is this a herx?! Life with Lyme s****!!!

How long have you been doing injections? Have you seen any progress?

Take care,
Jean


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Hi Jean,

So sorry you had an unbelievably horrible weekend. All that on top of a toothache-----that's awful.


I'm astounded you can give your own shot, especially when you're feeling that bad.
Wow!


That's weird that after the third injection it still hurts down your leg like that.


All I know is that injections/IVs are much better absorbed than orals meds.


Plus, everytime you take a new ABX it seems to kill off something new because it's found Bb in its hiding places.


I was treated initially with 5 months of Zithromax. This killed off my initial bacterial load of l3 years.


I couldn't get off the couch at first.


I still had insomnia so I started Rocephin at 1 GM daily. This was not even a therapeutic dose which is 2 grams daily.


With your severe herxing, I'm glad you're starting slowly at l GM every 3 days.


You've probably read Roceophin goes straight to the brain so to me, every pain you have is just going to be magnified.


That's the way I see it anyway.


Rocephin does help while you're on it.


This won't make you feel better at all, but Dr. H. told me you have to get sicker first before you get better. (Sorry)


This sounds stupid to most folks, but eating PROTEIN helped the herxing-----if you can eat, that is.


Dr. H. said the cells are actually starving.
Anyway I can't go without eating protein.


Of course, water is mandatory, so be sure & get plenty of water. It helps dilute symptoms by getting the toxins out.


I know you've already heard all this.


Maybe things will let up soon. The strain of your Bb is obviously very senstive to Rocephin.

Take Care,
Jan


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