I've been running a very low body temperature lately. Basically, in the morning the oral temp is around 94.5 and then rises slowly to around 97 in the afternoon where it stays.
I didn't start taking my temperature in the morning since a few days ago. Though I've been to the doc's office many times early in the morning where my temp was normal.
So a low body temp in the morning is unusual for me.
I'm quite sure this "low temp" thing only started occuring very recently and that it is possibly related to the Mepron/Zith protocol I've been on for 10d now.
(I'm seeing an LLMD and am being treated for Lyme + Babs. But no positive tests.)
Other symptoms I'm having after starting the Mepron/Zith protocol include - headache every day, and - cold sweats early afternoon
Though none of these symptoms are really bad, but they are there and they are new symptoms (on top of all my other neuro stuff.)
I'm slightly worried about this low temp and will call the doc tomorrow. What do you think this is?
I thought I read a while ago that Babs may be associated with running a low temperature?
lla2
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michael,
you need to read my post alittle closer..
I said LOW TEMP is normal with lyme...low grade temp means low fever like 99-100, like iwth babs...
a low temp around 94-97 is very common with lyme disease....I know as a school nurse, our nursing guidelines tell us that a temp anywhere from 94 to 100 now is considered a NORMAL temp...this comes from the state dept of health for school nurses..so even a low grade temp like 99-100 as we get isn't even considered a temp really according to them...everyone runs in that range somewhere...
hope this reassures you a bit..
Lisa
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OK. After reading your post again, I now see what you're saying. And it does reassure me that my "low temp" isn't so low after all.
Typically my temp is
- ~96 when I first get out of bed, - then quickly drops to 94.5 in about 1/2 hour, - then starts to rise steadily to around 97 later in the day where it remains.
The level temp of 97 may be reached in a matter of hours or may take 1/2 day.
Does your temp vary similarly, or does it mainly stay steady throughout the day, with the usual slow increase towards the evening?
rosesisland2000
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quote:Originally posted by lla2: Hi,
most of us lymies run a low temp regularly..I don't think it has anything specific to do with babs quite frankly...
for me with babs I ran a low grade temp every afternnon somewhere around 99-100..that, I think is pretty typical of babs..
but I think it's quite common for low temp to run with lyme in general...
hope this helps, wish I knew the reason why...
Lisa
I agree, I ran, for a couple of years, a low-grade temp of like 99-100. Now, after much treatment and I suppose tx for Babs, too, although not tested for Babs, my temp has returned to below normal.
Which seems to be more indicitive of LD, the slightly below normal.
beachcomber
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Michael:
Your low body temp in the AM is normal, even for those without Lyme. Your body slows down while sleeping and it is very common to awaken with a temp. around 94 - 96.
My body temp. was consistently at around 95 -96 all day long. Then, I would get a fever, mostly at night, that would bring my temp up to 99 - 101. This is not a real high fever but it may indicate Babesiosis.
After being on Mepron and Zithromax my temperature is now pretty normal at around 97 - 98.6
Your temperature is not too far out of range of normal.
I don't know for sure if I have Babs or Lyme. Never got a positive test. However, except for the cough, I have every other symptom of "the milder form" of Babs as described in Dr. B's guidelines.
But for sure, I don't have an elevated temp, or even slightly elevated, like many of those of you who have Babs seem to have.
The thing about my temperature, and which I find so odd is the "way" it varies throughout the day.
As you suggested, my temp is low when I first wake up, around ~96 F. But here's what is so odd.
During the next 1/2 hour, the temp drops 1.5 F to ~94.5 F.
And after that the temp rises to a steadystate temp of at least 97 F but below 99 F.
The time it takes to rise to the steadystate may be different from day to day.
Some days the rise to steadystate takes only hours, while other days it takes 12 hours.
Below is graphical representation of my temp variations (typical day.)
Sorry to go and on about my temp, but I'm trying to find out if the particular temps I have and especially the behavior of the temp variations is associated with Lyme or one of the coinfections.
I understand now that a "below normal" temp is typical for Lyme.
But I'm still unclear about what the "dip" to ~94.5 F means.
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Though I initially ran a high fever with the Lyme/co-infections(?) of 104 degrees, after that and after insufficient treatment, of course, I ran low-grade fevers of maybe 99-100 from day to day - feeling flu-ish - and then went through a long period of having subnormal temps; 95 was the lowest that I know of, and I thought anything under that was considered hypothermia. Anyway when I ran so low, I felt it. I would shake, cover with blankets (including an electric blanket), drink hot fluids, and finally get the strength to take a hot shower. Usually my face would be burning hot when this happened.
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artbyjessie
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laurie, you just explained me experience...
i initially had a 104.5 fever which almost landed me in the hospital.
then they went down 99-100ish.
now they are 95/96 ish and i have the chills but my face feels flushed. fiance often thinks i have a fever until he reads the thermometer and gives me the shocked face :-0
I did a quick google search for "normal body temperature".
The widest range I could find for "normal" body temperature range was 97 to 100 F. And basically, anything below 97 is considered Hypothermia (see below.)
Mathias
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My body temperature has been low for over 1 year. My LLMD just discovered that I have a mycoplasma infection too. Have you been tested for it?
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Ever since I got Lyme my temperature has never gone up, except momentarily after taking my first antibiotic. Unfortunately, some doctors(uninformed) out there think that you can't have a serious disease like Lyme without having a high temperature. When I went to my general practitioner and told him I thought I had Lyme, he checked my temperature, and then after finding it was normal, told me I wasn't sick and I worried too much. There's a lot of ignorance out there in the medical community about this disease.
It wouldn't surprise me that the bacteria was somehow preventing our bodies from having a high temperature. One thing's clear about this bacteria, it doesn't like high temperatures. If you look at the CDC's map of where Lyme disease is most prevalent: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/riskmap.htm you'll see that the bacteria doesn't like excessively hot temperatures, the south states and it doesn't like excessively cold temperatures. Since the bacteria resides in a tick, which is a cold blooded animal, the bacteria takes on the temperature of the surrounding air. If you examine the CDC's map you'll notice that high concentrations of the disease exist along the chesapeake bay but when you go west, into Virginia, the disease is almost not existent. Well, what's the difference between the bay and areas inland. I 'think' that summer temperatures inland can sometimes reach 105 degrees or higheri whereas along the bay I don't think it ever gets that hot. I believe that 104/105 degrees or hotter would kill the bacteria, or at least make it very hard to reproduce. So, if the bacteria were to somehow prevent our bodies from having a temperature, either through suppressing our immune system or otherwise, the bacteria can survive. It's only a theory of mine I have no proof that this is true.
Lately, I've been spending time at my gym sitting in the whirlpool trying to raise my body temperature. Unfortunately, I end up getting out of it before too long because I'm uncomfortable.
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Hello everyone, wanted to drop a not and say hello...
Thank you again to the people who helped us out!! Our hats are off to ya'll and god bless each of you.
y daughter lisa and I run low body temps and have been for a while. so thank you for ther info.. take care and god bless all!
P.S. I am calming down and doing much better.. I know there were some responses but coud not get to them to read them. So I hope all is doing as well as expected.. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THE HELP AND SUPPORT!!!
Hope to hear from some of you soon?????
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By the way, forgot to mention that my general practicioner (very nice guy but always thought my Lyme had been eradicated and I had fibro)told me that a low body temp can be a sign that the body is fighting an infection ("probably a viral one")as much as a high temp. I never read that in any of the medical books I perused when I first got chronically ill in the early 80s, but it does make sense for Lyme. It's true and documented, Lyme spirochetes don't like heat. Many people with Lyme feel worse (from some die-off) in summer, or after hot tub or sauna therapy. While my 104 temp at the start of my Lyme was a nice sign that my immune system was revving up to fight this illness off, Lyme, unlike many other diseases, does a terrible job on the immune system, rendering it much less powerful. Add that to the propensity for spirochetes liking it cold, and it all makes sense - we're being set up for the long haul.
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