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Hello all, My husband found a tick on my Thursday night after taking a bath. It was on his stomach! He is an outside person so he has always been diligent in checking for ticks when he has been out in the woods but since I have been found to have Lyme he has made sure to look closely everytime he is outside almost.
He put alcohol on the tick and it backed out then he pulled it off and killed it. Well last night I looked at it and it looked ok, this morning it is beginning to get redness around it. Wouldn't really call it a rash as in bumpy or anything but it is getting red and beginning to spread out around it maybe it is just normal redness from being bit by a incet but I am SCARED! With all I have been through I want to stop that from happening to him if at all possible! With it being the weekend I don't want to take him to the quack motel because they would laugh at the mention of lyme disease around here, they did that to me then said "lyme disease doesn't cause the kind of pain you speak of" I just said to treat me for the shingles and send me home please!
but I think I need to get my started on something now and not wait until next week when he can see the doctor.
Should I give him my zithromax 500 mg until we can see the doctor or I have some biaxin XL 500 mg that I didn't take, would that be a good medicine for him to take until he can see the doctor as soon as I can get him in next week?
Problem is he never takes anything and I worry if those to medications would be to strong for him to just start taking. But I am afraid to wait until he can see a doctor next week.
Any suggestions? please I am scared and I don't want him to have to go through what I am going through now! Luckily we caught it when it happened but would waiting until Tuesday or so to see the doctor be to late to start medication or should I start him on one of the above ASAP? Thanks, Stacie
Posts: 220 | From Louisiana | Registered: Jun 2004
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Boy do I know your fear!! I found I had a few mice in the house in October and I flipped out, paid an exterminator mucho dollars to come immediately, scared the hell out of me.
Call your LLMD right away. If you can't get him/her then give him meds. They certainly can't hurt him unless he has an allergy. What would be the harm.
He will probably be fine but even with the small chance, we all know it is worth moving heaven and hell to keep him from LD.
Good luck Lymelady
Posts: 484 | From Fredericksburg, Va USA | Registered: Sep 2004
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If you can't reach him & you want to talk with a dr, you could try a neighborhood Doctor's Care or similar place. Some people have gotten early treatment there, but others have not. Take a copy of Dr B's "Diagnostic Hints & Treatment Guidelines..." - 32 pages of excellent info. See if they'll prescribe by his recommendations. www.ilads.org/burrascano_1102.html
Be sure to show them the last page: "Rationale for Treating Tick Bites" especially item #3 "....irritated with toxic chemicals in an effort to get it to back out...." I don't know if alcohol would fit this description, but it could.
From what I've read, it can take days to weeks for the Lyme rash to appear, but a reaction to the tick bite is usually immediate & disappears within a day.
The rash varies from person to person. May have rings, maybe not. May be warm, smooth, bumpy, itchy, crusty, may be red or maybe purple. Half the people with LD don't even see a rash.
My advice is to err on the side of caution!!
Put a coin or ruler beside it & take a picture. If it changes in the next couple days, take a picture.
Keep in touch & let us know what happens.
Posts: 4638 | From South Carolina | Registered: Mar 2001
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Stacy, I'm so sorry this happened to your husband. I truly understand how freaked out you're feeling right now!
Okay, if I were in your situation - and mind you, I am NOT a doctor or anything close to! - I would find out what the dosages of both the Zith and the (edited: oops, I meant Biaxin) XL would be for your husband and start him on the abx immediately. They can only help, not hurt, unless, like lymelady wrote, he has an allergic reaction (unlikely, but certainly possible).
Call your LLMD asap - hopefully he/she will get back to you sooner than next week. Be a 'squeaky wheel' if you have to.
I was told to "wait and see what happens" after extracting 3 ticks from my daughter and 27 days later the EM rash appeared.
"Wait and see what happens" was the ~worst~ advice that I've ever been given in my life! My daughter is going on her 6th month of abx now. Do anything you can to stop that from happening to your husband.
Best of luck to you and your dh.
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Just Julie
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Stacie!!!!
First, if you or your husband find another tick attached, DO NOT USE ALCOHOL OR ANY OTHER SUBSTANCE to get it to "back out".
You do NOT want to remove a tick in this way because by irritating it by ANYTHING, alcohol, vaseline (to smother it to get it to back out) you cause the tick to "throw up" or regurgitate the stomach contents it has in it's body, which include the @#$% Lyme bacteria, and any other tick borne bacterias, right into YOUR BODY.
This is printed somewhere, I can't remember where. But, in 1987, I had a tick attached on the back of my neck. Got it from hiking in the woods here in NO. CA. I woke up with a neck so stiff I couldn't move, body aches, general lousy yuck feeling. I went into work (hospital ER) and the docs there put vaseline on my tick, covered it with a bandaid, left me to sit for a half hour. Then, when it hadn't backed out, they used alcohol to swab off the vaseline, and pulled the damn thing out.
I know it is not a good thing to use anything to get the tick to 'back out'.
this is for O'Tom tick removal tool. I bought a couple off the internet, and I have used them on my cats and neighbors dog to remove ticks like crazy this season. You want to get this tool, not a tweezer type tool, because it lifts the embedded tick out of the skin with the head attached and intact.
That is very important-not to leave the head behind!
Also, it does not irritate the tick and cause it to reguritate it's stomach contents back into you!
I'd get one, I'd get a bunch, because they're easy to lose. I keep one in the car, and at home.
So sorry this happened to you and your husband!
I had a tick crawling across my stomach a year ago, and I put myself immediately on leftover doxy. My LLMD then had me continue that for 3 months. But, that was because I didn't know if I'd just been bit, and it had backed out and was leaving the premises or was about to attach into me and give me a death sentence. Sorry, that's how I feel a tick bite is these days, having battled it for the past 4 years, both kids, too. I avoid tick areas at all times, and a trip in the woods is never gonna be in my future, not unless there's a "cure".
Cheers! Julie
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So sorry this happened. Do what you have to do to protect your husband. We know too much not too.
Even if you have to go to a Doc-in-the-Box today, surely they will give you some high dose Doxy if you take Dr. B's Guidelines like CBB suggested. The Doxy will also kill erlichiosis.
(They give it for acne????)
At least that will tide him over until you get in to see your LLMD. Let us know how he does.
Best Wishes, Jan
Posts: 602 | From Burleson, Texas, USA | Registered: Jul 2004
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