Marnie
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Bartonella also uses Mg.
Hypercalcemia is caused by Mg dropping. Too little Mg = too much vitamin D (can't be converted to a usable form).
1. "CONCLUSIONS: These data demonstrate a relationship between angiotensin II and intracellular magnesium and calcium. In hypertension, angiotensin II-stimulated calcium responses may be related to simultaneously decreased intracellular magnesium concentrations." PMID: 8390527
Mg low -> Ca rises. Triggers angiotensin II.
Mg, Ca, and vitamin D relationship
Prevent osteoporosis. Magnesium helps the body convert vitamin D--which the body needs to take advantage of bone-strengthening calcium--into a form that it can use efficiently. By contributing to increased bone density, the mineral may help stall the onset of the debilitating, bone-thinning disease known as osteoporosis. http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,890,00.html
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DiffyQue
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Thanks for the infor. on the Mg and Bartonella.
Just yesterday, I found interesting information on Vit. D by a Paul Schaafsma on the site Inflammation and Infection.
On a more arcane technical note for the physician, pharmacology researchers, and others interested in molecular charge distributions/localizations on vitamin D, the tocopherols,and their correlation with biological activities should check this PMID 23345533. Jour.: Med Hypothesis 1990 Mar;31(3):165-70
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I haven't posted for awhile, but would really like some input..I did a search on Hypercalcemia and found this post I bumped up. Is this the same as high blood calcium? Asking because my ionized blood calcium level has been a little high for awhile and has me concerned. My parathyroid is reacting normally and decreasing its activity...I do have bartonella and am wondering if this could be the cause; I think this is what the post by Marnie is saying. If anyone could explain this post I would so appreciate it...
Thanks so much for anyone's input...
Jennifer
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My doctor who did extensive testing found elevated ionized calcium in me. She then did a urine test and my calcium levels were so high - it was like I was peeing bone. I also had a an elevated PTH. A scan revealed a parathyroid tumor which I had removed. A dexa scan revealed some bone loss in my hip and spine.
She was convinced this was from infection.
I also had to have my tonsils out due to fevers and massive lymph swelling. We believe the bartonella which I tested positive for caused both of these issues.
My blood calcium leves were in the normal range but smart docs use the ionized calcium test and the urine test for parathyroid issues along with PTH test.
The last test of ionized calcium was right on the line from being elevated, I think its the infection.
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Thanks so much for your reply...My ionized calcium was a little high, my urine was not normal, but don't know how off it was. My PTH was right on normal however. She's keeping tabs on my ionized calcium for the time being...
She's never mentioned my bartonella infection for possibly playing a part in this. I noticed you're in VA, too...Who do you see?
Thanks again for your input.
Jennifer
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Pardon me, but this report does not infer that Bartonella uses calcium. It also states that the patients had " decreased serum concentrations of intact parathyroid hormone."
There is no mention of the patients supplementing with calcium or magnesium either, so drawing any conclusions about them not getting enough mag would be strictly a hypothesis.
There is evidence that Bart uses mag, that it uses it to form protective biofilms, and that mag supplementation should be avoided. I have found this to be true through self trial.
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