lymie tony z
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Has anyone out there ever tried these products as a natural abx alternative???
Such as Royal Jelly(feel good formula) and Special delivery b12 b6 folic acid and royal jelly???
I feel really rotten having used this for about a month...no energy and diarhia at this time... am going to shift to metronidazole for awhile to see if bowels dry up...have next dose attempt at using KETEK...for second time for about 14days which is all I have for now...
How long have you KETEK useres been on it and what Kind of results are y'all getting????????????? I experienced a terrible herx when I took it in November...layed off Dec and will hit it again durring my monthly cycle this month around the twentieth...
thnks for any and all comments.......zman
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Posts: 2527 | From safety harbor florida(origin Cleve., Ohio | Registered: Jan 2004
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Hi, I have had good success using bee products. Bee venom plus propolis has really stimulated my immune system and kept it strong for the last 13 months. I have not been sick with cold or flu since I started, and noticed a big increase in overall energy. Also, for the first time in years my sinus is completely clear - all the time.
I take 5-15 stings 2-5 times a week, and 10 500mg caps of propolis per day.
I have been on ketek/mepron for 7 weeks now, with medium herx from both. I don't know which is which. But, it has not been too bad, and my monthly flare up has converted into a low level fairly constant mep/ketek buzz/fog that is pretty tolerable. Ketek sounds like a real Bb zapper, but you have to get past the initial herx.
I had some dizziness at the start, but after about 3-4 weeks that has faded away.
Hang in there. I know the bee venom sounds crazy, but for some reason it resonated with me when I heard about it. And tho I am a big sceptic in general, have to say that it has helped me. I tried the royal jelly, but gave up as I am taking so much other stuff. But it sounds as if it might work for you.
Good luck!
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Bee venom therapy has helped many people, but it is not the same as eating a honey product. You will only cause yourself problems if you eat anything that has sugar in it. This includes any natural sugar like honey, or maple sugar. In my opinion, fruits should be avoided while sick also because the sugars that they have in them will feed candida and other pathogens.
GiGi
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We did a lot of Bee Venom Therapy, however, not with life bees, but just using the venom that is collected in a healthy surrounding and in a manner that the bees do not lose their stinger, survive and are able to on buzzing.
Do a search on here - it has been discussed often.
Take care.
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lymie tony z
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Thanks for such a quick and informative response... I was pretty sure the fatigue I was experienceing was not herx related...it gave me much the same fatigue as whenever I forget and put syrup on my pancakes...something I don't do anymore...funny you would mention it...I guess we all have similar responses with sugar and sugar products...natural or otherwise. I was'nt going with the bee sting stuff anyway...but thanks for the info.
I decided to start back on my ketek without delay and pulse my flagyl....as I have read good things about the ketek even as recently as today...........thanks again nuff on this subject,,,,,,,,,zman
Posts: 2527 | From safety harbor florida(origin Cleve., Ohio | Registered: Jan 2004
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You don't really still eat pancakes do you? I hope you know that things like that are high glycemic, and can be just as bad as eating small amounts of honey. Anyone on abx should be on an anti candida diet which would not include any breads, cereals, cheese, fruit, sweets.
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