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I've noticed recently I'm getting lots of freckles and brown spots. Have been in tx for 5 months and was wondering if abx could be causing this.
Spots are on legs and arms...since it's winter I haven't worn any shorts or short sleeved tops (to cold in Colorado).
Previously I've taken Doxy, Zithromax, Rifampin, and am currently taking Tetracycline.
Is this a side effect of abx?
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Just Julie
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hey ya snowboarder.
I'm a long time lymie. Diagnosed in Sept. 2000 (me and both my sons)and all of us took various rounds of abx (oral only) for 2 years (my sons) and myself for 3 years straight.
Haven't been on abx since last March, but about this time last year, I finally remembered to ask my LLMD what the heck my brown spots were. I had looked up ACA photos here on lymenet and thought my brown spots on my legs (and a few on my arms) were these ACA spots I saw on the internet, and had read that they were related to Lyme.
I had noticed these spots a long time ago. I did not have very many then, and at one time, I was thinking to have one biopsied by a dermatologist, because my mom had once had a basal cell carcinoma on her forehead, and I didn't know what the beginning of a basal cell looked like.
My brown spot that I had then, and had biopsied, was found to be benign.
That was at least 10 yrs ago, I had Lyme then, but did not know it. But did not take long term abx until 4 yrs ago.
Anyway, I noticed this particular "brown spot" on my body 10 yrs ago, had it biopsied, it was benign.
Then, some time into taking oral abx for the Lyme, in the past 4 yrs, can't remember exact time frame, I noticed the same brown type spots appearing on my body. More than a few! They would even get darker, as time went on, and this would be in the winter (I do remember noticing the change in color, and it not being summer).
I would try to remember to ask my LLMD about the spots, but never remembered at my visits, for some reason. I even wrote it down in my notebook of questions to ask my LLMD, and never got to it.
Finally, about a year ago, I pulled up my pant leg, and said "is this an ACA spot"? And he looked at it, and said "no". He was very definite about this. I truly thought that my brown spots were related to this ACA thing that is related to having Lyme. I told my LLMD that I've noticed that I'm getting more and more of these spots, and that some change color, meaning get darker, and then lighter, over time, but never go away.
He didn't seem to think they were anything. I would love to hear if you find out if the spots are connected to taking abx. My LLMD is a very well known one here on the west coast, so I thought he would know for sure. But I do have my doubts.
In trying to describe my spots, I would say that they look like light brown, flat, non itchy spots. The size of the top of a pencil head eraser. Same color, almost too.
Please post here if you find out what yours are! Julie
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I have lots of these kinds of spots on my arms and legs-and I've had them for years prior to my tick bite.
When I went to Dr. C he grabbed my hand and said "these could be hormone related--read The Hormone Solution by Dr. Hertoghe."
I got the book through interlibrary loan and I do think that he may be onto something with this but I had to deal with other stuff before I could get my head around this too.
Anyhow, I'm interested in this topic too.
-Shanna
------------------ Wishing you fast healing and good health!
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I'm interested in anything to do with the brain; that's when I learned about lipofuscin.
Lymeherx just posted his experience using Piracetam for many years. jo3 is suppose to start Piracetam & I'm anxious to see how she likes it.
From Life Extension Source - The Physician's Guide to Life Extension Drugs
P. 186 "Another likely mechanism of action involves piracetam's ability to protect the brain against physical and chemical insults (Vernon, 1991), such as through its action on neuronal lipofuscin (Paula-Barbosa, 1991).
Lipofuscin is an aging-related pigment that accumulates in brain tissue and is associated with diminished cerebral function.
It is reduced by piracetam's protective effect on intraneuronal membranes or its antioxidant properties."
============================================= Benefits of Piracetam (also fights lipofuscin):
P. 185
alleviate hypoxia-caused sleep disturbance
improve hemodynamics and brain circulation
reduce lipofuscin buildup in the brain
acts as an antioxidant
operate as an antianginal, antithrombotic and antiplatelet, antidehydrant agent
increase prostacyclin production
enhance immunity
alleviates stress
help recovery from trauma and neurotoxic injuries [that's me, guys]
lessen fatigue
protect the liver from antituberculosis drugs
improve brain glucose usage
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Also, RX Hydergine augments the effects of Piracetam.
If you go to Life Extension's website: www.lef.org
you will find a library about everything!!.
Happy Reading, Jan
P.S. Fixed the link; it'll work now. Edited to clarify about Piracetam.
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Also found these other things to help fight lipofuscin:
DMAE - passes the blood brain barrier. I like Source Natural brand the best. Helps mental clarity & skin (in topical form) according to "Dr. Perricone' RX for Skin" seen on PBS.
Acetyl-L-Carnitine - (1,000 - 2,000) Naturally, this has to be the expensive form of Carnitine. The acetyl form is the one for the brain.
Hydergine - slows the depositing of lipofuscin
The following is from; Life Extension: Disease Prevention and Treatment
p. 31 "It has been argued that lipofuscin is formed by lipid peroxidatin, but this seems unlikely insofar as these pigments are primarily composed of protein and carbohydrate.
Recent evidence has shown that glycation (protein cross-linking by sugar) is probably a greater cause of lipofuscin formation than lipid peroxidation.
Hope this helps.
Bye, Jan
Edited to clarify post.
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I was trying to answer your question about Piracetam. I should have said Lymeherx001 and jo3 have tried Piracetam for brain function. (Yep, it looks like I meant lipofuscin-----sorry. I'll go fix it.)
Lipofuscin is what causes age spots or liver spots. Lipofuscin is debris in the brain/liver or anywhere in the body.
You want to get rid of the lipofuscin. It's actually not a product, but the cause of the age spots.
Beverly
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Wow..I have these spots too and lots of freckles.....thanks for all the great info Recipegirl05.
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I wonder if meds can cause this too? Have these myself and have tentatively associated them with the tetracyclines, which caused brown discoloration on my teeth.
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From what I have read, these spots are liver spots and the reason we get them is that our livers are overloaded with toxins. As one poster said, they are inside of us also. If one consumes coconut oil for a period of time these spots will go away. There is a lot of information on the Tropical Traditions website. I used to have lots of them, but since taking coconut oil for 3 months now, they are gone. My mother has also had the same result! And to top it off, coconut oil is natural and healing to the body.
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TheCrimeOfLyme
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I have the same thing. I have no clue what they are. I started to develop them on the soles of my hands BEFORE i got sick.
with lyme treatment, some of my other odd red spots have gone away though.
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