I had ceviche in Peru (raw fish) and about 4-5 months later is when whatever it is I have, really seemed to flare up again big time (after being kinda dormant for a long time).

I am only recently diagnosed babs, but, I wonder, could there have been something in the fish (esp since Peru doesn't necessarily rank highly in food hygiene) that would have made me sick - or kick started this up?

I learned this from my doctor and from the many Lyme patients he treats.

Take care.

Flygirl,

actually most food parasites are usually passed by the dirty hands of workers and not from the food themselves.

you can learn more about intestinal parasites :
http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040301/1161.html

food parasties are prevalent in the US though not in the same frequency as scene in the 3rd world.

you can have a stool test done if you are concerned about intestinal parasites. giardia is often a cause of unknown chronic fatigue.

..and how come it's so much easier to diagnose and treat in other countries, even third World?

They have quick, easy, cheap, effective tests, and offer 24hr remedies.

Granted, you should probably do as GiGi said ultimately and use various methods to be complete..

But it's mind boggling that most physicians here will not even go there, and the labs to check accurately are hard to find and big bucks, and many of the treatments readily available are long term and don't even make a dent in the parasite problem.

i would look into testing for giardia if anything. check the link on intestinal parasites above that i posted to learn more.

if your md won't listen check for an infectious disease md who specializes in tropical diseases at good hospital in DC and have them confer with a gastroenterologist.

I just had an e-mail from my ART practitioner friend in Germany telling me that she just had a Lyme patient releasing a 75 cm long fish-tapeworm (that's what they call it there)

She said in so many words, "I have to treat everything, and not only once, but a number of times, viruses, parasites, dental toxins, after the heavy metals and chemicals, vaccine remnants, etc. etc." and she literally uses the expression "I have to go with the fist through the back of the eye" if I want to accomplish anything. She does not mean antibiotic drugs. She is a naturopath and works with MD's if abx is necessary during treatments. Many of these type practitioners, including my doctor MD, do it this way - no one gets antibiotics for many months or years at a stretch. Short courses in between if the body/ART gives the okay. The Autonomic Nervous System tells and if listened to, auto-immune, the body fighting itself, problems do not happen.
All facets of this disease are treated in the order as the body reveals them through ART. Heavy metal toxicity comes up in every patient, usually at the very first testing.

This is my primitive way of understanding it and that is what our healing process looked like.

I have told this here on this board so many times, I feel like an old grammophone with a stack of broken records on it! You can take any lab test, you will not find the parasites; in reality there is none that will tell all and a stool test, well, unless you can turn your body inside out, what are you going to test. They are everywhere in the body, not only the stool. They are also in the brain, the throat, etc. My husband was treated for them - ART found them located in the brain. They are no longer there. My husband is able to walk again.

It is terribly sad --- but I do not know of any standard and usual method that the average person can afford to test for these. There are good parasites and there are bad ones. But if the bad ones haven taken over, then they get your nutrients - not you. And you all found out what happens if that goes on for a few years.

Don't take oral B-Complex-Vitamins as a starter. Parasites grab them. Do colonics, Arise & Shine, Albendazole, Salt & C, Sputnik, Freeze-dried garlic from Pharmax, and all the other dozen remedies that are available. We long ago decided to forget the expensive lab testing and all the scientific research institutions, because if you have Lyme, you have parasites. The sooner you get at them, the better off you are.

That's the way it works for patients that I have met and still meet and hear about daily.

This is a lousy disease to end up with - and as my practitioner friend just repeated, the more you emphasize everything when with a patient, the more frantic they get. Treat everything there is to treat with everything you can find, including the allergic reactions to the output of the critters (is done with ART). She also said "No matter whom I see, it's always the same, I always find Lyme". (She works exclusively with ART).

Take care.

Many thanks for all you put forth here
It's a core understanding we need to embrace.

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Originally posted by GiGi:
If you can find someone that does ART, they can readily establish if parasites are a problem for you, and which ones. That's how mine were found, after a negative lab test.

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ART is a subjective "art", an examiner can say you have anything if no empirical evidence is relied upon, such as serology (blood, etc) testing.

in fact it is a matter of belief, the will to believe, by the patient to trust the practioner's intrepretation of the process.

to me that is completey unreliable.

ART completey disregards the scientific method, which we rely upon for every facet of our modern lives - our cars to move, our refridgerators to work, etc.

it's a leap of faith to believe in energy fields, but that, like believing in anything of the metaphysical nature, is a personal belief.

your md may be on the up and up, and if he has gone to medical school and done a residency can recognize outward signs of disease (clinical diagnosis)...

but there are TOO many naturopath's, etc, out there that are nothing more than snake-oil salesmen, plain and simple.

i would be wary to intrust my health to anyone who hasn't gone to medical school.

ART Laws
by Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D., PhD

The First law of A.R.T. - the law of resonance between 2 identical substances ( this law has been most clearly identified by the research of Y.Omura,M.D.): if a substance is held in the energy-field of a person and the indicator muscle weakens, the identical substance is in the body (resonance between 2 identical substances). If the substance is only in a particular organ, ganglion or other structure, the test-substance has to be held exactly over this area. A variation of this test is the most common A.R.T. test: the examiner finds a structure, that therapy-localizes (while holding it, the indicator muscle weakens). The indicator-muscle becomes strong, when the resonating substance is placed anywhere on the patient.

The second law of A.R.T. - 2-Pointing: if the examiner therapy-localizes more then one structure, ganglion etc. during the A.R.T.-body scan or examination, 2 structures (or more) may be affected by the same toxin or infection or one structure may affect one or more others . If the indicator muscle weakens, while holding one of these structures but strengthens, while holding another (that weakened, when held alone), there is a) either a cause/effect relationship between the two or b) they are both affected by the same toxin/infection . The 2nd law of A.R.T. is therefore really a variation of the 1st law.

The Third Law of A.R.T.- Resonance between the Examiner and the Patient : the examiner's body acts exactly like any other substance held into the energy field of the patient. If the doctor is toxic with the same substance that is causing the patient's illness or that is stored in one ore more of the patient's tissues, the test will be affected as outlined in the 1st and 2nd law of A.R.T. Therefore, the 3rd law is really a variation of the 1st law also (but overlooked in any other school of kinesiology).

Yes, they take some abuse from people such as the person posting above who seems to delight in giving me a hard time whenever possible. Ignore is my motto. But they change their tune rapidly when they realize the true potential of ART. One of these days we will find a rememdy for ignorance and stupidity and a no-fail Lyme treatment. Our Primary Care Physican admitted to us recently that he did not think my husband would be around for very long when he first saw him a couple of years ago in a metal brace from neck to buttocks, thin without any muscles. His mouth dropped open when my husband walked into his office a couple of months ago, without cane, without walker, without wheelchair, having regained a lot of weight, symptom-free. That at the age of 80.

I learned enough of ART, so that I can test my husband (in minutes) whether the abx is still okay (when he still needed them), the vitamin is still okay, or whether he all of a sudden has developed an allergy to a food, whatever. I can test him whether the soap he is using is upsetting his system. I can test him which channel he should be using next on the KMT. This is how we often stopped a medicine and waited until he tested okay for it again.

And my husband can test me on all of these, anything I want. A hand lotion, a lipstick, am I allergic to this or that.............

Of course, I do not go into all the levels as described below. I have no need for that. For my husband and me and the patients who learn this, and are encouraged to learn it, it is a Godsent.

No, medical school does not teach this.

Can you imagine being a mother and being able to learn to test your child and at least being able to help yourself between doctor visits?

Doing ART does not mean we have not done any lab testing. Anything of a very serious nature was followed up by a lab test, but in many cases conclusive tests are just not available. As in Lyme Disease. We knew long before we had a positive lab test that we had Lyme. My husband knew long before a challenge test that he was severely aluminum toxic, etc. etc.

Here is the description of ART:

"Autonomic Response Testing

What is A.R.T. Location Patient Explanation

Jonathan Frewing.
ART Practitioner.
Monthly Refresher
Course Instructor
in Sussex England.

An Introduction to ART:

Autonomic Response Testing (ART) is an unique and comprehensive alternative medical model. It has been developed and synthesized over the past 20 years by the neurologist Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt M.D., Ph.D. This form of testing enables practitioners to reliably evaluate a patient's health, on four interconnected levels. These are the Physical, Electromagnetic (or energetic), Mental and Intuitive bodies.

During his 12 years running one of the most acclaimed specialist pain clinics in America, Dr. Klinghardt attributes his success to a clear understanding that while a patient may present with a physical symptom, its source may frequently be found on one of the 'higher' levels. This fact is no less true where chronic conditions are concerned.

The Five Levels Of Healing:

Interaction of the First and Second Levels of Healing: (Physical and Energetic)
As a neurologist, Klinghardt could clearly see, how an electrical disturbance in the (autonomic) nervous system, could cause physical symptoms in an apparently unrelated area of the body. No amount of attention to a shoulder injury, for example, would relieve the pain if its cause were at a 'higher' level.

One level above the physical, is the electromagnetic (or energetic) body. The Autonomic Nervous System, responds to and channels energy throughout the physical body. Here, one might find a surgical scar or damaged tooth compromising the performance of the intricate network of the nervous system. This in turn could cause the shoulder pain.

Discovery of such an energetic disruption, and its subsequent treatment, would lead to an instant rebalancing of the energetics and immediate cessation of the shoulder pain.

The Third Level of Healing: (Mental)
One level higher, is the 'Mental' body, and here again, the ART practitioner may assess for disturbance. Unresolved Thought processes may also hinder the proper performance of the body's Energetics, which in turn may result in a Physical condition or symptom (in this case the shoulder injury).

Dr. Klinghardt has developed Mental Field Therapy from the initial discoveries by Roger Callaghan Ph.D., as the most potent means of addressing this level of healing. It combines the reintegration of the mental body with the level below, which is the energetic body of the nervous system and meridians.

The Fourth Level of Healing: (Intuitive)
Assessing and working with the intuitive body, may be achieved with colour and the use of PK (Psycho Kinesiology) or APN (Applied Psycho-Neurobiology). This technique has its roots in the discoveries made by Dr Hamer, who observed that emotions affect and are caught up in specific organs. Fear for example overstimulates the kidneys, and an over-stimulation of the kidneys in turn causes fear. If a person doesn't overcome their fear in a given situation, their kidneys may be overstressed from that day on.

Through Autonomic Response Testing, the practitioner may again uncover these unresolved psycho-emotional conflicts, which have ramifications on the mental thought patterns, thereby upsetting the energetic body and resulting in a physical symptom.

Seen from this perspective, it is no surprise that a persistent back problem (for example) with stressing kidneys will not heal with purely physical interventions. The A.R.T. practitioner has the protocols to establish what level the problem started on, and work on that level to 'uncouple' and relieve the underlying cause. The same would be true of the shoulder injury discussed earlier.

The Fifth Level:
This is the level of spiritual belief, and is not trespassed on by ART.

How Does the Practitioner Find these Issues?
Autonomic Response Testing has evolved from Kinesiology. As the name suggests, it is a process of assessing the response of that part of the nervous system over which we have no conscious control (the ANS). The Autonomic Nervous System is a hugely dense network of nerve fibres running throughout the physical body. 80% by weight is in the skin, and it is so fine, that if all the other structures of the body were stripped away, each individual would still be thoroughly recognisable.

Dr. Klinghardt's intricate understanding of the nervous system sets his assessment of the phenomenon of 'muscle testing' apart from all other schools of thought.

To him, it is evident that such a fine and intricate unconscious control system so close to the surface of the body, must be continuously on the look out for minute changes in a person's environment.

Just as a shark with its poor eyesight in murky waters, knows the shape and size of its prey through electromagnetic conductivity of the skin, so we scan our surroundings, but on an autonomic (unwitting) level.

This superfine network is not only scanning the surroundings, but is also connected to the organs and structures of the body. Light pressure on an area of skin, whose nervous network connects to a healthy organ, should not evoke any (autonomic) response. The same pressure over a compromised organ however, will instantly cause an involuntary reaction. It is this subtle, unwitting nerve response that gives rise to the phenomenon of changing muscle strength used in both kinesiology and Autonomic Response Testing.

As demonstrated with lie detection, physical contact is not necessary for involuntary reactions to occur. With polygraphs, respiratory rate, heart rate, blood pressure and electro-dermal activity are measured simply in response to verbal questions. It is the same Autonomic Nervous System controlling these factors as controls the tension and resistance transferred to the muscle spindles, which practitioners pick up in muscle testing. And these muscle spindles also react to auditory input.

What is more remarkable, is that the human body responds to substances it recognises even before it comes into contact with them.

The body's 'radar' will pick up and respond to the signature of all substances in its enormous library of experience, causing good and bad weakness and good and bad strengths. The ART practitioner assesses these strengths and weaknesses against another set of rules elucidated by the internationally acclaimed physicist Dr. Fritz Albert Popp.

Photon Emission:
As popularised by Lynn McTaggart in her book 'The Field' Dr. Popp was the first scientist in the West to demonstrate that one of the major languages of communication between living cells is the language of light. He not only demonstrated that photon emission is a key to synchronized biochemical change, but also that light emission and its level of organisation and coherence could be assessed.

Dr Klingardt, in developing ART, has introduced a means of using this information to assess how a person's photon emission and therefore physical health is pushed out of balance in order to accommodate a toxin, pathogen or stress.

The Seven Factors:
Much is made of the 'Stress' of modern life. The truth is however, that the humans in the West have finally eliminated the major stresses of basic survival. We are the only animals without predators, and can be sure of our daily food. So where does the stress come from?

Again with a profound knowledge of neurology, Dr. Klinghardt has isolated seven major obstacles to our health. Any of these factors, and more frequently a combination of several, may keep our nervous system in a permanently alert or stressed state. It is this relentless hyper-alertness, which is so destructive to health. These seven factors which must be addressed are:

Food Allergies
Heavy Metal Toxicity
Solvent Toxicity
Interference Fields (such as scars or teeth causing nervous disruption)
Jaw Misalignment
Mental/Psycho-emotional Conflicts
Geopathic and Geophysical Stress (EMF from power or earth)

In ART it is essential to assess which of the above is a contributory factor in a patient's disease condition and relieve them of that stress as a first step towards regaining health.

It is only after identifying these factors that we then move on to assess for 'Direct Resonance' with particular pathogens, or search out the remedies which the body responds to with the greatest state of relief.