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EZ-E
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GiGI, I know you've problably posted many ways, but I am ready to find out my levels. I'm on a budget, no insurance. Hair teast? Or what? Thanks all for any info.....
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I wouldn't recommend a hair analysis because hair is not a good indication as to the level of mercury in your system.

My doc explained to me that hair care products or environment could cause mercury in your hair. He recommends a 24 hour urine test.

I've heard some say the mercury challenege test is the best. Honestly, I don't knwo but feel urine would be a more accurate analysis versus hair.

I just did a heavy metals test a few weeks back through my LLMD and it cost $130.00.


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EZ-E
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Thanks much Snowboarder.....Most labs ok? No special lab, any better?

[This message has been edited by EZ-E (edited 02 February 2005).]


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EZ-E, Snowboarder is right. No hairtest at this point. Reasons: Heavy metals do not live in the blood. They may move through once in a while. If they are not in the blood, they cannot get into the hair. Very simple. They probably if you have them like most people do are sitting in intracellular spaces. They are sitting in the cell walls of Fungi and help the body to keep the metals in a biologically contained form. That means they don't kill you right off, and do their damage anyhow. The metals are often sitting wrapped up in the cholesterol deposits. The body makes more cholesterol in order to accommodate the heavy metals and protect itself. That it narrows the venes and arteries because of that, that's another story. We are fighting cholesterol - yet it is protecting us. Low cholesterol, under 200, becomes dangerous. The hair test tells an experienced practitioner re minerals - what it means. After detox starts, then some metal may show in the hair, which means that the detox is working.

There is no test to tell how much is remaining in the body and where it is located. ART can do that. This is important, because it can be helped out with different mechanisms and agents if we know where it is sitting. There is no single detox agent that takes metals out of the body all the way. It takes different ones to accomplish that. If you start detoxing the brain before detoxing the joints and extracellular spaces, there will be a traffic jam that can be devastating and pain ful. The easy-to-get to metals have to be mobilized first; then comes the brain and brain, stem, where it usually is sitting.
That's where our hormonal disturbances come from. Pituitary and hormone producing glands are all up there. Mercury blocks them and they stop to function the way we need it to be healthy.

Doctor's Data Metal Test costs $99. at our clinic. You hould have a DMPS challenge to encourage some metal to come out. Often none comes out because the body is not in a position to release it. Sometimes people get 4 or 5 tests without metals showing, yet they are in reality full of the stuff. If the minerals are out of sync; if emotional problems are holding them in; there are many reasons.

That's why ART is preferred. It can be muscle tested and found out easily whether you are toxic or not. A good muscle tester will find it.

There are many around - look at alternative clinics, etc. Many naturopath or chiropractors use this method. If it is found that way, at least you know where you stand.

If Snowboarder comes back not showing any, or just some other toxic metals that appear often before the mercury does, it does not mean they are not there. Dr. Klinghardt finds the metals in practically every person that has an ailment. Certainly in every Lyme patient, without exception. It's sad that people do not want to face it.

In other words, the tests are just as inconclusive as the tests for Lyme. The only test that is realiable is a lymphocyte test, the MELISA test.

No insurance pays unless you come up with a lead toxicity. Last I heard.

Hope this helps. Feel free to e-mail me if I can help. It is extremely difficult for me to say anything about this any longer on the Lymenet. I just do not want to fight this battle any more, this ignorance.
And when people start using foul language in expressing their opinion about what I say, that is the finale for me.

Okay, now I am heading for my sweet bed.
Hope this helps.

P.S. If this sounds sleepy, I am.


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"Common mercury methylators include candida, staph, strep and E. Coli. Mercury volatilzers may emerge AFTER antibiotic exposure."
http://www.danasview.net/dan01mc1.htm


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A Naturopathic (holistic) physician who uses BioTerrain or similar testing protocols can detect the influence of heavy metals on the system.

You won't get a printout of each metal and a number, but that needn't matter since the "usual" culprits are chemically similar in the body and chelation is much the same for most of the common metals.


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I love taking a break from Lymenet, coming back, and finding out I've missed a feud worthy of the Hatfields and McCoys.

I know Gigi doesn't like NAC, but it doesn't seem like there's any harm in trying it once or twice, and seeing if there's a noticeable change in symptoms.

Also, Doctor's Data only charged me $55, plus $25 for the "equipment," if you will. This may be because they have a deal with my LLMD, but it could be worth talking to them about your financial situation.


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Liz 28, could you let me know what you are talking about re: NAC and Doctor's Data or point me to where I can info on that. Thanks.

tj


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If you do the urine collection for any of the heavy metal tests, be sure you do it the right way. Otherwise it is money down the tubes. I posted about it here a few weeks ago, telling exactly how the urine needs to be collected and and how it has to be put into the vial before shipping it to the lab. Usually the patient does that if it is a 24 hour collection. Most doctors do not instruct their patients on this. So the tests come back negative, just because the proper care was not taken. The mercury may be hanging on your bathroom walls and never made it to the lab. And of course most of the heavy metals are still sitting in your body while you are under the impression that heavy metals are not a problem for you.

Wrong.

If you have someone test you with ART or other reliable form of energy testing, you will get a quick answer, and you can go and decide from there.

Yes, mercury vapor is not visible and you cannot smell it. The metallic mercury leaves the container immediately when left open, turns to vapor, and from there you can take it into the body again, where it turns into a metallic form again depositing somewhere in your body. I won't go into the the different forms of mercury. Just take all precautions when you do the test.

I detailed it more in my older post.

Take care.


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EZ-E
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Thanks ALL! What's that 10 choices? Geesh. I read about the kid who was sick from well water on here a week or so back. They used the hair test, to figure him out.???
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When I get my heavy metals test back, I'll let you know the name of the lab which hoepfully will be fairly soon.
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Thanks SBoarder.........& all!
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