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treepatrol
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Saving Trouts post http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/031389.html


After entering the body, the infective larvae grow to become adult male or female worms. The males are only 5 cm or so long, but the females may be up to a metre long. The adult worms are wrapped together in a nodule like a ball of string. The worms reproduce sexually and the female releases tens of thousands of microfilariae every day.. As the female can live for 10 years or so, she literally releases millions and millions of microfilariae.

The microfilariae migrate throughout the host's body, especially to the skin and the eye. In the skin they wait to be taken up by another black fly to continue the life cycle. If this does not occur within 18 months or so, the microfilariae die. There is no inflammatory response to live microfilariae, but dead or dying microfilariae provoke an intense local response.


They sure act like spirochetes huh?? Cousins?
From this site.


http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/179_11_011203/tay10553_fm.html[/URL]


Freeky coincedence?

Spirochetes Borrelia burgdorferi

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UGHHHH!
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You mean now we have to take are dog's HeartGuard! LOL.

Yeah, you wonder why we don't worry about this. We do it for our pets.

Ivermectin


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Tree,

Could you edit this so it doesn't go wider than normal width please?

I need to have the view the LARGEST possible due to my lower vision eyesight. If I reduce it to large, then the BOLD disappears too and then I can't read anything.

This looks really interesting, and I want to be able to read this interesting topic. Thanks for your consideration Tree. Betty G.


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quote:
Originally posted by bettyg:
Tree,

Could you edit this so it doesn't go wider than normal width please?

I need to have the view the LARGEST possible due to my lower vision eyesight. If I reduce it to large, then the BOLD disappears too and then I can't read anything.

This looks really interesting, and I want to be able to read this interesting topic. Thanks for your consideration Tree. Betty G.



Betty I tryed but I think its the pics size that are causing it to extend itsef wider.

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Tree...in case you missed this (posted under Trout's original post):

Trout, in the article you quoted:
"Tests on similar fibers taken from Bishop's skin and those of several other
patients in the Bay Area show them to be ***tiny tubes of protein.***But how and
why the filaments are formed remains a mystery for now."

From my first link (watch for the tiny tubes of protein):

"1. Pili (fimbriae) (def)

As seen in the previous section, pili enable some organisms to adhere to receptors on target host cells (see Fig. 1) and thus colonize and resist flushing by the body. Pili are thin, protein tubes originating from the cytoplasmic membrane and are found in virtually all gram-negative bacteria but not in many gram-positive bacteria.

The pilus has a shaft composed of a protein called pilin. At the end of the shaft is the adhesive tip structure having a shape corresponding to that of specific glycoprotein or glycolipid receptors on a host cell (see Fig. 2).

Because both the bacteria and the host cells have a negative charge, pili may enable the bacteria to bind to host cells without initially having to get close enough to be pushed away by electrostatic repulsion.

Once attached to the host cell, the pili can depolymerize and enable adhesions in the bacterial cell wall to make more intamate contact.

Bacteria are constantly losing and reforming pili as they grow in the body and the same bacterium may switch the adhesive tips of the pili in order to adhere to different types of cells and evade immune defenses (see Fig. 3). "

Once again...this is nothing new...basic microbiology.


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Well....now I wish I hadn't seen these wretched looking worms. Is this related to Morgellon's Disease? or not?

There is nothing like this info on the Morgellons site.

Gotta be something different...please, I hope!


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quote:
Originally posted by Marnie:
Tree...in case you missed this (posted under Trout's original post):

Trout, in the article you quoted:
"Tests on similar fibers taken from Bishop's skin and those of several other
patients in the Bay Area show them to be ***tiny tubes of protein.***But how and
why the filaments are formed remains a mystery for now."

From my first link (watch for the tiny tubes of protein):

"1. Pili (fimbriae) (def)

As seen in the previous section, pili enable some organisms to adhere to receptors on target host cells (see Fig. 1)

and thus colonize and resist flushing by the body. Pili are thin, protein tubes originating from the cytoplasmic membrane and are found in virtually all gram-negative bacteria but not in many gram-positive bacteria.

The pilus has a shaft composed of a protein called pilin. At the end of the shaft is the adhesive tip structure having a shape corresponding to that of specific glycoprotein or glycolipid receptors on a host cell (see Fig. 2).

Because both the bacteria and the host cells have a negative charge, pili may enable the bacteria to bind to host cells without initially having to get close enough to be pushed away by electrostatic repulsion.

Once attached to the host cell, the pili can depolymerize and enable adhesions in the bacterial cell wall to make more intamate contact.

Bacteria are constantly losing and reforming pili as they grow in the body and the same bacterium may switch the adhesive tips of the pili in order to adhere to different types of cells and evade immune defenses (see Fig. 3).

Once again...this is nothing new...basic microbiology.


Thanks Marnie.


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quote:
Originally posted by nan:
Well....now I wish I hadn't seen these wretched looking worms. Is this related to Morgellon's Disease? or not?

There is nothing like this info on the Morgellons site.

Gotta be something different...please, I hope!


I was showing the similarities between the way filarial worm and spirohetes ball up for protection and mating.

There are many types.
[Brugia malayi] [Brugia timori] [Loa loa] [Mansonella ozzardi]
[Mansonella perstans] [Mansonella streptocerca]
[Onchocerca volvulus] [Wuchereria bancrofti] http://www.dpd.cdc.gov/DPDx/HTML/ImageLibrary/Filariasis_il.htm



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