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I was on a no white flour/no white sugar diet before starting antibiotics. Now I started antibiotics this week, and I'm following Dr. B's guidelines,but I have a question. When he says no flour, what does this include? Can I have whole wheat flour? How about oatmeal? Is it all grains, or just flour? Like could I have rice flour?
I don't want to keep bothering my LLMD, and I figured you guys would know, so I came here first.
Thanks!
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I would "count carbs" but also exclude white flours of any kind. Exclude potatoes, starches. In as much as grains are starches, you should avoid most.
If you have to have grains, then go "whole." I personally don't eat any grains. Sure, I do my share of cheating, but I know my body doesn't do well on them.
Is there such a thing as brown rice flour?
Dr B probably subscribes to the "carbs feed keets" mode of thinking. I agree. So he probably means NO FLOUR.
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Okay, thanks. That doesn't leave a whole lot for me to eat. My doctor doesn't want me to be eating dairy products either, but I may have to make my own choice on that one. He said not to eat them because they're highly allergy producing and contain casein - but without that it means I'm pretty much eating meat and vegetables and that's it.
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Well meat and veggies are good for you.
I do have protien shakes also.....made from whey protien, low carb soy milk, stevia, alchol freeextrct flavors, guar gum.
Have a bit of gluten free (rice pasta) now and again. Popcorn on occasion.
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You dont need to eat only meat and green vegetables. I'm on a candia diet, and Im vegetarian-no meat, no dairy. Cheese and dairy would be worse for your candida than grain, he said no flour, there is a difference. I have bought and been loaned and been reading lots of candida diet books, They all vary slightly on some details, but agree on most. In a nutshell;
-Eat lots of veggies, especially green veggies, brocollie cabbage family veggies, carrots onions. One book says no potatoes, the other says red or purple potatoes are ok. Both are ok on winter squash. I compromise by rarely having potatoes.
- No white flour or sugar, of course. But certain whole grains are ok. Especially millet, quinoa, amaranth. BED diet book has it ok to eat buckwheat. They sell cream of buckwheat cereal at the health food store. Quinoa is great as a side dish with stir fry veggies or leftover quinoa tossed into soup. There seems to be agreement to stay away from gluten grains, ie wheat at first. I eat occasional brown rice and brown rice products( rice cakes, mochi), not as highly recomended, but there are worse things. I have cooked with brown rice flour, quinoa flour, not too sucessfully. The Flat bread I made out of Teff flour was realy good tho.
The Complete Candida Yeast Guide Book by Jeanne Marie Martin is my favorite for recipes, I just found this one, it is more vegetarian friendly than most, and the recipes are good.
-The above book has lots of recipes using beans, I use beans a few times a week.
- There seems to be concensus on almonds as best out of the nut family.
- Most sources have tofu and unsweetened soy milk as fine. I have made pudding and hot chocolat out of these with cocoa powder and sweetened with stevia.
-Almond butter mixed with carob powder and rolled in unsweetened coconut flakes is a good high calore snack.
Once the craving wore off, and I found more recipes, I no longer feel as limited, bored or deprived. My weight is also now stabilized, I did not starve as I initially feared.
Get some good books for recipes, or on the internet, find what appeals to you. It will get easier
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quote:Originally posted by sarahlea1717: Okay, thanks. That doesn't leave a whole lot for me to eat....but without that it means I'm pretty much eating meat and vegetables and that's it.
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Thanks! I was going to ask if anyone had any recommendations for cookbooks. I'll check that one out.
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I've actually gotten to like this diet. I feel so much better. I eat lots of vegetables, much more nuts, meat & fish than before. I've added more fat to my diet (coconut oil, ghee, butter, olive oil, nuts).
I order all meat online, grassfed, hormone and antibiotic free... mercola.com is a good source. I eat some fish but avoid the high mercury ones.
I eat some goats milk yoghurt with probiotics mixed in. A little cheese is OK for me.
In the first months I didn't eat any fruit, wheat, flours, grains, sugars.
Now I am able to eat a little white (brown is worse for me now) rice occaisionally and have cheated with pasta but feel worse after. If I need to "cheat" rice noodles or mung bean threads are better than wheat. I limit potatoes and have problems with turnips, beet & carrots which are too high in sugar. Absolutely no breads, pizza or other yeasty foods.
If I eat the wrong food I get a funny taste right away and my tongue gets coated.
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My doctor doesn't want me to be eating dairy products either, but I may have to make my own choice on that one. He said not to eat them because they're highly allergy producing and contain casein - but without that it means I'm pretty much eating meat and vegetables and that's it.
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