After reading SkyKing's book, I am considering rife, but as I know zero about electricity, I know I cannot build my own. Before I spend the bucks I just wanted to see how the results were for others.
Skyking, your book was informative and easy to read. I'd like to know a treatment schedule for beginners.
Clark Zapper (32KC 555 oscilator). Beck Zapper (4Hz reversing relay). Rife RF driven Argon tube (612 tube, 4.5 Mhz). "Poor Mans Rife" audio driven Argon tube. Doug Coil (smaller amplifiers). And a few others....
The Doug Coil is by far the most effective. It stopped my migraines and dizziness. Multiple treatments have reduced arthrits pain to a minimum. (Hips still bother me).
I built them all myself from plans available on the Internet. I have been off antibiotics for over 2 years. I had late lyme, undiagnosed for 20+ years. I had been on antibiotics for 2 years and could not quit without becoming sicker than before treatment.
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I am using one.
I am on antibiotics, and wanted to try the rife too.
I bought a cheap on called the noriftrife.com
I herxed like heck on it for awhile, now not as much herxing, but still get sick. When I first used it the herxing was like.... in bed for 3-4 days, saying to myself I would not use it as long the next time becuase the herxing was going to KILL me.
I may very well have to buy a stronger one... have heard this.
I am glad I bought this one, because I know that rife works for me. How much so, I dont know, I have been doing it for about 3 months off and on.
I would buy the noriftrife.com
See how you do, if positive results, go on to more expensive stronger machines.
At least you will get a feel for rife by buying this one, and not loose that much money.
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Hey Bob. Bryan's book says the Doug Coil weighs 200 lbs. Is that true? YIKES! How much room does it take up!?
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I've got a noriftrife and am using it right now. It make me very fatigued when using it. My knees feel good for about 30min. but that's about it. Lyme tertiary freq. seems to work best for me.
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Do you have to put all your credit cards, computer disks, and audio and video tapes in another building when you turn one on?
They would seem to be a very efficient bulk magnetic eraser!
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Lymetoo,
I have been using my norift for about 3 months.
Is it helping? I think so, but have to give it awhile longer.
I use my pendulum to pick the numbers, and this is a HUGE part I feel in having the rife work. Many who dont self test the numbers just pick numbers that others used.
I am into whatever works for me.
The noriftrife is only part of what I am doing, I am doing other things as well.
If you have the rife, then def hook it up. It took me a few days to figure it out, but I did. My head was foggy, soooo foggy, it was from the candida.
I finally got it hooked up and started to rife. I went HEAD on into it and rifed much too long and was sooo sick in bed, but later after a week, bounced back and was feeling something happening, a good thing.
I can totally understand how they say that the first 3 months is lots of herxing, it really is. You dont know if you are getting better or not, but i kept at it and now, after 3 months, am going with it.
I was rifing every day, then was sooo sick. Nead dead. So then rifed 3 times a week, still too much, now stopped for about 1 week or more and let my body bounce back, then rife 1-2 times a week after that.
I am totally into the pendulm, I ask if I shoudl rife today, and it lets me know. It works for me, so I go with it.
I have a 240watt stereo.
I am glad I bought it, and may very well have to buy another one, maybe not, will see. A stronger one that is.
AS WELL, I found that if my candida was out of hand, my rifing was too much for me to handle. Candida overgrowth for me, makes me weak, and when I am weak RIFE is not a good thing, it near kills me.
As I got the candida more under control, my boydy was stronger, and the herxing from rifing was not as bad.
I rememeber, the first few weeks of rifing, about 3 days later, I had such I mean SUCH severe depression it was unreal. I was lying in bed holding my head ready to have my mind split it was so terrible. I had rifed for too long, way too long. I just wanted to KILL them all right away and get on with life.
It was so unreal how I herxed 3 days later from rifing. I mean, I was not even rifing, and here I am herxing! A man told me that when you rife, you damage some of the bacteria, and they can hide, then the next day, float out into the blood stream and your immune system finds them and kills them, so you then herx. This was so! right.
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Heath, I have a 200W RMS stereo. I can only get to about 1/2 volume or a little more. Depends on the freq. How far can you trun your volume knob?
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Did you mean you can only turn it up 1/2 way because the amplifier overloads, or because of the effect on you of higher power?
(Just curious, this is a sincere question.)
I know alot of consumer electronics rated 200 watt or whatever cannot really be operated at that level without severe distortion or even burning out if operated at peak levels very long.
I would think a badly distorted waveform due to an overdriven amp would not serve your purpose as well.
There is probably more 'industrial' duty equipment where a 200 watt amp can really be operated at 200 watts.
This is interesting what you are doing, and even more interesting is that it has such an effect as people say it has.
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Hello,
I keep my volume at a 2. I dont turn it up high, because was told it was not a good idea.
I tested the volume first on a speaker, turned it to a 2 volume and it was fairly loud. I turned it up then to a 7 and it BLEW my speaker, so am now just rifing with the volume at a 2. If I turn it up higher, like to a 5 I can feel a strong current going through me, and it is not a good feeling so keep it at a 2 volume.
OK! here is something I have found out for myself. I use my pendlum to pick numbers, it is working for me. What I have noticed is that the numbers that I then rife, I try turning up the volume and can feel a current at 3 volume.
OK, let me try to word this right with my messed up head. hmmmm, when a number is the RIGHT number for me to rife, I can feel the current at a 3-4 volume. If the number is not for me, as in, not effective for me, I cannot feel the current at volume 3 or even a volume 5-6. Sometimes, from what I have read and learned, a frequency for lyme may not be effective one week, but the next week it is.
I also noticed that when I first started to rife, I could feel the current at a 2, and I was so sick from herxing.
So, what I can say is that, the more you can feel the current at a 2-3, the more effective that number(frequency) is for you. Maybe this is so, not sure.
The more able the bacteria is able to be killed. Seems when you feel the current on the noriftrife, at a 2-3 volume, that is THE TIME to rife, because the bugs are easy to kill.
This is what I have found, so maybe not for you, but seems to be for me. I am still learning all the time.
REMEMBER the full moon, try to see if you can feel the current at a lower volume, this may mean more able to kill bacteria.
If you can get into some sort of self-testing method, you can then find THE right numbers for you, and save you time, and guessing. I use the pendulum, some others use other methods to self test, such as a form of finger muscle testing. I have tried a few self testing methods, and for me, the only one that worked for me, was the pendulum. I knew of one man that had the knack for the finger muscle testing, it worked for him.
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can people share the machines? could a few of us who are close together work out a schedule or something?
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James H, I can only go 1/2 way because it starts to hurt, ele shock, over that. I have been turning it as high as I can stand it. I've found higher freq. take more power to feel them.
If you've ever had physical therapy where they put the eletrodes on ya to eletric massage ya. That's what it feels like.
The level of fatigue I have today is like what I had when I was first batteling Lyme back in 01.
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Anyone who can hook up a home stereo can build their own notrife type rife machine for very little money. If I'd had know what was in the kit I could have built if for free.I already had the nessaray cables.
Then plug the y-cable "RCA ends" to an input on the back of a home audio reciever,140W reciever is the minimun. Plug the "mini plug end" into your computer sound card, same place your computer speakers plug into.
Hook one end of the speaker wires to the audio reciever A or B channel speaker connectors. Install the alligator clips on the other end of the speaker wires. Put the wrist straps on ya and hook the alligator clips to the wrist straps.
Now open the square wave program and type in what freq. ya wanna run.
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Hiler, before I bought a rife machine, I was lead to a naturopath who had a Beam Ray machine that she was using to treat cancer patients and all other types of illness. I was her first lyme patient.
Start searching in your area for alternative care doctors. Ask questions at the health store. There might even be a rife group in your area that has what they call chat rooms, where many people gather and use one rife machine and they run different frequencies for whom ever is in the group.
Are you near or in a large city in Illinois? The manufacture of my machine might know of someone near you that could help you find one to try. My machine is one of the most expensive. That was the one I was lead to so that's what I bought.
I've been using it for about 20 months. I've made more progress with it than I made in 3 1/2 yrs doing abx. I'm not symptom free yet, but I've discovered many other issues that have kept me from total recovery.
My rife machine will be apart of my life even after remission. I'd never get rid of it. I totally believe in rife machines and their ability to help heal many illnesses.
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Bryan, I just ordered your book, it took about one minute, and I can not type fast.
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Yes a true Doug machine is very heavy. You can mount it in a rack with casters for portability.
Yes a Doug Coil will erase your credit cards, but they only need to be about 4 feet away to be safe.
True Rife devices are RF, esentially a 4.5 Mhz AM transmitter with audio frequencies (or perhaps higher there is some discussion the he used frequencies 10 times higher than todays frequencies).
Modern "Rife like" devices are RF, magnetic, and there are many other variations.
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I forgot to say the the Doug Coil and the magnetic pulser are electromagnetic devices.
The No Rift Rife actually passes a small electronic current through you. That would be safe if the amplifier and electricity are properly wired and the output voltage is kept under 50 volts, that is about 25 to 30 watts.
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Bob,
You write,
"The No Rift Rife actually passes a small electronic current through you. That would be safe if the amplifier and electricity are properly wired and the output voltage is kept under 50 volts, that is about 25 to 30 watts."
I am using a 240 watt stereos, are you saying this is not safe? the noriftrife would then not be safe if it is is hooked up to a 240 watt stereo?
thanks,
Trish
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Trish,
As a former norifter....let me tell you this.
The power is controlled by the volume...start it lowand then SLOWLY turn it up.
With this caution...you should be fine.
Trout
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I read a study a while back somewhere else that showed that 50 volts or more can hurt people.
Of course current is a bigger factor, a much higher voltage can be used if the current is really really limited, like in a defibulator.
A 250 watt stero can likely put out about 90 volts at full volume. The QSC1500 used in the Doug Coil setup can put out about 180 volts if I remember right.
Now here is another interesting fact. The volume control is not linear. 1/2 volume is not 1/2 the output voltage. It is likely about 1/10 the full output. If you do not have an AC voltmeter to mark the volume control just use a lower power amplifier, or keep the volume low.
I really prefer the magnetic coil devices as I feel thay are safer to use. They are however bigger, heavier and more expensive.
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Bob,
Are magnetic coil devices DC?
Are the rife AC? I tried to find this but could not.
Also, can you use frequency numbers for the coil devices?
For some reason, I feel the DC fields are what I need.
DC is safe, AC is not as safe. Now, is this true, or am I just going NUTS! feeling this?
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Pulsed DC is essentially AC. Your heart produces an AC field. AC is safe as long as the frequency is low. Frequencies up to 20 Hz are naturally produced in your body.
I would not recomend anything over 2,000 Hz. Microwaves (over 900,000,000 hz) IMO are deadly.
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