The best cavitational surgeons say remove them if you are ill and forget about the cavitat.

I am doing this myself in the next month.

I've never found anything published by Hussar. Where did you find it?

Kulacz recently closed shop after pressure from the powers that be. So unfortunately I have to either fly to Reno to see Hussar or possibly McClure in Wash, DC (though some reports I've heard say he's not the one). Dr. Keramati in LA, CA is also very good and recommended.

Hi aliyalex,

I have had my jaw evaluated by the Cavitat. There is a certain measure
of skill in doing the scan and in the reading of the result. It is an ultra sound technology.

The Cavitat was developed to detect cavitations. They can also be spotted by a skilled dentist
on a panorex x-ray. Read about cavitations here:
http://www.altcorp.com/AffinityLaboratory/cavitation.htm

Within the article there is a link to Cavitat which will give more info on that.

The only safe approach to root canals is to eventually remove them. After the procedure to
remove a root canal, a special procedure is used to remove the dental ligament
and thoroughly clean out the extraction site to prevent a cavitation from forming there
in the future.

The approach to cavitations has been evolving over the last 15 or so years. It was once
believed that if there were cavitations at extraction sites...it automatically called for oral
surgery in that area to scrape the bone again and "get rid" of the cavitation. Unfortunately,
many of us have had this done by highly qualified dentists multiple times only to still have
cavitations still turn up either
on the panorex or Cavitat or both.

Because of this, more and more bio dentists are saying......if you have no pain, leave it
alone.

Happy researching........and good luck!!!

Healing thoughts......lightfoot

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Dr K is amazing...its definitely upsetting that he isnt practicing anymore b/c hes a brillant dr. but hes still "around" and I think he might still do consultations, just not the surgery - check out his website or call him to find out. I've heard very mixed things about the Tijuana clinic. Wish I could help further, but only had experience with dr K.

I have no pain, but according to Hussar and others, have cavitations.

I will have the 2 root canal teeth extracted even though there is no pain.

I am assuming you have done this and had bad experiences.

Would love to hear about them, as I know all surgery is risky and I don't want to have to repeat it over and over. Maybe I will see the Washington D.C. Dr. with the Cavitat first, although Kulacz did not recommend using the cavitat.

I am confused!

Chris

Review:

BEYOND AMALGAM
The Health Hazard Posed by Jawbone Cavitations

Cavitations are holes left in the jawbone by an incompletely extracted tooth - and they can cause just as many problems as infected root canals. Susan Stockton's much needed book supplements Dr. George Meinig's explanation of cavitations in Root Canal Cover-Up, showing how they can be a little-appreciated source of disease.

Dr. Christopher J. Hussar, a dentist and osteopath, has performed surgery for cavitation removal for many years. "I have been privileged," he writes, "to be able to remove small areas of chronically infected dead bone from people's jaws, resulting in the cure of such diverse conditions as headaches, blindness, migratory arthritis, auto immune disease, tinnitus,

fibromyalgia, ear pain, neck pain and many others. I have performed oral surgery on patients and have subsequently seen what appeared to be a cancerous mass essentially disappear from that patient's abdomen ... 80% of patient illness I find in my practice to originate in the mouth. Daily,I continue to be astounded at the worldwide impairment that oral disease has on human heath."

To prevent cavitations, there is a specific technique required when removing teeth, particularly those infected teeth that have been treated with root canal therapy. Left behind, the presence of infected matter is infrequently discovered, but it can cause and perpetuate virtually any disorder in the body. Dr. J. Bouquot, at the medical and dental schools of the University of West Virginia, claims that 73% of trigeminal neuralgia patients had total relief by eliminating cavitations.

Ms. Stockton writes from her own experience and intensive research, outlining the various problems caused by cavitations, how to detect them and the protocol for treating them.This is a must-read book - for both the layman and health professional.

Health and Healing Wisdom Newsletter, vol.22, No. 2

Excerpt:
Page 24:
Following extraction, bacteria and their toxins become trapped in the periodontal ligament. These bacteria mutate due to the anaerobic (lack of oxygen) conditions and begin the job of decomposing dead tissue. In time, therefore, the periodontal ligament will be broken down, but areas of necrosis will still remain in the bone and can spread to other portions of the jawbone if proper treatment is not received.

This lack of proper healing is not at all apparent from a visual inspection of the mouth. The top of the socket will ultimately heal over with bone and new gum tissue. However, it is only a superficial healing, for holes (cavitations) frequently remain a couple of millimeters below the bony cap of the socket as a result of avascular condtions.

Deadly Toxins

Biopsies of tissue removed from jawbone cavitations have revealed the presence of as many as 20-30 species of bacteria..

End Excerpt.

Here is the address fro Susan Stockton's site, she has several articles of interest to the discussion: http://www.healthcarealternatives.net/index.html

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Hi again!

I talked to her a few years ago (around 99, 00 or 01) and she'd had cavitation surgery performed by the best of them at least three times!!! She has been a real pioneer for all of us in this.

I know that Dr H was one of her docs.....maybe she finally has had resolution. I just sent her an e-mail and asked her that very question. I was hoping there would be something more current on her website. I would strongly recommend her book..."Beyond Amalgams".

That's when I decided to hang out until more was learned.......I had meticulous extraction of all my teeth save 12 in front total (top & bottom). Latter that year (92) we went back and did surgery again on all four quadrants due to lingering discomfort...pain might be too strong a word.

I have never had partials at all due to the lingering doubts etc due to the cavitation problem. This year I felt I was finally well enough (lyme wise and in continued treatment) to face this dilemma of partials. That meant revisiting the cavitation issue.

Although many bio dental professionals are still advocating oral surgery in every case of cavitations......others are beginning to scratch their heads!!! They are now beginning to think that they don't even know the true cause nor do they really know what to do about them if anything.

To quote aliyalex:
"Dr K said he helped 80% of his patience. That is pretty good. The meds my neurologist that cost the insurance cos $1200 per month only have a 40% efficacy."

I have heard lots of claims of "cures & improvements" by doing amalgam removal and a few for cavitation surgery. I have also seen & heard of many patients who did NOT improve!!!! Where's the science? Anecdotal stuff is only good to a point!!

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT discounting the seriousness of these issues: root canals, mercury and cavitiations!! Never!! I believe these are major health issues.

I am one who did NOT improve after amalgam removal, removing root canals and cavitation surgery. Would I do it again?? Yes, I would remove the amalgams but slowly. Yes, I would still remove all root canaled teeth. Cavitations.....well, I'm glad I held off from doing a third surgery. I have already spent untold thousands of dollars and now to get the partials and needed crowns done, I'm looking at the price of another new car!!!!

I wonder what other pieces will come together for the total puzzle in the future?! Some of the known players are hypercoagulation, lyme and others. Who knows?

I was not dx with lyme until 9-99 after many many years of looking for solutions to my health dilemmas in all the wrong places, some of which I was sure would be the answer. One of those I was sure would be the answer was traveling 1200 miles one way to the Huggins Clinic for the total "deal" and amalgam removal (a two week or so commitment).

Yikes, sorry this got so long. I'll be glad to tell more of my story if you think it may be useful.

Healing thoughts.....lightfoot

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Are you better?

How is your Lyme now?

I have chronic Lyme (found out in September) and am only doing IV C with Glutathione until after I remove my two root canaled teeth and clean out wisdom teeth sockets. I will then proceed to a yet undecided antibiotic regimen.

Curious if you still feel the Lyme.

Thanks!

I had 10 amalgams out 3 weeks ago in three sessions and am still feeling it, but will survive. There are moments of extreme brain fog.

My Lyme tests were all negative except for an indeterminate test from stonybrook and an equivocal IGG and negative IGM from Igenex with some positive bands.

I also have HHV-6, CMV, and Candida positive IGA, IGG.

I don't know if it's the viruses or Lyme thats getting me down.

I have some symptoms dating back 10 yrs (heart arrythmmias and chest pain episodes, panic attacks).

But when I think about it I had anxiety in my early teens, so who knows!

I have some strange episodes of SOB (more like suffocation feeling) and night sweats and break out small lesions in between my breasts. Could be Babs?

My PCR's from MDL were all neg for co-infections as were other labs.

Did you treat co-infections first?

I will fly to LA, CA in three weeks to have surgery on my root canaled teeth and clean the wisdom teeth sites. I hope I am ready for the trip and the surgery. Hussar recommended the surgeon and I have friends in LA, that's why I'm going there.

Did the surgery put you down for a long time?

My Dr. is having me show up a week early so he can really check me out first. I probably will stay for three weeks.

I think I will do the new Immunoscience test (immunoserology of Lyme or Panel A) that they talked about at the recent Lyme conference. Can't do that one in NY state.

My LLMD in Rhinebeck, NY wants me to do IV Rocephin, but I am going to wait until after the surgery to think about that. I heard people do well with IM Bicillin, but don't know whether that can pull it out of the Neuro system.

I heard there is such a relapse problem with Rocephin and complications with the gallbladder.

Thanks for your input.

Kulacz and Hussar said he was good, but now I'm a little worried because I did a search on him and one of the biological dentist sites said FRAUD ALERT below his name.

Do you know of him?

I have the list in a pdf file. Email me if you want a copy.

I've heard of him...think it wasn't such good stuff. My suggestion: go over to delphi forums, there's an osteomyelitis of the jaw group. They have lots of info on this topic and lots of opinions of Docs who do debridement surgery.

I just had surgery done in Jan by an OS in Milipitas, Ca. The jury is still out on my results.

I think there is a Dr. Pana in LA that was recommended by Jerry Bouquet...the expert on this jaw disease. There's also a good surgeon in San Diego...Dr. Berger.

Good Luck.

Yes it can be expensive. No I'm not a fan of root canals either but I was referred to someone in my area by Chris Hussar and he wanted to charge me $20,000.

Sorry folks I don't have that kind of money right now and this dentist said that some patients got better others didn't.

He also said anytime you have dental work and they give you long acting anesthesia it can cause problems with cavitats and apparently that's what I have going on with me according to him.

I've never had wisdom teeth but he states they need to be surgically cleaned out and many other teeth that have fillings he wants to extract.

Again, My opinion is it's not a for sure thing and for me $20,000. is a lot of money for a big maybe.

I would not spend my money on another one.

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I will look into that.

I heard Pana is good and goes to all the conferences.

I spoke with the Dr. in Washington, DC today and they beleive it is better to detox from the Mercury first and then have surgery. Too much toxins at once.

I just had 10 amalgams taken out 3 weeks ago.

They will check me out next week and do ART testing to see what my next move is.

We have less than a handful of superb people who perform this work. Don't be surprised if you won't have a single one to go to tomorrow. If I were the doctor and read your comments here, you would not be treated in my practice. You can bet on that.

There is no doubt that an infected mouth and jawbone needs to be treated if you ever want to get rid of all the infections, not only Lyme, but all others that have taken up residence there. Mercaptans and thioethers are the worst brain toxins ever and as long as these toxins are produced by root canals and in your body readily moving up into the brain, getting well remains a pipe dream.

I am very well, but would not be alive without having done extensive work in my mouth. I am very happy also that my husband was able to leave his wheelchair following (after seven month) the dental work. We are both very well.

The treatment needs to be followed by extensive detoxing of the thioethers and mercaptans supervised by a physician who understands the stuff. Many of our doctor's patients use the KMT 22 on a regular basis for an hour here and there or while sleeping (or in the tub) to eradicate every last bit of infection, regenerate tissue and use the microbial inhibitory frequencies to not let any daring bacteria/virus/parasite, etc. get the upper hand ever again. It is too involved here to go into the device. If you want to know more, e-mail me for person to call.
I consider it my weekly facial and love it. started to live again once I had my teeth removed.

In my case, it was all teeth and all the mushy bone around it. How else can you remove life-destroying root canals tied to bridges and other dental work.
I am so happy with a wonderful set of dentures. They look great and need no fillings and chew everthing from apples to almonds - better than I ever could before.

That does not mean that one needs to go that far. But for me it was the best choice
Twelve root canals was just one too many.

If you are in doubt about the health of your root canals, have the TOPAS test done. Have it done properly. The tooth has to be agitated, tapped, irritated a few minutes before the test. If the test is not performed properly, you will not get a true answer.

As long as heavy metals are disrupting your hormone producting glands, not much will work well in your body. Age and lifestyle has a lot to do with it.

So kinldy, mentioning a doctor's name is a taboo - unless you have his/her permission

Take care.

Won't happen again.

All of us are ust trying to get well.