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I have read Gigi's post about Dr. K's conf. in San Francisco.

Did anyone else from the board attend? The KMT22 sounds too good to be true. I would like some more info about it from other people who are using it.

Does anyone else that posts here have a KMT22? If so, what are your experiences with it?

I am interested in investing in a Rife or KMT22 to enhance my recovery with antibiotics from lyme but I just don't know enough about them to make an intelligent decision. GiGi is the only person I have talked to about the KMT22. I have read a lot on Bryan's site about the Rife machines - still don't know which one is the best.

Thanks to anyone who attended that conf. or has any input about the KMT22.


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I was at the conference. Dr. Klinghardt was only one of a number of speakers over two days. I have also been listening with interest, but just don't hear much about the KM22, beyond what Klinghardt himself says, and Gigi, on this board.

None of the other doctors spoke about frequency devices, although they are using a wide variety of other alternative treatments.

I would love to hear more from other people using his little machine. Maybe Gigi could ask some of those she knows to give us some feedback.

I will bring out one point Klinghardt mentioned, that I don't believe is in his article that Gigi posted.

Klinghardt said that he sees that people do not get well on herbs alone. He has found they need either a combination of herbs and antibiotics, or herbs and a frequency device. Seems what he is saying is that you really have to include some treatment that actually kills the bacteria.

He also mentioned that for new doctors just learning to treat Lyme, they couldn't go wrong by studying and using Joe Burrascanno's treatment recommendations. Only as a practitioner learned more about Lyme would they be able to branch out with some of the more alternative ways of treating.

It makes sense. Until someone really understands how Lyme causes trouble in the body, they won't know what is likely to be an effective approach to treatment.

Sorry, not a real answer to your question, but the best I can do.

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I was very lucky to have a great LLMD who got things moving toward a cure. From him I got a variety of anti-biotic and anti-yeast prescriptions.

He also gave me his full support of my treatment by my "other" doctor, who used a whole boatload of different protocols on me- herbs,supplements, physical manipulation, AND electronic frequency aparatus.

I mention this here because this doctor has studied with Dr K.

He is in Houston and I can share his name with any one who contacts me.

(over 2 years since last ABX and I'm going trekking in the Himalayas for my 50th birthday next month)


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Riversinger and Houston Lyme Pie - thanks so much for your helpful responses.

Anyone else have any input about the KMT22 or Rife machines?


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Here are more of my notes on the KMT (Klinghardt Matrix Therapy).

The KMT is a series of FDA approved instruments used for pain control. I used these devices already a number of years ago.
For those who do not know me, please know that I am well and very cured for several years now from a horrific Lyme infection and major dental infections, which made me totally dysfunctional, semi-paralyzed and held me in a severe brainfog for a long time
(until I met my doctor).

My husband is also beating all records when it comes to an 80-year old who at one time got only around in a wheelchair, walker sometimes, and by my pulling him on the floor from one room to the other in the house. This is all in the past and we attribute part of our well being to KMT.

Our doctor developed an off-label instrument applying this sophisticated technology to patients with neurological and neurodegenerative disorders, including Borrelia and co-infections that most of you are familiar with, but also the many other infections which many Lyme sufferers carry (often unknown). An incomplete list of pathogens/conditions programmed in the KMT22 is attached. I had not heard of many of them (bacteria, viruses, parasites, retroviruses, fungi, mold, etc.). I knew that I tested positive with ART for many of them and that I had to be treated to eliminate the overgrowth before they were going to take me over completely.

Superimposed on the pain-relieving frequencies are the so-called "microbial inhibition frequencies', which are proprietary harmonious frequency patterns published and obtained from a wide variety of scientific papers and resources.

The frequencies of the KMT are different from the commonly used Rife frequencies in the EM or B3 or other devices.

The energy delivery is very different from all other Rife instruments.

Microcurrent is gentle and non-invasive. The application does not result in killing, but has a rather wide variety of other effects: The current entrains the immune system to recognize the pathogens. The pathogens are inhibited in their metabolic and reproductive activity.
They will quit having babies!!!!!!!!!

The selected wave lengths increase the medication uptake in the body area where the targeted microbes actually live, not in other unrelated areas.

The instrument also uses pulsed subfrequencies that trigger a specific pathogen and toxic-metal related neurotoxin release. Like any other TENS unit it also modulates the neurotransmitters and creates vasodilation and lymph drainage.

The KMT22 is part of a frequent regimen in our house. Our kids come to borrow it when the flu hits or they sprain an ankle. It is our ready weapon when the mosquito season comes around; though we only have a few, we will not take a chance at taking on any new toxins transmitted by any of these critters
(which is strongly suspected). Our KMT serves as prophylactic and general maintenance and promotion of health.

To me, this device is the best thing that I have encountered during my years of battle.
There are I am sure a few more yet unknown beneficial effects and I will let you know as I keep track of things. Most Klinghardt patients use the instruments.

I have heard that the multiple chemical sensitive people use it successfully. Some use it while soaking in the tub.

Since I am in my 70's when it seems the whole world starts to declare most of us as "demented", I am often using the instrument just in an effort to keep out the cobwebs. I used the Brain Clarity Channel
(#4 of the four channels) the other night while asleep - it runs about 5 hours. When I awoke in the morning, I was able for the first time in the last fifty years to read my wallclock ten feet away without first putting on my glasses!

The little gadget runs (it seems forever) on a 9V battery and thus avoiding any electromagnetic frequency exposure which is detrimental to many Lyme sufferers. The size of the KMT22 is 5.5 x 3.5 x 2 inches.
Dr. K. has treated chronic disease for many years and knows the underlying infections, involved in many diseases, etc. only too well, and has also figured out that unless all are treated, health will not return. All of these pathogens are included in the instrument.

The KMT is always "ready" to be put into action -- when these desperate moments happen where we ask "how much longer" and whine"another few weeks before I can see a doctor again"? Do channels #1, 2, 3, &4, one a day; take a couple of days off and start with #1 again.

It helped us reach our goal - a normal good day every day.

Take care.

If you want to know more, e-mail me or call Nancy at 541-488-6770. She knows the different machines very well.


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To GiGi - thanks for the info. I looked everywhere and could not find info on this. I'm wondering approx. what the machine costs. I just ordered a b4000 rife machine. I wonder if I could use both. Did this machine make you herx? What other types of treatments did you do?

TO RIVERSINGER, can you point me in the direction of Joe Burrascanno's treatment recommendations? Where would I find this? Also, I am wondering what type of alternative treatments folks were discussing at this conference. Would you mind sharing what you heard, or do you have a resource for me to read?


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quote:
Originally posted by Angie:

TO RIVERSINGER, can you point me in the direction of Joe Burrascanno's treatment recommendations?


Angie, here is the link for Dr. Burrascanno's treatment recommendations.

Dr. Joseph J. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines
Dr. Burrascano's 2004 Recommendations

This is some of the best info you will find on antibiotic treatment protocols for Lyme and co-infections.

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Also, I am wondering what type of alternative treatments folks were discussing at this conference. Would you mind sharing what you heard, or do you have a resource for me to read?

I've been intending to share since the conference, but have been so busy I haven't had time to organize my notes sufficiently.

Audio CD's of the conference are available. I'll see if I get get some comments pulled together soon, as there was some very good information on both alternative and antibiotic treatments.

Silver hydrosol, Taurox, and Samento were some of the alternatives discussed, in addition to what Dr. Klinghardt mentioned. Treating multiple infections, and clearing issues like mold, heavy metals, viruses and other compounding factors where emphasized.

I'll do my best to get at least some of this in order ASAP.

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Gigi,

You mention that the KMT uses technology deisgned for pain control. Does the KMT actually help with pain, and does the effect last after using it? Its other benefits sound great, I'm just wondering if you can comment on using it for pain. Thanks!


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Gigi,
Thanks for some more great info on the KMT22.

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