just wondering...

my doc doesnt want me eating rice and other starches so i think that eliminates rice milk as an option.

Do you know why your doctor doesn't want you eating grains and starches? If it's to cut out sugars and carbs to prevent yeast, then soy milk is officially a no-no. It's pretty high in sugar, and most brands actually add some type of sugar to make it sweeter.

The stricker the diet the safer you are. So try not to push it. Perhaps start with something very strict for several weeks and slowly add some other products to see what happens. Fungus is not only expensive is also unpleasant.

In general, I try to stay away from artificial sweeteners. Even Splenda is made through a chemical process.

Occaisionally I have green tea or weak black tea. Since quiting coffee I notice the caffeine in tea! When my stomach hurt from the doxy I drank ginger tea (tea bags with shredded ginger) which is available at natural food or asian markets. Ginger is good for reducing nausea.

I do better with goat yogurt than cow yogurt. I can eat some cheese but I limit it and have it in the afternoon far from the tetracycline. Everything I eat including cheese is organic, hormone and antibiotic free and preferably from grass fed free range animals. Got to www.mercola.com to read why this is important.

Personally I don't think splenda or any artificial sweetener is a good idea whether you have Lyme or not.

Since quitting all grains, fruits and sugars I no longer crave sweet things.I also quit coffee since tetracycline has made coffee taste like an undrinkable solvent. Oddly it has made tea taste sweet.

I do not do well with soy products except soy sauce which is OK as long as it is preservative free. Soy issue aside, soy milk has way too much sugar for us Lymies on abx.

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Originally posted by Areneli:
I thought that coffee and tea are not OK due to fermentation processes they got through.
Fermentation involves some types of yeasts.

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If you follow the diet 100%, then coffee and most teas are not allowed. But, many of us pick something to cheat with, because we are human. I also am on very strong muscle relaxers. When I was following a strict diet, I needed that caffeine jolt in the morning to break through the drug daze.

the living soy or nut milk you make will be full of life force, enzymes, protien, important amino acids, and other nutrition. it would blow any store bought milk away in nutritional anaysis alone. also you control the sugar content and what you use to sweeten it so its purely good for you. you might try raw argave syrup, stevia, and other natural sweeteners.

http://notmilk.com/

Many of my dairy-producing adversaries get upset when I
reveal that milk is merely pus with hormones. Ten pounds of
milk are used to make one pound of cheese. Cheese is
concentrated pus.

Jim Dickrell's story in the March, 2001 issue of Dairy Today
asks:

"WHAT IS NORMAL MILK?"

The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has a
milk ordinance governing milk safety. USDA does not allow
milk containing 750 million or more pus cells per liter to
be shipped across state borders. That should be good news
to milk drinkers.

Last year, the average liter of milk in America contained
only 323 million pus cells, according to Hoard's Dairyman,
the dairy industry magazine. Author Jim Dickrell reports
that the level of pus cells has been rising ever since
farmers began using Monsanto's genetically engineered bovine
growth hormone. Before approval (February 1994), the
average pus cell count in milk was under 300 million cells
per liter. By 1996, that average count had reached 307
million. In 1997, the average count was 313 million, and by
1998, the number had reached 318 million.

Researchers working for the National Mastitis Council define
normal and abnormal milk based on the number of pus cells.
According to Dickrell's story, the concentration of pus
cells in "normal milk" is almost always less than 100
million cells per liter.

The number of pus cells in milk is an indicator of the state
of health of the mammary glands and udders in cows.
Stressed and infected cows have cell counts above 100
million. What does that say for the average milk in
America? Not very healthy, even by dairy industry
standards.

According to this article:

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Originally posted by Areneli:
Is Splenda OK?

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On Soy -
http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm

this diet stuff is super confusing because every source of information basically contradicts the other.

i just went to the store and bought following. is this food ok? i bought food based on the diet tips on ILADS website http://www.ilads.org/burrascano_1102.htm#overgrowth)

(everything organic)
-cows milk
-cheese
-chicken
-spinach
-apples
-avocados
-brocolli
-pears
-cucumber
-almonds
-cashews
-low fat plain yogurt
-eggs

i am taking probiotics and vitamin suppliments w/ each meal.

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Originally posted by electric:
is soy milk ok on lyme diet?

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electric, i remember reading in a patient manual, think it was the llmd in houston, that all soy products contain large amounts of manganese and tends to "irritate" the bacteria and its sxs. wish i had more info., but, maybe someone else will respond with case study. ping

Someone posted that soymilk has lots of sugar. That is not necessarily the case. There are 2 brands of unsweetened soymilk that have zero sugar.

You can make almond milk easily in a blender and just add a little alcohol free vanilla for flavor - no sugar needed.

If you need to sweeten things up use stevia. NOW brand is the only one I have found that tastes remotely good.

I can handle goats milk yogurt with 0 sugar. Again, you have to read the labels but there are 2 brands of yogurt that have 0 sugar: Chatham (sheep's milk from Vermont) and Elan (cow's milk from Switzerland).

I have added some unrefined carbs back into my diet because I seem to lack energy without them. I make sure I eat these in the AM so I have time to burn them off before they just sit and turn to sugar.

Good luck.

Whats better.

Spoons full of sugar that feed the bacteria along with a glass of pus and hormones, or

A small amount of chlorinated sugar that out bobies dont process along with some medium quality soy protein isolate that contains a 1 in 6 millions part of hexane.

Our anti-biotics are also nasty poisons that contain several binders and preservatives.

Do the benefits outweigh the risks?
We cant go through life avoiding everything.

Even my LLMD said to me that I should avoid grass trees plants,, basically everything in nature. He seemed very parinoid. He said

"you were bit once so it could happen again"

That to me is like being in a car wreck and then avoiding all cars and roads saying,, well I was in a wreck once,, so it could happen again. So dont every ride in a car.

Low thyroid is a pain~~
the doc put me on regular Synthroid instead of the generics, and I have been feeling a little less stupid, but the db showed my thyroid very low, but the @#$%^& doc hasn't called me back yet! lol! running out of patience here

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