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tickitout
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I was just wondering if anyone has or knows what causes severe shock sensations in ones head. It feels like it goes to the center of my brain.

It feels like my brain is being sizzled. It comes out of nowhere and I can feel my head jolt backwards and my whole body freezes from it. It is very frightening.

I get the shock sesations through my entire body but the head ones are getting worse.

Any input would be great.


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these shocks are a shocker~~
(sorry 'bout that"
I get them now just once in awhile, but when they hot , it's so hard to explain, like the sound of electricity going through my head. Never really hurt, or jerked my body, but every one is so different.

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I use to get that.I related it to the sound of a electrical transformer blowing up but this was inside my head.

We had a horrible ice storm one year and I remember the sound all so well,those things blowing up all night,the lights flickering on and off.

This disease is soo wierd.I would get this at night ,just as I was beginning to go off into dreamland.One big jolt and then I was OK.

It finally stopped but it really freaked me out.


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one word...babesia.

very common with babs...see if you can get treated for it.

Lisa


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Thanks to all who responded.

Lisa, you said to get treated for Babesia.

I was treated for ehrlosis(sp?) and babesia years ago. I think I took Mepron and Doxi.

Don't recall ever being retested for co-infections. I will get a script though.

Have been bitten many times by ticks since that time.

Is labcorp or Quest any good for this? Or would Igenex be more accurate?

What is the correct treatment for this?

One last question, what is happening when this occurs. Does it cause any damage. Feel so wacked out afterwards. It is so scarey. Also have seizures.

Am suppose to go for an MRI anyway. Would this show anything related to this?

Sorry for all the questions just need to know. Thanks to all.


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Aligondo Bruce
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ever taken paxil? have you recently gone off paxil?

read up on tabetic syphillis (tabes dorsalis), granted it's spinal and leg pain, but compare this phenomonon to what you are reporting in your head.


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seizures? what kind? could be bart then....

Lisa


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Hi there -

I, too, have had a history of electrical "shock" type sensations, at various locations throughout my body - among other things.

Because I've recently reported some auditory & nasal hallucinations to my neuro - along with the electrical sensations, and he told me that I had described "temporal lobe seizures".

I asked him if that meant I had epilespy, and he said: "NO" - at least that's what his mouth said, I couldn't figure out what his face was telling me.

FYI: FINALLY dx'd with Babesia. He was going to treat me for that until I told him about my "seizure" symptoms and then he decreased my dose of abx, and I'm on hold (temporarily) for the Babs treatment.

Because of that, I seem to think his opinion is that too much die off - it could create a "storm" of sensations - which could trigger more storms. (that's my interpretation)

I don't know if this helps at all - but just thought I'd validate that electrical
"shocks" don't mean you're nuts - just means you might should consult your LLMD &/or a neurologist.

Blessings,

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ICE PICK HEADACHE

Maybe it is this. I had them for years and they can be real scarey when you have no idea what is happening.
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Although sudden and frightening, they're generally harmless.
These startling head pains have been described in various ways:

...when I began having migraines, I suffered a sudden slash of pain, very intense and quick on the right side of my head. It started at one point and webbed out to what it felt like a inch in length... it scared me.
...intense, sharp, stabbing pain about your skull, as if you were being stabbed with an ice pick.
...awakened at 3 a.m. by excruciating, stabbing pains on the top right front of my head, kind of behind the eye. Lasted about 30 seconds.
They're "ice pick headaches" -- short, stabbing, extremely intense headaches that can be absolutely terrifying. They generally only last between five and 30 seconds. However, they come out of nowhere, can strike anywhere on the head, literally feel as if an ice pick is being stuck into your head, then disappear before you can even figure out what's happening.

The pain can also seem to occur in or behind the ear.
Under the International Headache Society's (IHS) criteria, the name for them is "primary stabbing headache. Other terms that have been used are jabs and jolts, ophthalmodynia, and periodica. Ice pick headaches is probably the most commonly used term because it's the most descriptive. The IHS description reads:


"Transient and localised stabs of pain in the head that occur spontaneously in the absence of organic disease of underlying structures or of the cranial nerves."

The IHS diagnostic criteria:

Head pain occurring as a single stab or a series of stabs and fulfilling criteria B-D

Exclusively or predominantly felt in the distribution of the first division of the trigeminal nerve (orbit, temple and parietal area)

Stabs last for up to a few seconds and recur with irregular frequency ranging from one to many per day

No accompanying symptoms

Not attributed to another disorder

Ice pick headaches are considered a primary headache as there isn't a deeper underlying cause; the headache itself is the problem. Although they may occur independently, they're more likely to occur as part of another primary head pain disorder.1 A secondary headache has another cause such as a tumor, stroke, or something as simple as not eating. These short, sharp headaches can be located anywhere on the head, but they're usually located near the orbit, temple, or parietal region.2

Although people who experience Ice pick headaches are usually those who have Migraine disease, or another head pain disorder, ice pick headaches usually occur by themselves rather than during a Migraine attack or headache. Usually, they occur a few times a day at most. In rare cases, they occur frequently through the day, requiring treatment. The major problem with treatment is that the pain is so brief, if it's not treated until it occurs, it's gone before the patient can take medication. In those cases where it does need treatment, preventive treatment with indomethacin (Indocin) usually works.3

Ice pick headaches occur in up to 40% of Migraineurs, often located in or near the usual location of their Migraines. They can occur at any time of day or even wake people from sleep. Those who do need to use indomethacin for prevention should remember that it is an NSAID and has the potential side effects typically associated with NSAIDs. Those potential side effects include heartburn, nausea, gastroesophageal reflux and bleeding problems, and gastric ulcers. In rare cases, indomethacin can cause eye problems. Thus annual examinations by an ophthalmologist are recommended for anyone taking it on a regular basis.4

In an article published in Current Pain and Headache Reports, Dr. Todd Rozen summarized the situation of people with ice pick headaches quite succinctly:


"The short-lasting headache syndromes are unique based on their short duration of pain and their associated symptoms. Physicians need to be knowledgeable about these syndromes because each has its own distinct treatment and if the diagnosis is missed, the patient can be burdened with extreme headache-related disability."2

If you're experiencing what you think may be ice pick headaches, please don't just assume that's what they are. Log them in your diary, and go see your doctor. As with any other head pain, there are many possible causes. A doctor's diagnosis is vital.
http://headaches.about.com/od/otherheadpain/a/ice_picks.htm


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very important information for you:

one side effect of B12 deficiency is an EEG pattern which appears very similar to that seen in bilateral temporal lobe epilepsy. it is unknown what causes this, but in the case of B12 it is NOT a seizure.

DO NOT LET your doctor diagnose you with TLE just based on an EEG. Especially if you are deficient in B12. If you are an adult over 25, probably 90% of the time IF you have TLE it is due to cerebral mass (such as a brain tumor) or tramautic brain injury. TLE DOES NOT HAPPEN IDIOPATHICALLY IN AN ADULT. Lyme disease has only VERY RARELY been seen to cause TLE.

Once again, DO NOT let your doctor diagnose seizures just based on an EEG. Very dangerous and misleading.

quote:
Originally posted by DR. Wiseass:
Hi there -

I, too, have had a history of electrical "shock" type sensations, at various locations throughout my body - among other things.

Because I've recently reported some auditory & nasal hallucinations to my neuro - along with the electrical sensations, and he told me that I had described "temporal lobe seizures".

I asked him if that meant I had epilespy, and he said: "NO" - at least that's what his mouth said, I couldn't figure out what his face was telling me.

FYI: FINALLY dx'd with Babesia. He was going to treat me for that until I told him about my "seizure" symptoms and then he decreased my dose of abx, and I'm on hold (temporarily) for the Babs treatment.

Because of that, I seem to think his opinion is that too much die off - it could create a "storm" of sensations - which could trigger more storms. (that's my interpretation)

I don't know if this helps at all - but just thought I'd validate that electrical
"shocks" don't mean you're nuts - just means you might should consult your LLMD &/or a neurologist.

Blessings,



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according to the ilads literature, bartonella is known to cause seizures in patients...

how is that explained?

Lisa


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quote:
Originally posted by Aligondo Bruce:
ever taken paxil? have you recently gone off paxil?

read up on tabetic syphillis (tabes dorsalis), granted it's spinal and leg pain, but compare this phenomonon to what you are reporting in your head.


Very interesting...I have never taken paxil.

However I read alittle on tabes dorsalis which is very interesting. All that I read I have and still experience which is very frightening.

You shed more light on things for me. I need to read more when I can comprehend it.

In brief the muscles weakness, shooting pains, severe nerve pain and so on are an everyday occurance. I have days I think I can handle it and others which are truly defeating.

Tomorrow maybe I can do more reading, right now I can't handle anymore.

Just wondering if you sent me that because it is the same family of bacteria.

I think I am just very overwhelmed trying to read all the posts which I can't comprehend tonight.

Tomorrow will be better....be back..Take care and be well.


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