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Paisley
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i have no appetite ever and I am losing too much weight. any suggestions. for appetite stimulants, because I am even having hard time with protein shakes. I never want to eat.

i am also naseaus so it makes it difficult.

Any one else have this probelm?


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quote:
Originally posted by Paisley:
i have no appetite ever and I am losing too much weight. any suggestions. for appetite stimulants, because I am even having hard time with protein shakes. I never want to eat.

i am also naseaus so it makes it difficult.

Any one else have this probelm?


Yah, ever since this whole Lyme thing started I've had no appetite and major weight gain literally of " AIR".Now , my digestive system's cleared up [ uninfected] and my appetite's back and my metabolism is regular. I don't know what the meds did, but I'm real slim now too, lyme gives irregular lipd meatbolism.
Try drinking protein chocolaste shakes, i know it's tough but just force yourself and lie down , rest , so that way you won't throw up.Also , if you eat salads , they take a while to get digested. This way you'll eat less and still have a healthy diet.
ONE more thing: Lemon juice is great. It helps you burn down your meal faster..ARE you constipated ? If so, get some natural laxative herbal teas, they're real great!
Take care!
Lynn xoxo


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I had this big time. Candida and Leaky Gut were the problem. I lost 56 pounds in 3 months. Try things to coat and heal the stomach like L-Glutamine and psyllium. Also try ginger, DGL Licorice and mint tea for the mausea.

My primary put me on Dexepin - a serotnoin uptake med that seems to target the gut. You have lots of neurotrnasmitters in your gut. This may help to increase your appetite.

Bc


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UGH....are you being treated for babesia? I think my worst loss of appetite came when I was on meds for babs.

Can you eat nuts? Leave out the peanuts, though. Nuts will help you maintain some weight.

Are you on antidepressants? I lost alot of weight when I was clinically depressed from Lyme/babs.

Hope this helps.

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Paisley
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Does anyone know why I don't have an appetite. I'm sure some of it is because of all the medications I am on. But I have had these sypmptoms for years and used to be able to force myself to eat.

Now it seems like there is some kind of wierd gag reflex I have as well. And if I eat too much I will throw up.

Lynn,
Do you know how the irrigular lipid metabolism effects appetite?

Beachcomber, the med your primary dr. put you on really helped you increase your appetite? Has your candida/leaky gut improved?

Lyme2,
so sorry to hear about your recent tick attack. hate those little s**ts. What is llmd going to do?

I am not being treated for babs; have one llmd who thinks I have it and one who thinks I don't. I think I do have it. Is loss of appetite connected to it?

Hope you don't relapse. Talk to your angels.

I can not eat anything. I am wasting away. I have been crying since last night because I know that I am getting worse. I have lost too much weight. Less than a size 0. About 90 lbs. I would like that my drs. would be more concerned but they are all overwhelmed. I am getting scared though.

What other options do I have?

Thanks for your suggestions.
paisley


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Hi Paisly

Glad you asked this question because I was wondering if this was something that Lymies dealt with. I at my sickest had no appettite. I was horribly skinny and people thought I had anorexia. My mom even asked me once "Honey, when you look in the mirror, what do you see?" I saw a very skinny person and no I don't have anorexia.

Not only was I not hungry because of nausea, but even when I could eat it seemed like my body was unable to absorb anything.

One thing that really turned my life around was the use of Elavil. I don't know if it is used in treating Lyme at all, but it honestly was a life saver to me. Not only did it stop the pain, but it gave me an appetite.


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quote:
Originally posted by Paisley:
Lyme2,
so sorry to hear about your recent tick attack. hate those little s**ts. What is llmd going to do?

I am not being treated for babs; have one llmd who thinks I have it and one who thinks I don't. I think I do have it. Is loss of appetite connected to it?

paisley


Paisley, I'm on doxy....YUCK. I tried contacting Igenex today to get the tick tested but couldn't get them to answer the phone. Guess I'll try again....been gone all day.

YES, appetite loss can be a part of babesia [or lyme]...but I found it more connected to babesia.

Are you taking something like Elavil or trazodone? I wouldn't mess with any of the SSRI's ... go for one of the "older" class of anti-deps.

You need to get on meds for babs ASAP....is it OK for me to INSIST!? and TELL you what to do!!?? Your life is at stake here....and i care!

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Paisley:

Anorexia is a symptom of Babesiosis. I am not talking about Anorexia Neurvosa (SP?), the type that teenagers have when they think they are too fat. Basic anorexia means starvation and often you cannot control that unless you find the bug or gut problem that is causing it. It is purely physical.

Babs will cause this as will leaky gut - where the lining of your intestines have holes and large food particles can cross into your bloodstream & elsewhere. This will make you feel very nauseas and too sick to eat. Also, Candida can be a cause of anorexia.

Someone mentioned Elavil. Like Doxepin, it will help your neurotransmitters to fire properly, which may increase your appetite. Talk to your MD about this. Chances are most MDs will say you are depressed and will prescribe one of the above anyway. It's not always worth arguing that this isn't just in your head. The antidepressants will help at many levels.

Take care.

Bc


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Wow, that's 2 major symptoms for me that seem exclusive to Lyme. No sweating and looking like you have anorexia.

I think since I am doing so well, what I really should do is have my kids who are both sick tested throughly for Lyme. Not sure though knowing if it's Lyme for will really make a difference as treatment seems to be real close to what I have already done. For mysekf it would be out of curiosity and I don't know if I could possibly even get a positive being as far into remission as I am. I already know I have 2 Myco infections and that I will never be cured from these either. Either way I must continue to be watchful for signs of falling back into serious illness again.

You guys have really opened my eyes, thank you.


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quote:
Originally posted by Jellybelly:
Not sure though knowing if it's Lyme for will really make a difference as treatment seems to be real close to what I have already done.

I'm not sure I'm reading this right. Treatment for babs is WAY different from treatment for Lyme.

where's paisley?

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I know I still have tons to learn about this stuff, but did you read my post on heparin ihibiting Babesia growth? According to that study, heparin wiped out the babs. I was on heparin for over 3 years. I don't know if that is why I am doing so well now, 95% normal is amazing!!! How did I get there otherwise?? Everything outwardly says I likely have/had Lyme or Babesia, but I don't outwardly appear to have it now.

So much of what I have read here screams my name, but I am doing so well now with the treatment I have used. If I hadn't lived in the body I did for so many years and have pictures to prove it, I wouldn't believe I was ever really sick. I feel so good, really.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jellybelly:
[b] Not sure though knowing if it's Lyme for will really make a difference as treatment seems to be real close to what I have already done.


I'm not sure I'm reading this right. Treatment for babs is WAY different from treatment for Lyme.

where's paisley?

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A sure cause of nausea and loss of appetite is a toxin loaded liver and kidneys. There are many beneficial remedies to help get the toxins out of the organs that are not pharma drugs, but natural substances that are much easier to tolerate and help your organs clear out the overload. Abx does just that - it kills, but the rest of the load is on the organs. Many symptoms that people refer to as herxheimers are caused by liver and kidney toxicity from the overload of toxins of every kind.

Find a good muscle or ART tester to help you pick the remedies that work best for you. Rentone and Livit 1 come to mind, two great ayurvedics by Ayush Herbs. Renelix is another for kidney.

Take care.

P.S. Betasitosterol (6-9 per day) by Pharmax (Medicine Man in Seattle) or any of the other agents to remove the neurotoxins as listed in the Neurotoxin Elimination Protocol, www.neuraltherapy.com work wonders for nausea, etc. and getting the body to function and above all make you feel better.

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Hi all,
i'm back. had one of those bed marathons. feel like I had the flu but worse. fevers/chills/weak/no appetite/major depression and then today It improved.

thank you so much for ALL of the helpful suggestions ;I have a lot to sift through. do llmd's see so many emaciated patients with walking canes that when we walk through the doors they are not very surprised by the way we look?

I often wonder how something so basic as eating and just even drinking water (which i don't like to do either) can be shut off by the body? the seem so basic for survival.

Hope you all are feeling some health and joy

paisley


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