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noodlydoo
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Hi All,

I have a chance to change jobs and live in a city at altitude. By altitude I mean 5k - 8k thousand feet. I'm a big believer in oxygen therapy, and own a mHBOT chamber. Does anyone live in a high altitude city and is still able to keep lyme in some stage of remission? My thoughts are that a low oxygen environement would let it thrive.

Any thoughts would be appreciative. I currently live in the Northeast, and would be looking at cities probably in Colorado or New Mexico.

Thanks,
Noodlydoo


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janet thomas
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Tough question-don't have a specific answer but here's something-

I traveled to Peru and trekked at high altitude, up to 17,000 ft. Not fun, terrible headaches. But we didn't have enough time to adjust.

The people who live and are born there have higher red blood cell counts than others. I don't want to insult you but just in case -the red blood cells carry oxygen thru the blood to the tissues. So if you have more RBCs then enough oxygen gets to the tissues.

If you move to high altitude your body will adjust by making more RBCs. Takes a few months, I'm not sure. Also don't know if your body can ever adapt the way of someone whose ancestors have lived for hundreds of years at high altitude. Like the descendents of the Incas in the Andes, often living at 10,000 ft.


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Hello,

I live in the wonderful mile high city. At this time, I've improved a lot since starting abx in August 2004. I've lived here 10 years straight so my body is probable used to it.

Previously I've lived in cities at sea level. Janet is right, your body will adjust in time but keep in mind sinus and allergies are big in this part of the country.


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oxygenbabe
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I wouldn't do it. I wept on the plane back from Santa Fe, my home away from home, this summer.

First, your chamber won't work there. It's relative pressure, and at sea level you're getting much more pressure than at altitude. I researched the amoutns because 2 docs in town had portable chambers there and they did zip for me compared to home at sea level. They adjust their hardchambers for the altitude difference but you can't with the softchamber as you know, it only goes to about 1.3 ata.

I had significantly greater muscle weakness, headaches, fatigue and friggin' insomnia there. Its gorgeous and I love it but I realized until I was entirely over lyme I could not hang out there for months at a time like I used to. I spent 16 days there. I don't regret it but I did cry for about an hour on the plane coming home because I realized I could not spend months on writing sabbatical there the way I have in the past.

Even if your hemoglobin adjusts, which it will, that does not mean the relative hypoxia, and LACK OF PRESSURE, won't have deleterious effects. I really think it could. And then could you get your old job back?

I should add though that my hemoglobin must have adjusted enough that when I came home, I felt much better than normal for af ew days, without any hyperbaric to boost me or anything. I drank two glasses of wine at dinner with no problem, and felt stronger. Then back to baseline.

With lyme, its better to live at sea level.

[This message has been edited by oxygenbabe (edited 19 April 2005).]


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lightfoot
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Hi Noodlydoo & greetings from the foothills of the CO Rockies,

If anything, I think I thrive at higher altitudes. I currently live at 6,240 ft.

IMO, knowing how you will be set up for treatment for a potential move is more important. Will your current LLMD work long distance with someone.....and who would that someone be?

How far will you have to travel for treatment?

Good luck......lightfoot

PS I have also lived at sea level (17 years)....lower AL & close to FL as well in the far north at sea level in ND.....humidity does me NO good, the dry high air is a lot better for me!!

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This is a good topic...i am a flight attendant, and spend three or four days a week in a tube where the adjusted altitude is about 7500 feet..(this is the altitiude that the presure systems of a 737 keep the cabin at).. I do notice that sometimes it will "activate" my lyme, causing a flare. The good news is I can nail it with the rife machine when that happens.

On the oposite end of the spectrum, when i spend time with family in Albuquerque (5,500) i feel alot better than when i am in Frederick where it is humid and sea level. Florida is hell for me, to much moisture, heat and barometric pressure.

My body is more thrown off by humidity than altitude. Spent two weeks in NM last summer...sx free the whole time..would love to move there

greg


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TheCrimeOfLyme
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My boyfriend livse in the mountains. Im not sure what the elevation is compared to me, he has told me once but I forgot.

By the time I get UP the mountain, Im a mess for like two days after I come home also. BUT

I have been feeling REALLY GOOD in between,and that is a first.

I think for *ME* its killing crap in my brain.



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timaca
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I live at 7,000 feet.

I had dormant lyme for years in my system, until a steroid shot to my knee "activated" it.

I'm just beginning treatment, so I can't really answer your question. I can say that the clear air, the countryside and mountain atmosphere is healing to the soul...and that is helpful to me.

Good luck....Tina


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oxygenbabe
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It really sounds individual.
But with noodly, he has a portable chamber like me, and it really doesn't work very well there. Sorry to say. I am not mechanical and didn't even realize it would be relative not absolute pressure. So the dive at 7000 or more feet altitude in Santa Fe is about the same as breathing oxygen at sea level in NY.

Noodly, at least spend a few weeks there and see how you feel before you make a major move.

Also, there's a big difference between 5,000 and 8,000.


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I went from Northeast sea level to Colorado 9,000 ft for a vacation in February. I expected the worst but amazingly the altitude affected me less than in previous trips.

After a few days of adjusting I felt better than I had in 7 months and was actually able to ski 4 whole days (summit around 12,000ft.)
A month before I was barely able to lift my skis never mide use them.

After returning to sea level I felt worse.
hatsnscarfs


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dan67
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Any updates on living at altitude? I'm at 6200 feet and considering buying a mild chamber, but it sounds like it might not be useful up here?
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i have a friend who is recovering from lyme and doing well in mts in equador...he had some problems at first but is ok now - more than ok actually...hes doing really good

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